Incredible shrinking cartridges

[Walter R.]

My old HP printer, a deskjet 970, had 41 ml ink cartridges. Very nice.

I was about to buy a HP Officejet 6310, when I noticed that the cartridge
holds only 11 ml, the color cartridge 7 ml. I can't believe this. I thought
office models would have larger cartridges. This is ridiculous!

This speaks very poorly for HP. It looks like a rip-off.

Does anyone known of an HP or Canon AIO that has better ink cartridges than
this??

Thanks

 

[Gel]

The ml capacity of the cartridges is only part of the story, as recent
printers have better pages per ml due to better print model and darker
inks.  The Deskjet 6980 printer uses cartridges that give comparable
prints per cartridge as the Deskjet 970.  In general you can find page
yield information for recent HP models athttp://www.hp.com/go/pageyield

For all-in-one units the HP Officejet Pro series have generally higher
page yields than the lower end consumer models.  See the Officejet Pro
L7500/L7600/L7700/L7800 series printers for examples.  The standard
cartridges have comparable yields to the #45 cartridge from your 970,
while the XL versions of the cartridges have ~ 3X the yield (2450 pages
from the black cartridge, 1700 pages composite from the individual color
cartridges).

As an added benefit of the times the Officejet Pro series printers may
well cost significantly less than you paid for your Deskjet 970 a half
decade ago.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging

Part of printer manufacturers strategy is to ship new models with
small ink cartridges to achieve
a low selling price, but replacements will be normal capacity.

 

[IntergalacticExpandingPanda]

My old HP printer, a deskjet 970, had 41 ml ink cartridges. Very nice.

I was about to buy a HP Officejet 6310, when I noticed that the cartridge
holds only 11 ml, the color cartridge 7 ml. I can't believe this. I thought
office models would have larger cartridges. This is ridiculous!

Keep in mind that you need to look at the page yield above raw
volume. HP has actually gotten MUCH better about getting more yield
per volume than Canon.

http://h10060.www1.hp.com/pageyield/us/en/OJ6300/index.html

HP 98 Black Inkjet Print Cartridge 420 standard pages $23.99 5.7c/
page

5.7c/page is on the high side of things.

http://h10060.www1.hp.com/pageyield/us/en/PSD5400/index.html

HP 564XL Black Ink Cartridge 800 standard pages
$22.99 2.8c/page

As Bob Headrick suggests the OfficeJet Pro series are actually more
geared for high volume users, as in larger volume & yield cartridges
at a lower price per page. I describe them as double the price but
triple the yield.

http://h10060.www1.hp.com/pageyield/us/en/cartridges/28-564XL.html

http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/s...&aoid=20715&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=CC335A#ABA

It looks like you can get the HP Officejet 6310 for $80 from
amazon.com.
The HP Photosmart Premium Fax All-in-One Printer CC335a is $255 from
the same source.
Difference of $175

For black it looks like it costs about $72.50 extra per 250 pages over
the CC335a. You'd make back the difference after about 6000 pages on
this model.

The Officejet pro L7500 costs $200 from amazon.com. The #88 black is
$35 with an estimated page yield of 2450 or 1.4c/page. Price
difference of $120 over the 6310 but you'd save $107.50 per 2500 pages
and would break even at about 3000 pages or so.

I'm not making a recommendation here, only pointing out the raw
prices. As a good rule of thumb if you find a unit for a very low
price the cost to operate could be high.











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5.7c
2.8c

 

[measekite]

The ml capacity of the cartridges is only part of the story, as recent
printers have better pages per ml due to better print model and darker
inks. The Deskjet 6980 printer uses cartridges that give comparable
prints per cartridge as the Deskjet 970. In general you can find page
yield information for recent HP models at http://www.hp.com/go/pageyield

And all of this corporate jargon is coming from a retired HP Employee that
really knows how to sing the party line.

 

[IntergalacticExpandingPanda]

And all of this corporate jargon is coming from a retired HP Employee that
really knows how to sing the party line.

What's the party line?

Pay attention to the page yields.
Officejet Pro printers cost as much or less than consumer models
bought in 2000?
Current models offer better ml/page than older models (#45).

Could be a conspiracy but it's also true.

 

[Joel]

I don't believe it.