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JAD
That's one of the craziest things I've heard in awhile. Imagine the
frustration and danger if those PSUs would ever to venture out of the
local.
That's one of the craziest things I've heard in awhile. Imagine the
frustration and danger if those PSUs would ever to venture out of the
local.
W
w_tom
Experience without basic theory makes one his own worst
enemy. Important facts were posted previously. No properly
constructed power supply can damage RAM, motherboard, and
CPU. If one's observation are contrary, then one has
demonstrated how many computers are built by computer
assemblers with only a bean counter mentality. Computers
built on monetary considerations rather than using basic
technical knowledge. The lesson: buy power supplies that are
not dumped into the economy (because so many computer
assemblers don't have fundamental knowledge).
Important expression is 'over voltage protector'. Regardless
of voltage selector switch, no damage must occur beyond the
PSU. That was even required 30 years ago. Basic power supply
knowledge makes obvious what BigH2K posted:
Experience without fundamental knowledge can result in wild
and erroneous speculation. A power supply that damages
computer components was defective when purchased and exists
because the computer assembler never first learned basic power
supply fundamentals.
enemy. Important facts were posted previously. No properly
constructed power supply can damage RAM, motherboard, and
CPU. If one's observation are contrary, then one has
demonstrated how many computers are built by computer
assemblers with only a bean counter mentality. Computers
built on monetary considerations rather than using basic
technical knowledge. The lesson: buy power supplies that are
not dumped into the economy (because so many computer
assemblers don't have fundamental knowledge).
Important expression is 'over voltage protector'. Regardless
of voltage selector switch, no damage must occur beyond the
PSU. That was even required 30 years ago. Basic power supply
knowledge makes obvious what BigH2K posted:
Experience without fundamental knowledge can result in wild
and erroneous speculation. A power supply that damages
computer components was defective when purchased and exists
because the computer assembler never first learned basic power
supply fundamentals.
S
Stuffed
Fred Finisterre said:
Tis a silly thing to overlook, but I seem to recall reading other people had
done this on one of the Ebuyer product reviews, think it was one of the
cheap cases when I was looking for a PSU. So you're a bit daft, but on the
bright side, you're not the only one
T
TMack
John Doe said:
Top-posting weirdo!
Tony
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Trout
My Zalman PSU doesn't have one. It automatically switches to needed
voltage.
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Mike Tomlinson
Chris 159 <temp@cdelectri said:
Don't talk crap. A motherboard shorted to the case won't cause the PSU
to go bang. It'll go into current-limiting mode (if you listen to it,
you may hear it ticking quietly.)
M
Mike Tomlinson
Fred Finisterre said:
I disagree. If it's sold for use in the UK, it has to be suitable for
its intended market, therefore it should be sold with the switch
correctly set.
In your situation, I'd change the switch to 230V and raise a RMA with
ebuyer. Just say the PSU went bang on power up (this is a fairly common
failure mode even when the switch is correctly set); don't tell them the
switch was wrong.
The Antec True 380 is a nice PSU, it'd be worth getting a replacement
under warranty. They're almost 60 quid new.
M
Mike Tomlinson
John Doe said:
*plonk*
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Zotin Khuma
....... said:
Speaking of personal experiences, here's mine. Three of the computers
I assembled for friends suffered lightning strikes this year, all of
them Athlon XPs linked by a neighborhood network.
The lightning bolt partially vapourised a (fortunately) disused
cordless phone antenna on the roof of one of them. Smoke rose from the
house and neighbors ran to see if anyone was hurt. One computer had a
discrete LAN card which was destroyed while the other two had
integrated LAN ports and the motherboards had to be replaced - mobo
chips were literally blown apart and the network switch was a charred
mess. But the CPUs and other components all survived and everything
ran as usual the next day.
Another computer, also an Athlon XP that I built for a local cable TV
company, was damaged last year in a freak accident that caused 60V AC
to be fed back to the computer via the video signal link. The mobo
also had chips blown up and had to be replaced along with the PSU, HDD
and RAM. The CPU survived and is still going strong today.
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PawsForThought
From: Trout (e-mail address removed)
My Thermaltake psu doesn't have a switch either and is automatic.
My Thermaltake psu doesn't have a switch either and is automatic.
C
Chris 159
Mike Tomlinson said:
who rattled your cage ? couldnt you have simply said i'm mistaken or
something ?
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Dorothy Bradbury
Most likely a voltage selection issue, or fault on the PCB.
o Very cheap PSUs have a horribly high DOA rate
o They often are not fully ATX compliant re protection
A quiet fizz is the filter, a louder noise the big primary electrolytics.
This is where ATX compliance matters
o ATX compliant PSUs should tolerate full circuit by shutting down
---- on removal of the short-circuit the PSU should be undamaged
o ATX compliant PSUs should not emit smoke, matter or such like
---- some smoke is however inevitable in some component failures
o ATX compliance says nothing about voltage selector protection
---- unfortunate, since 220V on 110V damages PSU primary side
I mention ATX as recoverable on short-circuit for another reason:
o Laptop-brick & DC-to-DC convertor boards are becoming popular
---- 120-200W in a tiny board board, £20 for 200W versions
o Many convertor boards are not quite ATX compliant
---- short-circuit is triggered at 120-200%, but is non-recoverable
Using a big 12V Industrial/DIN fanless PSU you can power many PC
boards silently, but short-circuit protection needs careful thought.
Hopefully damage is limited to the PSU.
o Very cheap PSUs have a horribly high DOA rate
o They often are not fully ATX compliant re protection
A quiet fizz is the filter, a louder noise the big primary electrolytics.
This is where ATX compliance matters
o ATX compliant PSUs should tolerate full circuit by shutting down
---- on removal of the short-circuit the PSU should be undamaged
o ATX compliant PSUs should not emit smoke, matter or such like
---- some smoke is however inevitable in some component failures
o ATX compliance says nothing about voltage selector protection
---- unfortunate, since 220V on 110V damages PSU primary side
I mention ATX as recoverable on short-circuit for another reason:
o Laptop-brick & DC-to-DC convertor boards are becoming popular
---- 120-200W in a tiny board board, £20 for 200W versions
o Many convertor boards are not quite ATX compliant
---- short-circuit is triggered at 120-200%, but is non-recoverable
Using a big 12V Industrial/DIN fanless PSU you can power many PC
boards silently, but short-circuit protection needs careful thought.
Hopefully damage is limited to the PSU.
T
Terry
That's nothing, When i was serving over in Iracq i had an AMD based field
laptop top take a direct hit from a scud missile- then run over by a
(friendly) tank- all that was visibly left was the smoking AMD chip- apart
fron one slightly bent pin it was fine! - got it in my PC right now sending
this post!....;-)...
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Martin G.1.0
Zotin Khuma said:
I once had a bolt of lightning shoot out of my floppy drive, bounce off my
cat, and then into my dog. Now my dog can fly, and my cat can make herself
invisible whenever she wants to. Oh yeah, now both the dog and cat are able
to talk now too.
;-)
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Lordy
I'm inclined to believe this. I cant provide any good links but generally
if you sell electrical stuff the end user should be able to plug it in with
no electrical risk. (One reason why we dont have to wire plugs anymore (*)
) Suppose something flew off and blinded the OP? If things are inclined to
bang when plugged in then the seller is responsible. IMO
(*) Those were the days. Trimming each wire to their different lengths.
Maknig sure the plug had a firm grip of the sleeve wire ..
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Trout
Yea, here's what Zalman says about it.
http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=76&code=015
Simplifying Source Input - Free Voltage
Unlike products with Passive PFC, where you have to set the operating
voltage (115VAC / 230VAC) with a manual switch, this product can be
used with any normal AC input source ranging from 100VAC to 240VAC.
B
BigH2K
Mike Tomlinson said:
Not to mention that they're a customised version designed for extra
quietness.
B
BigH2K
Martin G.1.0 said:
Jesus you too were lucky, I once had this nuclear reactor go into
meltdown......
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John Doe
Troll.
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John Doe
Troll.