Image processing software

[Phred]

FWIW here's a quote from the latest Tudogs Finds newsletter (19 05):
<quoting>
2. Paint.Net
Students at Washington State University in co-operation with
Microsoft have been working on an upgrade to MS Paint. They
call it Paint.Net. The program offered free is seen to be of
the same level of expertise as the major image editors such as
Paintshop Pro and Adobe PhotoShop. Paint.Net features layering,
without which you cannot do professional graphics. Paint.Net is
basically image and photo manipulation software designed to be
used on computers that run on Windows XP or 2000. Fully equipped
with all the necessary tools and functionality, also with
accessible source code, this is the prefect free application to
substitute for all the expensive commercial image editing
programs. Windows XP or 2000. 7.71MB. Freeware. Found at:
http://www.tudogs.com/graphic_software3.php
</quoting>

I suggest approaching with caution. I haven't tried it, but I have
noticed that Tudogs tends to take a pretty optimistic attitude to
software they "review". (This one got five "dogs".)

The direct link to the site is:
<http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/>
from which much of the above quote seems to have been "stolen".
A bit more info, also stolen from that site. ;-)
<quoting>
Latest News
The fourth and last beta of Paint.NET v2.1 is now available. It
includes more bug fixes over Betas 1 through 3.
We are feature and code complete now, and the main difference between
Beta 4 and the Final release will be updated documentation.

Please note that the date for the final release of Paint.NET v2.1 has
been pushed back from April 15th to April 30th.
</quoting>

A developer blog (Rick Brewster's) is at:
<http://blogs.msdn.com/rickbrew/default.aspx>
where you'll find a bit more detail and future plans.

Links to some reviews (which I haven't read yet) are at:
<http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/reviews.htm>

You'll find the License [sic] details at:
<http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/download.htm>
along with a few SysReq notes and various versions.

Cheers, Phred.

 

[RoseW]

FWIW here's a quote from the latest Tudogs Finds newsletter (19 05):
<quoting>
2. Paint.Net
Students at Washington State University in co-operation with
Microsoft have been working on an upgrade to MS Paint. They
call it Paint.Net.
I suggest approaching with caution. I haven't tried it, but I have
noticed that Tudogs tends to take a pretty optimistic attitude to
software they "review". (This one got five "dogs".)

The direct link to the site is: http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/

Latest News
The fourth and last beta of Paint.NET v2.1 is now available.>>
A developer blog (Rick Brewster's) is at:
http://blogs.msdn.com/rickbrew/default.aspx
where you'll find a bit more detail and future plans.

Links to some reviews (which I haven't read yet) are at:
http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/reviews.htm

You'll find the License [sic] details at:
http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/download.htm along with a few SysReq
notes and various versions.

Cheers, Phred.

_____________________
I had a look at the software Paint.Net and it is a major improvement over
the inhouse MS Paint.

REQUIREMENT: Net Framework 1.1 (major download from MS)

All worked well BUT the 1.1 install could not live with my 'no password log
in' (single user)on Xp Home Sp2(etc) A variety of 'work arounds' didn't work
and after one day the machine wouldn't start up at all because Net 1.1
couldn't resolve the password situation.
Uninstalled Net1.1 and that didn't resolve or adjust that start up
configuration so for the first time in 3 years a restore point was used
WHICH WORKED and I was back to normal.

MS Paint is a very nice feature packed software but I'm not recommending it
to friends as an image software due to the need of Net 1.1 and until I
figure out how to get around the conflict with 'no password thing' I'm
avoiding Net 1.1

RoseW

 

[Phred]

Thanks for the feedback, and the warning about Net Framework 1.1.
Pretty curious problem by the sound of it, or doesn't anyone else use
"no password login" on XP Home SP2? Might have thought MS would have
spotted that issue!

FWIW here's a quote from the latest Tudogs Finds newsletter (19 05):
<quoting>
2. Paint.Net
Students at Washington State University in co-operation with
Microsoft have been working on an upgrade to MS Paint. They
call it Paint.Net.
I suggest approaching with caution. I haven't tried it, but I have
noticed that Tudogs tends to take a pretty optimistic attitude to
software they "review". (This one got five "dogs".)
The direct link to the site is: http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/
Latest News
The fourth and last beta of Paint.NET v2.1 is now available.>>
A developer blog (Rick Brewster's) is at:
http://blogs.msdn.com/rickbrew/default.aspx
where you'll find a bit more detail and future plans.

Links to some reviews (which I haven't read yet) are at:
http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/reviews.htm

You'll find the License [sic] details at:
http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/download.htm along with a few SysReq
notes and various versions.

_____________________
I had a look at the software Paint.Net and it is a major improvement over
the inhouse MS Paint.

REQUIREMENT: Net Framework 1.1 (major download from MS)

All worked well BUT the 1.1 install could not live with my 'no password log
in' (single user)on Xp Home Sp2(etc) A variety of 'work arounds' didn't work
and after one day the machine wouldn't start up at all because Net 1.1
couldn't resolve the password situation.
Uninstalled Net1.1 and that didn't resolve or adjust that start up
configuration so for the first time in 3 years a restore point was used
WHICH WORKED and I was back to normal.

MS Paint is a very nice feature packed software but I'm not recommending it
to friends as an image software due to the need of Net 1.1 and until I
figure out how to get around the conflict with 'no password thing' I'm
avoiding Net 1.1

Cheers, Phred.

 

[Rod Speed]

Thanks for the feedback, and the warning about Net Framework 1.1.
Pretty curious problem by the sound of it, or doesn't anyone else use
"no password login" on XP Home SP2?

I do.

Might have thought MS would have spotted that issue!

Presumably they dont care.

FWIW here's a quote from the latest Tudogs Finds newsletter (19 05):
<quoting>
2. Paint.Net
Students at Washington State University in co-operation with
Microsoft have been working on an upgrade to MS Paint. They
call it Paint.Net.
I suggest approaching with caution. I haven't tried it, but I have
noticed that Tudogs tends to take a pretty optimistic attitude to
software they "review". (This one got five "dogs".)
The direct link to the site is: http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/
Latest News
The fourth and last beta of Paint.NET v2.1 is now available.>>
A developer blog (Rick Brewster's) is at:
http://blogs.msdn.com/rickbrew/default.aspx
where you'll find a bit more detail and future plans.

Links to some reviews (which I haven't read yet) are at:
http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/reviews.htm

You'll find the License [sic] details at:
http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/download.htm along with a few SysReq
notes and various versions.

_____________________
I had a look at the software Paint.Net and it is a major improvement over
the inhouse MS Paint.

REQUIREMENT: Net Framework 1.1 (major download from MS)

All worked well BUT the 1.1 install could not live with my 'no password log
in' (single user)on Xp Home Sp2(etc) A variety of 'work arounds' didn't work
and after one day the machine wouldn't start up at all because Net 1.1
couldn't resolve the password situation.
Uninstalled Net1.1 and that didn't resolve or adjust that start up
configuration so for the first time in 3 years a restore point was used
WHICH WORKED and I was back to normal.

MS Paint is a very nice feature packed software but I'm not recommending it
to friends as an image software due to the need of Net 1.1 and until I
figure out how to get around the conflict with 'no password thing' I'm
avoiding Net 1.1

Cheers, Phred.

 

[jollyrodgers]

when I installed Ghost 9 it prompted me to install Net Framework 1.1 before
it would run now I have to click on user name to login, Havent looked to see
if I can change that yet..

I do.

Might have thought MS would have spotted that issue!

Presumably they dont care.

Phred wrote:
FWIW here's a quote from the latest Tudogs Finds newsletter (19 05):
<quoting>
2. Paint.Net
Students at Washington State University in co-operation with
Microsoft have been working on an upgrade to MS Paint. They
call it Paint.Net.
I suggest approaching with caution. I haven't tried it, but I have
noticed that Tudogs tends to take a pretty optimistic attitude to
software they "review". (This one got five "dogs".)
The direct link to the site is: http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/
Latest News
The fourth and last beta of Paint.NET v2.1 is now available.>>
A developer blog (Rick Brewster's) is at:
http://blogs.msdn.com/rickbrew/default.aspx
where you'll find a bit more detail and future plans.

Links to some reviews (which I haven't read yet) are at:
http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/reviews.htm

You'll find the License [sic] details at:
http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/download.htm along with a few SysReq
notes and various versions.
_____________________
I had a look at the software Paint.Net and it is a major improvement over
the inhouse MS Paint.

REQUIREMENT: Net Framework 1.1 (major download from MS)

All worked well BUT the 1.1 install could not live with my 'no password
log
in' (single user)on Xp Home Sp2(etc) A variety of 'work arounds' didn't
work
and after one day the machine wouldn't start up at all because Net 1.1
couldn't resolve the password situation.
Uninstalled Net1.1 and that didn't resolve or adjust that start up
configuration so for the first time in 3 years a restore point was used
WHICH WORKED and I was back to normal.

MS Paint is a very nice feature packed software but I'm not recommending
it
to friends as an image software due to the need of Net 1.1 and until I
figure out how to get around the conflict with 'no password thing' I'm
avoiding Net 1.1

Cheers, Phred.

 

[Al Smith]

when I installed Ghost 9 it prompted me to install Net Framework 1.1 before

it would run now I have to click on user name to login, Havent looked to see
if I can change that yet..

I had to do that also, for Drive Image 7 (which is basically the
same as Ghost 9), but I do not need to click on a user name.

 

[Colin]

Same problem here after Ghost - easy fix.

I just disabled the accounts that NET created and I'm back to no-password.

Maybe it does stuff in the background but you don't need to have the acc't
active for the apps to run

Colin

when I installed Ghost 9 it prompted me to install Net Framework 1.1
before it would run now I have to click on user name to login, Havent
looked to see if I can change that yet..

I do.

Might have thought MS would have spotted that issue!

Presumably they dont care.

FWIW here's a quote from the latest Tudogs Finds newsletter (19 05):
<quoting>
2. Paint.Net
Students at Washington State University in co-operation with
Microsoft have been working on an upgrade to MS Paint. They
call it Paint.Net.
I suggest approaching with caution. I haven't tried it, but I have
noticed that Tudogs tends to take a pretty optimistic attitude to
software they "review". (This one got five "dogs".)
The direct link to the site is: http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/
Latest News
The fourth and last beta of Paint.NET v2.1 is now available.>>
A developer blog (Rick Brewster's) is at:
http://blogs.msdn.com/rickbrew/default.aspx
where you'll find a bit more detail and future plans.

Links to some reviews (which I haven't read yet) are at:
http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/reviews.htm

You'll find the License [sic] details at:
http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/download.htm along with a few
SysReq
notes and various versions.
_____________________
I had a look at the software Paint.Net and it is a major improvement
over
the inhouse MS Paint.

REQUIREMENT: Net Framework 1.1 (major download from MS)

All worked well BUT the 1.1 install could not live with my 'no password
log
in' (single user)on Xp Home Sp2(etc) A variety of 'work arounds' didn't
work
and after one day the machine wouldn't start up at all because Net 1.1
couldn't resolve the password situation.
Uninstalled Net1.1 and that didn't resolve or adjust that start up
configuration so for the first time in 3 years a restore point was used
WHICH WORKED and I was back to normal.

MS Paint is a very nice feature packed software but I'm not recommending
it
to friends as an image software due to the need of Net 1.1 and until I
figure out how to get around the conflict with 'no password thing' I'm
avoiding Net 1.1

Cheers, Phred.

 

[Rod Speed]

when I installed Ghost 9 it prompted me to install Net Framework 1.1 before it
would run

I did on one system, not on the others.

now I have to click on user name to login,

I dont on any system.

And I've never actually used Net Framework myself,
just let Ghost install it when it wanted to do that.

Havent looked to see if I can change that yet..

I do.
Presumably they dont care.

FWIW here's a quote from the latest Tudogs Finds newsletter (19 05):
<quoting>
2. Paint.Net
Students at Washington State University in co-operation with
Microsoft have been working on an upgrade to MS Paint. They
call it Paint.Net.
I suggest approaching with caution. I haven't tried it, but I have
noticed that Tudogs tends to take a pretty optimistic attitude to
software they "review". (This one got five "dogs".)
The direct link to the site is: http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/
Latest News
The fourth and last beta of Paint.NET v2.1 is now available.>>
A developer blog (Rick Brewster's) is at:
http://blogs.msdn.com/rickbrew/default.aspx
where you'll find a bit more detail and future plans.

Links to some reviews (which I haven't read yet) are at:
http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/reviews.htm

You'll find the License [sic] details at:
http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/download.htm along with a few SysReq
notes and various versions.
_____________________
I had a look at the software Paint.Net and it is a major improvement over
the inhouse MS Paint.

REQUIREMENT: Net Framework 1.1 (major download from MS)

All worked well BUT the 1.1 install could not live with my 'no password log
in' (single user)on Xp Home Sp2(etc) A variety of 'work arounds' didn't work
and after one day the machine wouldn't start up at all because Net 1.1
couldn't resolve the password situation.
Uninstalled Net1.1 and that didn't resolve or adjust that start up
configuration so for the first time in 3 years a restore point was used
WHICH WORKED and I was back to normal.

MS Paint is a very nice feature packed software but I'm not recommending it
to friends as an image software due to the need of Net 1.1 and until I
figure out how to get around the conflict with 'no password thing' I'm
avoiding Net 1.1

Cheers, Phred.

 

[John]

NET Framework Version 2.0 overcomes the problems .
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...95-717C-4EF7-817B-BDEFD6947019&displaylang=en

If you stay with the early version , the account it adds is called
ASP.NET Machine. It is in User Accounts in Control Panel, and it IS
SAFE to delete.

Log into your normal account, open User Accounts and delete the
ASP.NET Machine account.

Another way .

Start > Run , copy & paste "control userpasswords2" without the quotes
& hit Enter .

Highlight the username you want to autologin and uncheck the box and
hit Apply . You will then be prompted for your password .

 

[David]

I had to do that also, for Drive Image 7 (which is basically the
same as Ghost 9), but I do not need to click on a user name.

Adobe Acrobat 5 had this problem on my home network on Win98SE.

 

[jollyrodgers]

NET Framework Version 2.0 overcomes the problems .
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...95-717C-4EF7-817B-BDEFD6947019&displaylang=en

If you stay with the early version , the account it adds is called
ASP.NET Machine. It is in User Accounts in Control Panel, and it IS
SAFE to delete.

Log into your normal account, open User Accounts and delete the
ASP.NET Machine account.

Another way .

Start > Run , copy & paste "control userpasswords2" without the quotes
& hit Enter .

Highlight the username you want to autologin and uncheck the box and
hit Apply . You will then be prompted for your password .

Already done and no problems and no logon screen.

 

[Michael]

Thanks for the feedback, and the warning about Net Framework 1.1.

I do.


Presumably they dont care.

How ridiculous that a simple Paint program stops your whole PC from working

well done microsoft

 

[REM]

Already done and no problems and no logon screen.

If I'm not mistaken, and I might be, the logon is a part of security
from hackers. Without a logon, if they can get a toe in they are in
all the way.

The recommendations I read said to password the admin account with a
really good password and to use a user account, again with a good
password, for normal internet usage.

Can anyone else confirm this. I bwelieve that I read it on Black
Viper's site, but it's down right now.

 

[Rod Speed]

How ridiculous that a simple Paint program
stops your whole PC from working

It doesnt.

well done microsoft

Pathetically done, Mikey.

 

[David]

If I'm not mistaken, and I might be, the logon is a part of security
from hackers. Without a logon, if they can get a toe in they are in
all the way.

The recommendations I read said to password the admin account with a
really good password and to use a user account, again with a good
password, for normal internet usage.

Can anyone else confirm this. I bwelieve that I read it on Black
Viper's site, but it's down right now.

That is certainly the most secure way to browse. Also do not use the
same password for each account and/or your internet connection.

 

[Helen]

I had to do that also, for Drive Image 7 (which is basically the
same as Ghost 9), but I do not need to click on a user name.

Same here. I have 1.1 and don't have to click on user name to login...but I'm using
sp1.
sp2 messed up my machine. I dumped it, went back to sp1 and things have been A-OK
since.

 

[jollyrodgers]

Same here. I have 1.1 and don't have to click on user name to login...but
I'm using
sp1.
sp2 messed up my machine. I dumped it, went back to sp1 and things have
been A-OK
since.

I have fixed the logon problem by deleting the net1.1 account I am running
XP pro corp with sp2 with no problems at all, I think unless your hardware
is not 100% compatible you should have no trouble with sp2.