I'm new here and . . .

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Guest

Oooh, I really need help, but first of all could anyone be kind enough to just give a brief overview of these forums? Take the format for example, is that threaded format? It's not that I'm stupid, I've actually been to quite a few forums, of which I continue to stay active on depending on the forum itself, but I'm used to the linear format, so this place is new

This isn't intended to be spam, so I hope it isn't taken that way.
 
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Guest

Wow, this place is a little more slow-paced then I'm used to

Or I guess not that many people are on right now *sighs

You can just call me ZM44 for short, I know my full ScreenName can be a mouthful, I post more in a bit.
 
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Guest

Thanks Jay, and I think I'm starting to get used to the interface, just that I find it slightly irritating to read from such tiny rows, and the scrolling becomes a pain, lol

I'll try to explain my problem here as best I can, I hope this is reletive to this particular group, or should be in App. errors, well, I'll leave it up to you to decide

First of all I'm running a Windows 98 OS, and the version of Word I'm having trouble with is Word 2000, I have the entire Office 2000 series, but currently, only Word seems to have presented problems. It sarted about two days ago, I created a document in Word as I've done countless times before, I didn't save it in any unusual place, I put it in the My documents folder. However, soon after, each time I launched Word instead of recieving a blank document I get that last document I created, this led me to believe that somehow, someway, the blank document template for word was modified or replaced, which is just plain crazy, because I know I never did any such thing, but I did a file search nevertheless, designating the Templates folder (C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Templates) as the area to search, but I found no unusual files whatsoever. The next day, that was the least of my problems, for you see, I clicked the Word shortcut on my Desktop, only to recieve a brief "Windows Installer" dialogue box "preparing to install" immediately followed by "The feature you are trying to use is on a CD-ROM or another removable disk that is not availible. Please insert the 'Microsoft Office 2000 Premium' disk to continue" Yeah, this never happened before, and I can't think of a reason why it would, I'll also note, when going to Start Menu>Programs>Word 2000 The same thing happened with that source, but none of the other MS Office programs had a problem. I went into the "Microsoft Office" folder at this point, and finding WINWORD.EXE, I clicked it and it displayed the same "Windows Installer" dialogue box for a brief moment, then launched Word, so far this has been the only source where I have been able to access Word 2000, so I created a shortcut on the Desktop to the WINWORD.EXE file, obviously the older shortcut should point to the same file, but it didn't, when I checked it's properties it stated no terget whatsoever, so I deleted that old shortcut (the Word launcher in Start/Programs is just alike, but I haven't deleted it yet). I think this whole thing goes further than broken shortcuts though, and although I have a way to access Word again, the blank template error (mentioned before) has not been resolved either, so I hope someone can provide feedback here, thanks.
 
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Graham Mayor

The template issue is that you have managed to save something into the
normal.dot template. Rename normal.dot to oldnormal.dot and restart Word.

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Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/BlankDocNotBlank.htm

Also, note that for those reading in newsreaders, it would be helpful if you
would insert an occasional paragraph break. A huge unbroken chunk of text is
very difficult to read (and if Graham hadn't bothered, I wouldn't have been
able to offer the link above <g>).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

zeldamaniac44 said:
Thanks Jay, and I think I'm starting to get used to the interface, just
that I find it slightly irritating to read from such tiny rows, and the
scrolling becomes a pain, lol!
I'll try to explain my problem here as best I can, I hope this is reletive
to this particular group, or should be in App. errors, well, I'll leave it
up to you to decide.
First of all I'm running a Windows 98 OS, and the version of Word I'm
having trouble with is Word 2000, I have the entire Office 2000 series, but
currently, only Word seems to have presented problems. It sarted about two
days ago, I created a document in Word as I've done countless times before,
I didn't save it in any unusual place, I put it in the My documents folder.
However, soon after, each time I launched Word instead of recieving a blank
document I get that last document I created, this led me to believe that
somehow, someway, the blank document template for word was modified or
replaced, which is just plain crazy, because I know I never did any such
thing, but I did a file search nevertheless, designating the Templates
folder (C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Templates) as the area to search,
but I found no unusual files whatsoever. The next day, that was the least
of my problems, for you see, I clicked the Word shortcut on my Desktop, only
to recieve a brief "Windows Installer" dialogue box "preparing to install"
immediately followed by "The feature you are trying to use is on a CD-ROM or
another removable disk that is not availible. Please insert the 'Microsoft
Office 2000 Premium' disk to continue" Yeah, this never happened before,
and I can't think of a reason why it would, I'll also note, when going to
Start Menu>Programs>Word 2000 The same thing happened with that source, but
none of the other MS Office programs had a problem. I went into the
"Microsoft Office" folder at this point, and finding WINWORD.EXE, I clicked
it and it displayed the same "Windows Installer" dialogue box for a brief
moment, then launched Word, so far this has been the only source where I
have been able to access Word 2000, so I created a shortcut on the Desktop
to the WINWORD.EXE file, obviously the older shortcut should point to the
same file, but it didn't, when I checked it's properties it stated no terget
whatsoever, so I deleted that old shortcut (the Word launcher in
Start/Programs is just alike, but I haven't deleted it yet). I think this
whole thing goes further than broken shortcuts though, and although I have a
way to access Word again, the blank template error (mentioned before) has
not been resolved either, so I hope someone can provide feedback here,
thanks.
 
G

Guest

As a follow up to the last post I made on this thread, I’ll now mention an important thing, which I forgot to before

In addition to having troubles with launching Word 2000, I can’t launch any of my Word documents, and this obviously can’t be fixed with the reparation of a broken shortcut (as I did with WINWORD.EXE – see post quoted below), seeing as how there exists no shortcut, I always save my files in the same folders, and before now, I’ve never had any trouble accessing them, and I never made copies of them for that very reason as well.

There’s still a way to access these files though, the only way is if I choose File>Open from within Word, and locate the files, but just because I can find alternatives doesn’t make up for the frustration this situation causes, i.e. receiving that error message every time I try to access the program or document in a way other than those specified

Speaking about the tip Graham Mayor shared, coincidentally, after creating this thread, I browsed the other threads in this NG, and came to a thread that was remotely related to mine, it included a hyperlink that took me to a page about templates, which in turn had links to template problems, so I finally stumbled across a FAQ page about my very problem, called <a href="What can I do if my blank document template (normal.dot) is not blank?" target=blank_>What can I do if my blank document template (normal.dot) is not blank?</a

The slight problem with the technique of renaming normal.dot to oldnormal.dot is explained [at the FAQ] Yes, it’s true you rename the file and restart Word, a new default version of the file will be generated, however it will differ slightly, and as a result certain options like macros will be lost. But I already found an alternative, also stated in the same page, I can edit the normal.dot file itself, but there appears to be two normal.dot files on my file system. (???)

It’s unusual, but I believe it has something to do with a separate problem occurring with my PC, that problem arose when I enabled multiple users on the PC, this causes the PC to ask for a password every time you start the system (which I intended) one that corresponds with a user created.

The funny little problem is that if I choose cancel at the prompt, rather then the system telling me I need to include a password, it launches, but in a way where it reverts to it’s exact state before the my enabling of the new user, I’ve learned to avoid this by always entering my password at the prompt.

Now how I deduced that is based on the paths for both normal.dot files “C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates†and “C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\‘My Username’\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates†with the ‘username’ spot replaced by my true username of course.

I’ll also note that I discovered a third file named “~$normal.dot†in the same templates folder at the last path I said, interestingly enough, neither of the paths mentioned specify the Office templates folder, located at “C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Templates†which contains no normal.dot whatsoever


----- zeldamaniac44 wrote: ----

Thanks Jay, and I think I'm starting to get used to the interface, just that I find it slightly irritating to read from such tiny rows, and the scrolling becomes a pain, lol

I'll try to explain my problem here as best I can, I hope this is reletive to this particular group, or should be in App. errors, well, I'll leave it up to you to decide

First of all I'm running a Windows 98 OS, and the version of Word I'm having trouble with is Word 2000, I have the entire Office 2000 series, but currently, only Word seems to have presented problems. It sarted about two days ago, I created a document in Word as I've done countless times before, I didn't save it in any unusual place, I put it in the My documents folder.

However, soon after, each time I launched Word instead of recieving a blank document I get that last document I created, this led me to believe that somehow, someway, the blank document template for word was modified or replaced, which is just plain crazy, because I know I never did any such thing, but I did a file search nevertheless, designating the Templates folder (C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Templates) as the area to search, but I found no unusual files whatsoever.

The next day, that was the least of my problems, for you see, I clicked the Word shortcut on my Desktop, only to recieve a brief "Windows Installer" dialogue box "preparing to install" immediately followed by "The feature you are trying to use is on a CD-ROM or another removable disk that is not availible. Please insert the 'Microsoft Office 2000 Premium' disk to continue"

Yeah, this never happened before, and I can't think of a reason why it would, I'll also note, when going to Start Menu>Programs>Word 2000 The same thing happened with that source, but none of the other MS Office programs had a problem. I went into the "Microsoft Office" folder at this point, and finding WINWORD.EXE, I clicked it and it displayed the same "Windows Installer" dialogue box for a brief moment, then launched Word, so far this has been the only source where I have been able to access Word 2000, so I created a shortcut on the Desktop to the WINWORD.EXE file, obviously the older shortcut should point to the same file, but it didn't, when I checked it's properties it stated no target whatsoever, so I deleted that old shortcut (the Word launcher in Start/Programs is just alike, but I haven't deleted it yet).

I think this whole thing goes further than broken shortcuts though, and although I have a way to access Word again, the blank template error (mentioned before) has not been resolved either, so I hope someone can provide feedback here, thanks.
 
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Guest

Thanks for the tip, I'll try to refrain from creating such long posts from now on, but if I do, I'll divide it with paragraph breaks like you said.

Ironically, that hyperlink you provided -- it's the same one from the message I read the day before yesterday, if you refer to my follow-up from the last post (03/28) it has the same link.

----- Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: -----

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/BlankDocNotBlank.htm

Also, note that for those reading in newsreaders, it would be helpful if you
would insert an occasional paragraph break. A huge unbroken chunk of text is
very difficult to read (and if Graham hadn't bothered, I wouldn't have been
able to offer the link above <g>).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.
 
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Graham Mayor

I thought you were going to post short messages? :)

If you rename normal.dot to oldnormal.dot (or whatever) Word creates another
default template. The whole purpose of renaming as opposed to deleting is
that you can then use the organizer (tools > macro > macros > organizer) to
copy macros, autotexts styles etc from old to new.

If you have a file ~$normal.dot when Word is closed, this is an orphan file
and can be deleted. See
http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm

The relevant normal.dot file will be in the folder indicated at tools >
options > file locations > user templates, which varies with operating
system (and user).

Document launching and word launching problems may well be attributable to
registration issues. Re-register Word (Windows > start > run > type Winword
/r and press enter.) and/or detect and repair Word from the help menu.

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>>< ><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>>< ><<>


As a follow up to the last post I made on this thread, I'll now
mention an important thing, which I forgot to before.

In addition to having troubles with launching Word 2000, I can't
launch any of my Word documents, and this obviously can't be fixed
with the reparation of a broken shortcut (as I did with WINWORD.EXE -
see post quoted below), seeing as how there exists no shortcut, I
always save my files in the same folders, and before now, I've never
had any trouble accessing them, and I never made copies of them for
that very reason as well.

There's still a way to access these files though, the only way is if
I choose File>Open from within Word, and locate the files, but just
because I can find alternatives doesn't make up for the frustration
this situation causes, i.e. receiving that error message every time I
try to access the program or document in a way other than those
specified.

Speaking about the tip Graham Mayor shared, coincidentally, after
creating this thread, I browsed the other threads in this NG, and
came to a thread that was remotely related to mine, it included a
hyperlink that took me to a page about templates, which in turn had
links to template problems, so I finally stumbled across a FAQ page
about my very problem, called <a href="What can I do if my blank
document template (normal.dot) is not blank?" target=blank_>What can
I do if my blank document template (normal.dot) is not blank?</a>

The slight problem with the technique of renaming normal.dot to
oldnormal.dot is explained [at the FAQ] Yes, it's true you rename the
file and restart Word, a new default version of the file will be
generated, however it will differ slightly, and as a result certain
options like macros will be lost. But I already found an
alternative, also stated in the same page, I can edit the normal.dot
file itself, but there appears to be two normal.dot files on my file
system. (???)

It's unusual, but I believe it has something to do with a separate
problem occurring with my PC, that problem arose when I enabled
multiple users on the PC, this causes the PC to ask for a password
every time you start the system (which I intended) one that
corresponds with a user created.

The funny little problem is that if I choose cancel at the prompt,
rather then the system telling me I need to include a password, it
launches, but in a way where it reverts to it's exact state before
the my enabling of the new user, I've learned to avoid this by always
entering my password at the prompt.

Now how I deduced that is based on the paths for both normal.dot
files "C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates" and
"C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\'My Username'\Application
Data\Microsoft\Templates" with the 'username' spot replaced by my
true username of course.

I'll also note that I discovered a third file named "~$normal.dot" in
the same templates folder at the last path I said, interestingly
enough, neither of the paths mentioned specify the Office templates
folder, located at "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Templates"
which contains no normal.dot whatsoever.


----- zeldamaniac44 wrote: -----

Thanks Jay, and I think I'm starting to get used to the
interface, just that I find it slightly irritating to read from such
tiny rows, and the scrolling becomes a pain, lol!

I'll try to explain my problem here as best I can, I hope this
is reletive to this particular group, or should be in App. errors,
well, I'll leave it up to you to decide.

First of all I'm running a Windows 98 OS, and the version of
Word I'm having trouble with is Word 2000, I have the entire Office
2000 series, but currently, only Word seems to have presented
problems. It sarted about two days ago, I created a document in Word
as I've done countless times before, I didn't save it in any unusual
place, I put it in the My documents folder.

However, soon after, each time I launched Word instead of recieving a
blank document I get that last document I created, this led me to
believe that somehow, someway, the blank document template for word
was modified or replaced, which is just plain crazy, because I know I
never did any such thing, but I did a file search nevertheless,
designating the Templates folder (C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Templates) as the area to search, but I found no unusual files
whatsoever.

The next day, that was the least of my problems, for you see, I
clicked the Word shortcut on my Desktop, only to recieve a brief
"Windows Installer" dialogue box "preparing to install" immediately
followed by "The feature you are trying to use is on a CD-ROM or
another removable disk that is not availible. Please insert the
'Microsoft Office 2000 Premium' disk to continue"

Yeah, this never happened before, and I can't think of a reason why
it would, I'll also note, when going to Start Menu>Programs>Word 2000
The same thing happened with that source, but none of the other MS
Office programs had a problem. I went into the "Microsoft Office"
folder at this point, and finding WINWORD.EXE, I clicked it and it
displayed the same "Windows Installer" dialogue box for a brief
moment, then launched Word, so far this has been the only source
where I have been able to access Word 2000, so I created a shortcut
on the Desktop to the WINWORD.EXE file, obviously the older shortcut
should point to the same file, but it didn't, when I checked it's
properties it stated no target whatsoever, so I deleted that old
shortcut (the Word launcher in Start/Programs is just alike, but I
haven't deleted it yet).

I think this whole thing goes further than broken shortcuts though,
and although I have a way to access Word again, the blank template
error (mentioned before) has not been resolved either, so I hope
someone can provide feedback here, thanks.
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

To add to what Graham has said, if you have more than one user profile, it
is normal to find more than one Normal.dot, one for each user. The one you
want to be using/customizing is the one for your own user profile, which is
located at ""C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\'Your Username'\Application
Data\Microsoft\Templates." This is the path that should be given on the File
Locations tab of Tools | Options.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

Graham Mayor said:
I thought you were going to post short messages? :)

If you rename normal.dot to oldnormal.dot (or whatever) Word creates another
default template. The whole purpose of renaming as opposed to deleting is
that you can then use the organizer (tools > macro > macros > organizer) to
copy macros, autotexts styles etc from old to new.

If you have a file ~$normal.dot when Word is closed, this is an orphan file
and can be deleted. See
http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm

The relevant normal.dot file will be in the folder indicated at tools >
options > file locations > user templates, which varies with operating
system (and user).

Document launching and word launching problems may well be attributable to
registration issues. Re-register Word (Windows > start > run > type Winword
/r and press enter.) and/or detect and repair Word from the help menu.

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>>< ><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP

Web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/word
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>>< ><<>


As a follow up to the last post I made on this thread, I'll now
mention an important thing, which I forgot to before.

In addition to having troubles with launching Word 2000, I can't
launch any of my Word documents, and this obviously can't be fixed
with the reparation of a broken shortcut (as I did with WINWORD.EXE -
see post quoted below), seeing as how there exists no shortcut, I
always save my files in the same folders, and before now, I've never
had any trouble accessing them, and I never made copies of them for
that very reason as well.

There's still a way to access these files though, the only way is if
I choose File>Open from within Word, and locate the files, but just
because I can find alternatives doesn't make up for the frustration
this situation causes, i.e. receiving that error message every time I
try to access the program or document in a way other than those
specified.

Speaking about the tip Graham Mayor shared, coincidentally, after
creating this thread, I browsed the other threads in this NG, and
came to a thread that was remotely related to mine, it included a
hyperlink that took me to a page about templates, which in turn had
links to template problems, so I finally stumbled across a FAQ page
about my very problem, called <a href="What can I do if my blank
document template (normal.dot) is not blank?" target=blank_>What can
I do if my blank document template (normal.dot) is not blank?</a>

The slight problem with the technique of renaming normal.dot to
oldnormal.dot is explained [at the FAQ] Yes, it's true you rename the
file and restart Word, a new default version of the file will be
generated, however it will differ slightly, and as a result certain
options like macros will be lost. But I already found an
alternative, also stated in the same page, I can edit the normal.dot
file itself, but there appears to be two normal.dot files on my file
system. (???)

It's unusual, but I believe it has something to do with a separate
problem occurring with my PC, that problem arose when I enabled
multiple users on the PC, this causes the PC to ask for a password
every time you start the system (which I intended) one that
corresponds with a user created.

The funny little problem is that if I choose cancel at the prompt,
rather then the system telling me I need to include a password, it
launches, but in a way where it reverts to it's exact state before
the my enabling of the new user, I've learned to avoid this by always
entering my password at the prompt.

Now how I deduced that is based on the paths for both normal.dot
files "C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates" and
"C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\'My Username'\Application
Data\Microsoft\Templates" with the 'username' spot replaced by my
true username of course.

I'll also note that I discovered a third file named "~$normal.dot" in
the same templates folder at the last path I said, interestingly
enough, neither of the paths mentioned specify the Office templates
folder, located at "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Templates"
which contains no normal.dot whatsoever.


----- zeldamaniac44 wrote: -----

Thanks Jay, and I think I'm starting to get used to the
interface, just that I find it slightly irritating to read from such
tiny rows, and the scrolling becomes a pain, lol!

I'll try to explain my problem here as best I can, I hope this
is reletive to this particular group, or should be in App. errors,
well, I'll leave it up to you to decide.

First of all I'm running a Windows 98 OS, and the version of
Word I'm having trouble with is Word 2000, I have the entire Office
2000 series, but currently, only Word seems to have presented
problems. It sarted about two days ago, I created a document in Word
as I've done countless times before, I didn't save it in any unusual
place, I put it in the My documents folder.

However, soon after, each time I launched Word instead of recieving a
blank document I get that last document I created, this led me to
believe that somehow, someway, the blank document template for word
was modified or replaced, which is just plain crazy, because I know I
never did any such thing, but I did a file search nevertheless,
designating the Templates folder (C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Templates) as the area to search, but I found no unusual files
whatsoever.

The next day, that was the least of my problems, for you see, I
clicked the Word shortcut on my Desktop, only to recieve a brief
"Windows Installer" dialogue box "preparing to install" immediately
followed by "The feature you are trying to use is on a CD-ROM or
another removable disk that is not availible. Please insert the
'Microsoft Office 2000 Premium' disk to continue"

Yeah, this never happened before, and I can't think of a reason why
it would, I'll also note, when going to Start Menu>Programs>Word 2000
The same thing happened with that source, but none of the other MS
Office programs had a problem. I went into the "Microsoft Office"
folder at this point, and finding WINWORD.EXE, I clicked it and it
displayed the same "Windows Installer" dialogue box for a brief
moment, then launched Word, so far this has been the only source
where I have been able to access Word 2000, so I created a shortcut
on the Desktop to the WINWORD.EXE file, obviously the older shortcut
should point to the same file, but it didn't, when I checked it's
properties it stated no target whatsoever, so I deleted that old
shortcut (the Word launcher in Start/Programs is just alike, but I
haven't deleted it yet).

I think this whole thing goes further than broken shortcuts though,
and although I have a way to access Word again, the blank template
error (mentioned before) has not been resolved either, so I hope
someone can provide feedback here, thanks.
 
G

Guest

Just to clear a few things up, because I think there was a slight misunderstanding with when Graham Mayor said the point renaming normal.dot was so it wouldn’t have to be deleted. See, I never said I delete, or even rename normal.dot, because I simply don’t have the time or knowledge to use whichever tool Graham mentioned to restore the macros and other elements, therefore, as I made a point to say in my last post, I plan on editing the file itself, which I have successfully done already, in fact.

It still bothers me though, how it got overwritten in the first place if I never knew about it. In the article I read at word.mvp.org (I tried to put a link to this page before but it didn’t work) that you should be able to see when you click here, it says the very same thing – that people all over the place <em>accidentally</em> overwrite normal.dot without knowing how or why

And Graham if you may, can you be more specific about that registering, and the other technique you said would possibly help my troubles of launching Word 2000, that is the only problem with Word seeing as how I fixed the template error

Finally, Suzanne, about it being normal for two normal.dot files being in the registry when there are two existing users, I believe my case is different, after all I only created one user, but the system seems to think there’s two, as I explained in my last post, and so it reverts back to the state before any user modifications were made. I know this problem is probably not your specialty, so if you can’t provide insight, could you tell me which NG might be good for creating a new thread about this problem?
 
G

Guest

Oh, and before I forget, about those orphan files (as Graham reffered to them) the ones with "~$" in front of the name, I've been finding a lot of them, and they all seem to be hidden files, but what are they? When I viewed one of them it appared like a usage track or something, it contained text references to certian backround data for the corresponding document, sort of like a cookie. Are any of these guesses on target?
 
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Charles Kenyon

These files are "owner" files that Word and Windows use to keep more than
one person from editing a file at the same time. Any created during a
session are deleted automatically when Word is closed properly. If Word
crashes or the computer is unplugged they are "orphaned." If you find any on
your computer when Word is closed, they may safely be deleted. (When Word is
open, they may be treated as being in use and not subject to deletion.)

The filename pattern for the files I'm discussing is "~*.do?"
--

Charles Kenyon

See the MVP FAQ: <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/> which is awesome!
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This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
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zeldamaniac44 said:
Oh, and before I forget, about those orphan files (as Graham reffered to
them) the ones with "~$" in front of the name, I've been finding a lot of
them, and they all seem to be hidden files, but what are they? When I
viewed one of them it appared like a usage track or something, it contained
text references to certian backround data for the corresponding document,
sort of like a cookie. Are any of these guesses on target?
 
C

Charles Kenyon

The newsgroups support hyperlinks just fine. If you are posting using an
Internet Browser rather than a newsreader, that could be the problem. I use
Outlook Express only for newsgroups (not email) and link directly to the
news server at Microsoft.

I'm not sure whether the forum supports html, I only post and only read
items in plain text. HTML opens too many doorways on my system.
Nevertheless, any web address or email address in a message comes across
fine.

I use <URL: address> coding for mine (see sig line). I think, but don't
know, that this keeps long addresses usable despite word wrapping.
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Charles Kenyon

See the MVP FAQ: <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/> which is awesome!
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Charles Kenyon

See the MVP FAQ: <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/> which is awesome!
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zeldamaniac44 said:
Why is it none of my hyperlinks have worked, there was supposed to be one
in the second-to-last post I made, I wanted it to lead to that same article
at the Word MVP's site, is it that the forum doesn't support HTML?
target=blank_>this link</a> should work.
 
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Guest

Ahhh, thanks for clearing some of that stuff up Charles Kenyon

.. . . However you seem to have created more questions inside my head by doing so. First of all I must add, I don't think hyperlinks of any kind would be able to work without HTML, I mean think about it, all hyperlinks need to be "marked-up" so to speak, even if the server does it automatically for you

That's what HTML is -- Hypertext Markup Language

But, I'm beginning to see the technique of the server doing the marking automatically is what apperently is the only way the sucessfully create hyperlinks, you type out just the URL (No HTML tags) and although it won't activate at that point, it will when you post your message, I'd say that was my mistake all along

Yet it still seems to me that unless they locked it, there must be someway to edit HTML. Oh, nvm, they probably locked it for security purposes, yeah, that makes sense

Finally, to answer you, I am reading though a browser (MSIE 6.0) I didn't realize there was any alternative way of rendering this place. And I definitely didn't know it would be through Outlook, I always thought Outlook was basically a third-party e-mail server, was there something I was missing

If there was, I shouldn't be so suprised. I've never so much as launched Outlook 2000 (which I do have on my PC) because I've just seen it as unnecesacary in terms of the e-mail server compatibility, I simply rather check my e-mail online

Please send some feedback, thanks :

----- Charles Kenyon wrote: ----

The newsgroups support hyperlinks just fine. If you are posting using a
Internet Browser rather than a newsreader, that could be the problem. I us
Outlook Express only for newsgroups (not email) and link directly to th
news server at Microsoft

I'm not sure whether the forum supports html, I only post and only rea
items in plain text. HTML opens too many doorways on my system
Nevertheless, any web address or email address in a message comes acros
fine

I use <URL: address> coding for mine (see sig line). I think, but don'
know, that this keeps long addresses usable despite word wrapping
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Charles Kenyo

See the MVP FAQ: <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/> which is awesome
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Charles Kenyo

See the MVP FAQ: <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/> which is awesome
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Guest

Well I checked it out, and it seems like a real headache to setup that format, I think I'll do fine with accessing through Internet Explorer for now

Besides, there's plenty of bigger problems, actually I've been waiting for either you, or Suzanne, to come here, because the both of you have been quite helpful so far, thank you for that :

However, there's one last thing I need from you, and that's to please view the 11th post in this thread, where I discuss my final problem with more detail, if it helps here's a link

http://communities2.microsoft.com/c...ement&mid=9132be6e-c0e5-4e7d-8921-feb30f82ece

Thank you again -- ZM4

----- Graham Mayor wrote: ----

Links work fine in Outlook Express newsgroup format - in plain text and tha
is the best way to access. It is Outlook EXPRESS not Outlook
See http://www.gmayor.com/MSNews.ht

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Graham Mayor - Word MV

Web site www.gmayor.co
Word MVP web site www.mvps.org/wor
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Charles Kenyon

If you plan on using and contributing to these newsgroups, switch to a
newsgroup reader. The browser interface is kludge. It is usually behind and
is difficult to use.

I was talking about Outlook Express, not Outlook. If you have Internet
Explorer, you have Outlook Express. Setting it up is not difficult; it takes
about 5-10 minutes, max. It will probably save you more time than that the
first day you use it.
Start up Outlook Express. Then click on this link:
<URL:
You will see a message saying that you are not subscribed to any newsgroups
for this account, and asking if you would like to view the list of groups.
Say yes. Wait a minute or two: there are about 2,000 groups in the list.
For questions about Word, the names of all of the groups you want begin with
"microsoft.public.word..." so you need to wait for the whole list to arrive,
then scroll to the bottom.

The info above is from <URL: http://word.mvps.org/FindHelp/WhichNewgrp.htm>.

There are better programs out there than Outlook Express. I just don't know
the details of them. I don't recommend using Outlook Express for email.
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Charles Kenyon

See the MVP FAQ: <URL: http://www.mvps.org/word/> which is awesome!
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zeldamaniac44 said:
Well I checked it out, and it seems like a real headache to setup that
format, I think I'll do fine with accessing through Internet Explorer for
now.
Besides, there's plenty of bigger problems, actually I've been waiting for
either you, or Suzanne, to come here, because the both of you have been
quite helpful so far, thank you for that :)
However, there's one last thing I need from you, and that's to please view
the 11th post in this thread, where I discuss my final problem with more
detail, if it helps here's a link:
 
R

Rob Schneider

It is very easy to setup Outlook Express for newsgroup reading. Give it
a shot.

Hope this is useful to you. Let us know.

rms
 

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