I'm new here and . . .

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Charles Kenyon

I'm not asking you to do anything. I'm telling you that if you want to be
effective in using these newsgroups, you will use a newsreader, not the web.

Outlook and Outlook Express both read/send email. That is about all they
share other than the manufacturer (MS) and their name.

Outlook is a Personal Information Manager that includes calendaring,
journaling, email, notes, and a contact list. It interacts with other
programs in the Office Suite. It does not handle newsgroups. It is a
separate program and part of every Office Suite variation. Outlook 97 is
defective and must not be used for email.

Outlook Express comes with Windows and is an OK program. It is a part of
Internet Explorer. The only thing I use it for in as a newsreader. You can
also use the newsreader that is provided by netscape or an independent
newsreader.

Advantage 1 - connects directly with the MS news server via the internet.
The web interface is one or more layers on top of this news server
interface. If you use a web interface you will probably miss answers to your
questions, have some difficulty switching newsgroups, and answer questions
put by other users that have already been answered by others, not realizing
you are duplicating work.

Advantage 2 - it can easily show threaded conversations.

Advantage 3 - for properly posted cross-posts a newsreader will show the
post as read in your inbox for all newsgroups once you've read it in one.
Your reply to a cross-posted message will be sent to all applicable
newsgroups.

Advantage 4 - it works almost exactly like email.

Bottom line - I don't care what you do. Its your dime and your time.
--

Charles Kenyon

See the MVP FAQ: <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/> which is awesome!
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zeldamaniac44 said:
I truely don't see why accessing through a browser presents such a big
problem, and any format will remain foreign to me as long as it's not
linear, as I've said, linear view message boards is what I'm most used to.
Secondly, if you don't mind my asking, what is the difference between Outlook and Outlook Express?

And I'm well aware of my having both programs, it just that I never, ever
use either of them, and if I start now, the thing that troubles me is having
to *learn* how to use it. It took me forever to learn how to use FrontPage
to it's extent.
Maybe now you see my point, you're asking me to use something I never have before.

Anyways, I downloaded the list like you said, from <URL:
Except, I'm not quite certain of how this
subscribing thing works. If I have to subscribe to every *individual*
newsgroup, if I have another question, or desire to access the others does
that mean I have to go through the whole process again, to subscribe to that
newsgroup?
If I understood correctly, and that is the case, is that not a
*disadvantage* as opposed to the web-browser interface where you can easily
switch to other newsgroup, hmm?
Well, if you can, please try to clear those aspects up for me.

But as I continue to try to make a point of, what matters to me is solving
my problem, and as soon as possible I might add, if you don't remember the
problem was launching Word from other locations besides the newly formed
shortcut for WINWORD.EXE, but much more importantly, the fact that I can't
access my Word Documents from any manner except through File | Open in Word
itself. You may retrace the course of this thread a few posts, where I
explain more with more detail.
The reason resolving the problem is so important to me is because I use my
PC as an office tool, you see, I have my a business where I run my office
from home.
Also, try to remember that was the topic I tried to make from the start
(to solve my problem) and improving my expirience here is slightly
off-topic, however, thank you, because I appreciate the help nonetheless.
 
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Dayo Mitchell

zeldamaniac44 said:
I truely don't see why accessing through a browser presents such a big
problem, and any format will remain foreign to me as long as it's not linear,
as I've said, linear view message boards is what I'm most used to.
Not quite sure exactly what linear view message boards are like, but you can
set Outlook Express to show unthreaded and in chronological order of
posting, I believe.

But as I continue to try to make a point of, what matters to me is solving my
problem, and as soon as possible I might add, if you don't remember the
problem was launching Word from other locations besides the newly formed
shortcut for WINWORD.EXE, but much more importantly, the fact that I can't
access my Word Documents from any manner except through File | Open in Word
itself. You may retrace the course of this thread a few posts, where I
explain more with more detail.
Did you try the re-register Word suggestion that you got a while back?

Also, try to remember that was the topic I tried to make from the start (to
solve my problem) and improving my expirience here is slightly off-topic,
however, thank you, because I appreciate the help nonetheless.
In fact, if you review your first post and the subject line, this is all
totally on topic... :) if somewhat outside the purview of the ng in
general.

DM
 
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Guest

I understood effectively where you were coming from, and really, you don't have to bite my head off, I wasn't trying to come off as harsh before, so if you took it that way, I'm sorry

----- Charles Kenyon wrote: ----

I'm not asking you to do anything. I'm telling you that if you want to b
effective in using these newsgroups, you will use a newsreader, not the web

Outlook and Outlook Express both read/send email. That is about all the
share other than the manufacturer (MS) and their name

Outlook is a Personal Information Manager that includes calendaring
journaling, email, notes, and a contact list. It interacts with othe
programs in the Office Suite. It does not handle newsgroups. It is
separate program and part of every Office Suite variation. Outlook 97 i
defective and must not be used for email

Outlook Express comes with Windows and is an OK program. It is a part o
Internet Explorer. The only thing I use it for in as a newsreader. You ca
also use the newsreader that is provided by netscape or an independen
newsreader

Advantage 1 - connects directly with the MS news server via the internet
The web interface is one or more layers on top of this news serve
interface. If you use a web interface you will probably miss answers to you
questions, have some difficulty switching newsgroups, and answer question
put by other users that have already been answered by others, not realizin
you are duplicating work

Advantage 2 - it can easily show threaded conversations

Advantage 3 - for properly posted cross-posts a newsreader will show th
post as read in your inbox for all newsgroups once you've read it in one
Your reply to a cross-posted message will be sent to all applicabl
newsgroups

Advantage 4 - it works almost exactly like email

Bottom line - I don't care what you do. Its your dime and your time
--

Charles Kenyo

See the MVP FAQ: <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/> which is awesome
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replie
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can lear
from my ignorance and your wisdom

zeldamaniac44 said:
I truely don't see why accessing through a browser presents such a bi
problem, and any format will remain foreign to me as long as it's no
linear, as I've said, linear view message boards is what I'm most used touse either of them, and if I start now, the thing that troubles me is havin
to *learn* how to use it. It took me forever to learn how to use FrontPag
to it's extentExcept, I'm not quite certain of how thi
subscribing thing works. If I have to subscribe to every *individual
newsgroup, if I have another question, or desire to access the others doe
that mean I have to go through the whole process again, to subscribe to tha
newsgroup*disadvantage* as opposed to the web-browser interface where you can easil
switch to other newsgroup, hmmmy problem, and as soon as possible I might add, if you don't remember th
problem was launching Word from other locations besides the newly forme
shortcut for WINWORD.EXE, but much more importantly, the fact that I can't
access my Word Documents from any manner except through File | Open in Word
itself. You may retrace the course of this thread a few posts, where I
explain more with more detail.PC as an office tool, you see, I have my a business where I run my office
from home.(to solve my problem) and improving my expirience here is slightly
off-topic, however, thank you, because I appreciate the help nonetheless.
 
C

Charles Kenyon

Sorry,

I wasn't trying to rebuke you. It has been a long day and I was afraid I had
been unclear. If you can use email, you already know how to use a
newsreader.
--

Charles Kenyon

See the MVP FAQ: <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/> which is awesome!
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This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.

zeldamaniac44 said:
I understood effectively where you were coming from, and really, you don't
have to bite my head off, I wasn't trying to come off as harsh before, so if
you took it that way, I'm sorry.
 
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Guest

Thanks Dayo, you brought some good points to my perspective, and I guess I should have come up with a better name for my thread, that's probably why it's been taking a while to get all this straightened out. And not necessarily whether it goes off topic or not, because I should have addressed the problem at the beginning, but, well, we all make mistakes huh?
 
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Guest

It's ok, it's ok :

I'm the one who should've been apologizing for having said the things in the ignorant manner that I did

Just to simplify the thing, there's no hard fellings intended, and I thank you for the info, and tips you provided, not many people would've.
 
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Graham Mayor

As others have indicated in my absence it is not difficult to set up and all
the instructions you need are on my web page.

The problem is that the Microsoft web portal is a poor window into usenet
(there is another portal that is even worse) where most of the contributors
access directly.

This is an all text newsgroup. You will get short shrift if you try to use
html which screws things up for the rest of us - and if you piss people here
off, you will soon find your messages ignored. I would also suggest that you
include previous correspondence (or at least the relevant parts of it) in
your posts, so that contributors don't have to dig to discover what you are
on about.

The web portals are painfully slow (the messages have to be peered into
usenet before they appear on the server) and often duplicate messages, so
your reference to message 11 in the thread could have been meaningless - but
I know which message you mean and will try and answer your questions.

The tool for copying macros is the organizer (tools > macro > macros >
organizer).

You cannot gain anything by editing normal.dot if that file becomes corrupt,
but you may need to recover stuff from even a corrupt template.

The only ways Word can acknowledge two normal.dot files is for you to have
one of them as a global add-in (in the Word startup folder) or to have a
file called normal.dot (which is not the default template) open for editing.
Otherwise Word only sees the one saved in the folder indicated to tools >
options > file locations > user templates.

Reregistering Word is only necessary if it loses track of file
associations - see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/ReRegisterWord.htm

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Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>>< ><<>
 
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Guest

Still no luck :(

I've been tring to figure out some sort of solution to the problems with Word 2000 but nothing comes to mind, that's why I need you people's help

I think I've mentioned this before but it doesn't hurt to say it again, I've only had problems with Word and none of the other Office series applications, maybe that helps target the problem, I don't know

-- ZM44 Out
 
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Guest

Something new occured when I launched Word [2000] I recieved a message telling me the program had stopped running or something to that effect, then it says "Please run the setup and select 'repair' to restore this application." Yes, that's exactly what it said, then it launched successfully, how weird

I selected "Detect and repair" as I've done before from the help menu in Word, assuming this is the "repair" option the message reffered to, same as always, it asked for the Office CD-ROM to replace the "DATA1.MSI" file

Does this mean anything?
 
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Charles Kenyon

The way these newsgroups work, you need to post a message with the subject
of your question in the subject line. Continuing an existing thread like
this makes it very likely that the people best able to answer your questions
will not read your post.

The other side of this is when you are probing further or giving additional
information about something you posted earlier, you _do_ want to continue in
the same thread.
--

Charles Kenyon

See the MVP FAQ: <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/> which is awesome!
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.

zeldamaniac44 said:
Something new occured when I launched Word [2000] I recieved a message
telling me the program had stopped running or something to that effect, then
it says "Please run the setup and select 'repair' to restore this
application." Yes, that's exactly what it said, then it launched
successfully, how weird.
I selected "Detect and repair" as I've done before from the help menu in
Word, assuming this is the "repair" option the message reffered to, same as
always, it asked for the Office CD-ROM to replace the "DATA1.MSI" file.
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

Have you tried *giving* it the CD as requested?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

zeldamaniac44 said:
Something new occured when I launched Word [2000] I recieved a message
telling me the program had stopped running or something to that effect, then
it says "Please run the setup and select 'repair' to restore this
application." Yes, that's exactly what it said, then it launched
successfully, how weird.
I selected "Detect and repair" as I've done before from the help menu in
Word, assuming this is the "repair" option the message reffered to, same as
always, it asked for the Office CD-ROM to replace the "DATA1.MSI" file.
 
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Guest

Yes, and I posted a follow up to all that I've said earlier on this thread, therefore this is, like you said, something one _would_ continue on the same thread

I've been on forums for the past three years almost, and I caught on very quickly to the slight differeces of USENET, as opposed to the mainstream boards I'm used to

----- Charles Kenyon wrote: ----

The way these newsgroups work, you need to post a message with the subjec
of your question in the subject line. Continuing an existing thread lik
this makes it very likely that the people best able to answer your question
will not read your post

The other side of this is when you are probing further or giving additiona
information about something you posted earlier, you _do_ want to continue i
the same thread
--

Charles Kenyo

See the MVP FAQ: <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/> which is awesome
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replie
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can lear
from my ignorance and your wisdom

zeldamaniac44 said:
Something new occured when I launched Word [2000] I recieved a messag
telling me the program had stopped running or something to that effect, the
it says "Please run the setup and select 'repair' to restore thi
application." Yes, that's exactly what it said, then it launche
successfully, how weirdWord, assuming this is the "repair" option the message reffered to, same a
always, it asked for the Office CD-ROM to replace the "DATA1.MSI" file
 
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Guest

Lol, I must have not told you

You see, unfortunately, I borrowed an Office 2000 CD from a friend, and that's how I installed it on my PC

Don't think I haven't been trying to reach my friend either, so far no luck on that

----- Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: ----

Have you tried *giving* it the CD as requested

-
Suzanne S. Barnhil
Microsoft MVP (Word
Words into Typ
Fairhope, Alabama US
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.or
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup s
all may benefit

zeldamaniac44 said:
Something new occured when I launched Word [2000] I recieved a messag
telling me the program had stopped running or something to that effect, the
it says "Please run the setup and select 'repair' to restore thi
application." Yes, that's exactly what it said, then it launche
successfully, how weirdWord, assuming this is the "repair" option the message reffered to, same a
always, it asked for the Office CD-ROM to replace the "DATA1.MSI" file
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

You mean this whole time we've been discussing a pirated copy of Word? I
have a suggestion: go buy a copy of Works Suite 2004. It includes a full
version of Word 2002, which you can install legally and be done with all
these problems. It costs less than $100, and there is a $15 mail-in rebate
currently in effect.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

zeldamaniac44 said:
Lol, I must have not told you.

You see, unfortunately, I borrowed an Office 2000 CD from a friend, and
that's how I installed it on my PC.
Don't think I haven't been trying to reach my friend either, so far no luck on that.

----- Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: -----

Have you tried *giving* it the CD as requested?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

Something new occured when I launched Word [2000] I recieved a
message
telling me the program had stopped running or something to that effect, then
it says "Please run the setup and select 'repair' to restore this
application." Yes, that's exactly what it said, then it launched
successfully, how weird. menu in
Word, assuming this is the "repair" option the message reffered to, same as
always, it asked for the Office CD-ROM to replace the "DATA1.MSI" file.
 

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