includes, design view, preview view

[rocky]

I have developed a web site using asp, includes, html and
a sql database and when the website is published, the
layout looks the way it should and the site functions the
way it should. I have handed the completed site off to
the client. The person whose responsiblility it now is to
maintain the site on the client end has no web
development experience and is freaked out by the fact
that the pages that have vb code and the asp includes do
not show up in the design view or preview the way they do
in the browser. That is to say the layout looks as though
it is broken in design view (content area shrinks, and
includes aren't visible) or preview, which is fine for me.

However, the person who is now maintaining the site seems
to be of the opinion that he can't trustfully add more
content without seeing in design view the site the way it
appears in the browsers. Has anyone else experienced this
issue and if so, how did you correct it or get around it?

Thank you in advance,
Rocky T.
Limelight Technologies

 

[Jim Buyens]

Move the variable content into a database or content
management system, and let the client update that data
source.

Be sure to quote a nice price for this work.

If that doesn't solve the problem, try the product
described at http://www.stoli.com.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
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[Guest]

Are you telling me you don't really have a solution, and
that I should just get drunk on vodka?

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Any code that requires execution on the server, will not appear in FP in
Normal/Design view. It can only be seen when executed from the server in a
browser. In HTML/Code view you will see the code.

That is why it best to trying and separate your code from HTML, so that FP
can display the HTML.

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[Jon]

A situation like this would better be handled by Jack Daniels Have you
been paid you for your work to date?
Yes - Tell your client you've met the business requirements he gave you, if
he needs content to be added by non web-savvy people he would need a content
management system which you could do for x $/£ etc
No - Explain that FP will not render asp includes in design view but they
will render perfectly fine on the web. You might need to educate whoevers
going to be responsible for the site. Firstly about asp includes not
rendering and secondly that he can trustfully add content to his site - he
just needs to preview it in his browser to see how it wil look

Jon
Microsoft MVP - FP

 

[Jim Buyens]

Are you telling me you don't really have a solution, and
that I should just get drunk on vodka?

No. That was a joke.

The world is slowly moving away from "flat" Web pages, and toward
programmed content. Instead of creating 1000 Web pages, you create one
Web page and a thousand database records. But no editor can display
programmed content in 100% WYSIWYG fashion, as your client is
demanding. The reason is that the programming doesn't run inside the
editor, and even if it did, the programming presumably produces
different output under different conditions. So what should the editor
display?

If your client isn't on to this, then your choices are:

o Explain things to them, and talk them into it.
o Provide some other way of editing the content.
o Offer to return their money and destroy the Web site.
(This is lose-lose, but maybe they won't like it either.)
o Make sure the check's cleared and then split.
(Not really my choice but it happens.)

Personally, I like the second choice, because I don't like exposing
the ASP code where the client can do bad things to it. I like systems
that end users can't destroy. But I realize it may be late in the game
for that.

And please, enjoy your favorite, refreshing soft drink.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
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|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
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[Guest]

Thank you. You were right! The Jack Daniels did the trick.
Yes, paid for this phase of the project. Content
management system, good idea. I think he just may go for
it.

Thanks Guys!