D
Drew
Seems like IE in Beta 2 has taken over my CPU when I try to start it. I can
run Firefox just fine. Anyone else?
run Firefox just fine. Anyone else?
D
Drew
I was able to fix the problem. If anyone else have this same problem,
uninstall Java and run adaware. Works fine now.
uninstall Java and run adaware. Works fine now.
C
Chad Harris
It's iexplore.exe no "R" and explorer.exe with an "R" btw Drew.
There ain't no seem to this--you need to do the usual to cut cpu and I see
Vista box after Vista box with this symptom. Cut cpu demand the normal
ways. Turn off services you don't need and processes you don't need. Vista
defaults MCE processes that aren't needed if you aren't running MCE as an
example. Don't post back that you have it. Use google to look up every
process and service and there are several you don't know and end them.
Defrag regularly sev times a week with a real defragger not the play toy
watered down piece of junk that Vista has--just because it's got the MSFT
logo on the start button sure as hell doesn't mean quality. Run spyware
scanners--defender, adaware, spybot. Clean your temp and temp internet
files frrequently. If you still have problem go to
http://support.microsoft.com and look up clean boot troubleshooting.
CH
There ain't no seem to this--you need to do the usual to cut cpu and I see
Vista box after Vista box with this symptom. Cut cpu demand the normal
ways. Turn off services you don't need and processes you don't need. Vista
defaults MCE processes that aren't needed if you aren't running MCE as an
example. Don't post back that you have it. Use google to look up every
process and service and there are several you don't know and end them.
Defrag regularly sev times a week with a real defragger not the play toy
watered down piece of junk that Vista has--just because it's got the MSFT
logo on the start button sure as hell doesn't mean quality. Run spyware
scanners--defender, adaware, spybot. Clean your temp and temp internet
files frrequently. If you still have problem go to
http://support.microsoft.com and look up clean boot troubleshooting.
CH
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Tom
Chad Harris said:
Well, since Vista is very new and beta, how and what services would you know
to turn off; they are somehwat different that XP's? I have already
experienced some issues turning of one service (and it isn't listed as a
service). I think the OP simply erred in spelling, not that he has a virus
or spyware. If you had read these issues with Java in IE7 with Vista, many
had issues similar to his, most was that IE7 wouldn't load a web page.
To get Java to work, I uninstalled it, then reinstalled it, and I have had
no issues with IE7 since doing this (never was an issue with Firefox).
C
Chad Harris
"how and what services would you know" and I also said to check out
processes as well. Here's a guide of how to clean up, but it won't have
Vista processes and service references yet:
Speed and Unfreeze PC and Clean Windows; Remove Spyware
http://tinyurl.com/znqxh
***Search them in a search engine.*** MSFT has always done a poor job of
explaing them via "Select an item to view it's description." Many of the
descriptions are just parotting the name of the service and do a horrendous
job of explaining it. I'll be on the lookout for some Vista service lists.
Use google or something else meanwhile.
" I have already experienced some issues turning of one service (and it
isn't listed as a service..."
Tells us nothing Tom. Be more explicit. Which issues and what service
that's "not listed as a service"
It never helps to know "issues similar" when the OP doesn't or someone else
doesn't state the issues. You can waste a lifetime guessing.
CH
processes as well. Here's a guide of how to clean up, but it won't have
Vista processes and service references yet:
Speed and Unfreeze PC and Clean Windows; Remove Spyware
http://tinyurl.com/znqxh
***Search them in a search engine.*** MSFT has always done a poor job of
explaing them via "Select an item to view it's description." Many of the
descriptions are just parotting the name of the service and do a horrendous
job of explaining it. I'll be on the lookout for some Vista service lists.
Use google or something else meanwhile.
" I have already experienced some issues turning of one service (and it
isn't listed as a service..."
Tells us nothing Tom. Be more explicit. Which issues and what service
that's "not listed as a service"
It never helps to know "issues similar" when the OP doesn't or someone else
doesn't state the issues. You can waste a lifetime guessing.
CH
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Tom
Your link references XP, not Vista. Though some of services in Vista are
still the same as XP's, there are quite a few that are different. As far as
the service I mentioned (misnomer on my part), it is something that starts
up with Windows that can only be turned off by resetting some security
features (you can look around and test for yourself); I don't want to give
some who may be more curious than needed, to know how to do this and
(possibly) cause a more serious issue.
In any case, you didn't address the OP's concern with Java, you generalized
spyware and virus' as the issue. Had you read through these messages you
would have seen them. I already stated what I did to stop my issue with
Java; the mileage may vary with others with the method I chose.
..
still the same as XP's, there are quite a few that are different. As far as
the service I mentioned (misnomer on my part), it is something that starts
up with Windows that can only be turned off by resetting some security
features (you can look around and test for yourself); I don't want to give
some who may be more curious than needed, to know how to do this and
(possibly) cause a more serious issue.
In any case, you didn't address the OP's concern with Java, you generalized
spyware and virus' as the issue. Had you read through these messages you
would have seen them. I already stated what I did to stop my issue with
Java; the mileage may vary with others with the method I chose.
..
C
Colin Barnhorst
You might as well tell the inexperienced how to do it. They can't do much
worse than they already are, IMHO. Anyway, all one needs to start with is
to call the System Utility tool with "msconfig" in Start Search and learn
from there by setting up a clean boot.
worse than they already are, IMHO. Anyway, all one needs to start with is
to call the System Utility tool with "msconfig" in Start Search and learn
from there by setting up a clean boot.
T
Tom
And what I am speaking about is not listed in 'msconfig', either in startup
or under the 'services' tab there; it is system run. I looked in all the
usual places before doing what I did, and it actually prevented me from
showing my network status (as one effect) when I went under it to disable
it. I am fairly decent with Windows, and I do a lot with it, I just thought
Chad's first response was more reaction to the usual XP type problem post
when someone has a similar issue, but we all know this isn't XP. Anyway,
nuff said, if you want to find it, open task manger, and break down what is
running there, and what you will not find in 'msconfig' and in
'services.msc'.
or under the 'services' tab there; it is system run. I looked in all the
usual places before doing what I did, and it actually prevented me from
showing my network status (as one effect) when I went under it to disable
it. I am fairly decent with Windows, and I do a lot with it, I just thought
Chad's first response was more reaction to the usual XP type problem post
when someone has a similar issue, but we all know this isn't XP. Anyway,
nuff said, if you want to find it, open task manger, and break down what is
running there, and what you will not find in 'msconfig' and in
'services.msc'.
C
Chad Harris
"Your link references XP, not Vista. Though some of services in Vista are
still the same as XP's, there are quite a few that are different."
I know--it's been around for more than 10 months and I've been using it.
One of the first things I did when I got Vista was to use a search engine to
nail the services and the processes in task manager I couldn't identify.
Why have yuo been sitting on your hands and not done this Tom? You're a big
boy and you have the web and access to search engines--use them. My link is
one of the few to start posting Vista books. Those have information that
MSFT refuses to provide you and the link hasn't updated for Vista yet
because information needed is being witheld because MSFT is not getting off
its lazy ass and publishing it. 3rd party books are putting out more info
than MSFT is on major components of Vista. Beta testers are being denied
key information that TAP testers are getting.
This sentence below makes no coherent sense in English: What service are
you talking about? This sentence is double-talk. This is the most
eggregious crap sentence I've seen by someone asking for help in months.
Someone posted about not dissing the helpees--the same goes for the helpers.
" As far as
the service I mentioned (misnomer on my part), it is something that starts
up with Windows that can only be turned off by resetting some security
features (you can look around and test for yourself); I don't want to give
some who may be more curious than needed, to know how to do this and
(possibly) cause a more serious issue."
That's simply not coherent. You can't expect us to help you with a
purported entity you call a service that's causing trouble if you won't name
it. If you're into "Jeapordy" it's on TV several stations. I don't have to
address the OP's concern with Java because Java has not a damn thing to do
with how Vista runs or doesn't run well. I didn't generalize anything as
the cause of the problems. I just recommended logical steps. I don't have
a Windows box that isn't running well because I follow them.
It takes a few tenths of a second to find a service guide or to google for
services or processes you don't know --a lot less time than it did for you
to construct sentences of total jibberish.
Vista Service Guide Part 1
http://www.tweakvista.com/article38662.aspx
Vista Service Guide Part 2
http://www.tweakvista.com/article38664.aspx
If additional services are in Beta 2 or RC1 or RC2 than google por ise a
searchj engine even MSN accordingly.
CH
still the same as XP's, there are quite a few that are different."
I know--it's been around for more than 10 months and I've been using it.
One of the first things I did when I got Vista was to use a search engine to
nail the services and the processes in task manager I couldn't identify.
Why have yuo been sitting on your hands and not done this Tom? You're a big
boy and you have the web and access to search engines--use them. My link is
one of the few to start posting Vista books. Those have information that
MSFT refuses to provide you and the link hasn't updated for Vista yet
because information needed is being witheld because MSFT is not getting off
its lazy ass and publishing it. 3rd party books are putting out more info
than MSFT is on major components of Vista. Beta testers are being denied
key information that TAP testers are getting.
This sentence below makes no coherent sense in English: What service are
you talking about? This sentence is double-talk. This is the most
eggregious crap sentence I've seen by someone asking for help in months.
Someone posted about not dissing the helpees--the same goes for the helpers.
" As far as
the service I mentioned (misnomer on my part), it is something that starts
up with Windows that can only be turned off by resetting some security
features (you can look around and test for yourself); I don't want to give
some who may be more curious than needed, to know how to do this and
(possibly) cause a more serious issue."
That's simply not coherent. You can't expect us to help you with a
purported entity you call a service that's causing trouble if you won't name
it. If you're into "Jeapordy" it's on TV several stations. I don't have to
address the OP's concern with Java because Java has not a damn thing to do
with how Vista runs or doesn't run well. I didn't generalize anything as
the cause of the problems. I just recommended logical steps. I don't have
a Windows box that isn't running well because I follow them.
It takes a few tenths of a second to find a service guide or to google for
services or processes you don't know --a lot less time than it did for you
to construct sentences of total jibberish.
Vista Service Guide Part 1
http://www.tweakvista.com/article38662.aspx
Vista Service Guide Part 2
http://www.tweakvista.com/article38664.aspx
If additional services are in Beta 2 or RC1 or RC2 than google por ise a
searchj engine even MSN accordingly.
CH
C
Chad Harris
Every clean boot troubleshooting MSKB to date is in the link I posted for
Tom and the OP.
CH
Tom and the OP.
CH
C
Chad Harris
The link had thorough instructions for all clean boot modalities that are
listed on MSFT's sites and in the MSKBs. It was carefully done to include a
number of those type steps. If it doesn't have a Vista Service List up yet,
you might try the novel idea of searching for one with Google or a meta
search engine like Dogpile http://www.dogpile.com As to msconfig and all
clean boot troubleshooting and in Windows they absolutely do apply to
Vista. If you make the mistake of reading the label or title of an article
or MSKB and it names one OS, and you don't think it through or try it for
another OS, you are going to restrict yourself from a lot of helpful aids.
As to services for vista simply google or use a search engine. I've found
several. Every one of the hygeine hints on that link apply to Vista and you
can find a services list easily and processes can be googled or search
engined. Gotta be willing to do the heavy lifting with key board and mouse
some of the time, Tom.
I've posted this several times here:
Vista Beta 1 Service Guide: Part 1
http://www.tweakvista.com/article38662.aspx
Vista Beta 1 Service Guide: Part 2
http://www.tweakvista.com/article38664.aspx
Enjoy.
CH
listed on MSFT's sites and in the MSKBs. It was carefully done to include a
number of those type steps. If it doesn't have a Vista Service List up yet,
you might try the novel idea of searching for one with Google or a meta
search engine like Dogpile http://www.dogpile.com As to msconfig and all
clean boot troubleshooting and in Windows they absolutely do apply to
Vista. If you make the mistake of reading the label or title of an article
or MSKB and it names one OS, and you don't think it through or try it for
another OS, you are going to restrict yourself from a lot of helpful aids.
As to services for vista simply google or use a search engine. I've found
several. Every one of the hygeine hints on that link apply to Vista and you
can find a services list easily and processes can be googled or search
engined. Gotta be willing to do the heavy lifting with key board and mouse
some of the time, Tom.
I've posted this several times here:
Vista Beta 1 Service Guide: Part 1
http://www.tweakvista.com/article38662.aspx
Vista Beta 1 Service Guide: Part 2
http://www.tweakvista.com/article38664.aspx
Enjoy.
CH