IE8 Problems

[Pepper]

I installed IE8 a couple of weeks ago, and it totally messed up my email. I
went back to IE7. I tried it again today after getting a Windows Update
labelled "Important". As it said that it was "Windows IE8 for Vista", I
thought it was worth trying. Wrong!!! The bugs are not worked out! It
changed my home page to "Road Runner", despite the fact that my carrier is
Verizon! I once again went back to IE7. I will not try IE8 again until I
read somewhere on here that the bugs have been worked out!

 

[John]

I installed IE8 a couple of weeks ago, and it totally messed up my email.
I
went back to IE7. I tried it again today after getting a Windows Update
labelled "Important". As it said that it was "Windows IE8 for Vista", I
thought it was worth trying. Wrong!!! The bugs are not worked out! It
changed my home page to "Road Runner", despite the fact that my carrier is
Verizon! I once again went back to IE7. I will not try IE8 again until I
read somewhere on here that the bugs have been worked out!

Yeah dude... IE8 ate my dog. Uninstalling it doesn't bring my dog back
alive. Seriously, what does your default home page (RoadRunner) have
anything to do with IE8?

 

[John E. Carty]

I installed IE8 a couple of weeks ago, and it totally messed up my email.
I
went back to IE7. I tried it again today after getting a Windows Update
labelled "Important". As it said that it was "Windows IE8 for Vista", I
thought it was worth trying. Wrong!!! The bugs are not worked out! It
changed my home page to "Road Runner", despite the fact that my carrier is
Verizon! I once again went back to IE7. I will not try IE8 again until I
read somewhere on here that the bugs have been worked out!

Sounds like a PEBCAK issue to me

 

[Pepper]

Well, the changing of the home page happened immediately after installing
IE8. It doesn't take a computer genius to see cause and effect! Why the
sarcasm? I only posted this in case others (computer newbies) were having
similar problems. These discussion groups have proved invaluable to me. I
changed the home page back to Verizon via the "Tools, Internet Options"
settings. However, I couldn't get rid of the Road Runner stuff on the Tool
Bar -- Road Runner Mail, etc., all of which were useless to me. I did a
System Restore and all is well. Yes, I know I could have gone another route,
but I don't have important files (just some photos that are backed up), so
for me, this was actually the simplest route.

 

[webster72n]

Sounds like a PEBCAK issue to me

Does that mean 'Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard' issue? JADQ.

 

[Pepper]

I guess today is my lucky day -- replies from TWO clever, thoughtful people.
(I'm being sarcastic, in case that went over your heads.) Do some reading!
MANY people are having issues with IE8. Don't bother replying for my
benefit. I'm done with this foolishness.

 

[John]

Well, the changing of the home page happened immediately after installing
IE8. It doesn't take a computer genius to see cause and effect! Why the
sarcasm? I only posted this in case others (computer newbies) were
having
similar problems. These discussion groups have proved invaluable to me.
I
changed the home page back to Verizon via the "Tools, Internet Options"
settings. However, I couldn't get rid of the Road Runner stuff on the
Tool
Bar -- Road Runner Mail, etc., all of which were useless to me. I did a
System Restore and all is well. Yes, I know I could have gone another
route,
but I don't have important files (just some photos that are backed up), so
for me, this was actually the simplest route.

Software doesn't magically appear on PCs. It has to be installed. The
presence of RR toolbar confirms that someone has installed RoadRunner
software on that PC.

I'm not a big fan of IE8 either although I have never had any problem with
it. Installing IE8 thru Windows Update will not change your home page
settings or worse, add Road Runner toolbar with it.

 

[John]

I guess today is my lucky day -- replies from TWO clever, thoughtful
people.
(I'm being sarcastic, in case that went over your heads.) Do some
reading!
MANY people are having issues with IE8. Don't bother replying for my
benefit. I'm done with this foolishness.

I agree IE8 has problems. However, what you claimed earlier (IE changes home
page setting and adds RoadRunner toolbar) just doesn't make any sense.

 

[+Bob+]

I agree IE8 has problems. However, what you claimed earlier (IE changes home
page setting and adds RoadRunner toolbar) just doesn't make any sense.

Perhaps he had some RR IE enhancement module on his system and the IE8
install enabled it.

 

[John]

Perhaps he had some RR IE enhancement module on his system and the IE8
install enabled it.

That makes sense. But as I said on my other reply, it doesn't magically
appear. User doesn't know it's already there.

 

[Dave]

A Windows Update is not going to change your default homepage, nor add any
RR stuff to the toolbar.
Something else did.

 

[Gordon]

I installed IE8 a couple of weeks ago, and it totally messed up my email.

Err IE is a WEB BROWSER. How can it "totally mess up my email"?

I went back to IE7. I tried it again today after getting a Windows
Update
labelled "Important". As it said that it was "Windows IE8 for Vista", I
thought it was worth trying. Wrong!!! The bugs are not worked out! It
changed my home page to "Road Runner", despite the fact that my carrier is
Verizon! I once again went back to IE7. I will not try IE8 again until I
read somewhere on here that the bugs have been worked out!

Then I suspect you have something else wrong. How would a browser "change
your home page" to something that you don't even subscribe to?

 

[Peter Foldes]

You are having these issues because of the following. If you had posted to the IE8
newsgroup you would have been advised to do the following to avoid the issue(s) that
you are now experiencing with the IE8 installation

You failed to disable your anti-virus application, any
real-time protections afforded any anti-spyware applications, and your
third-party firewall (if any) and then enable the Windows Firewall prior to
installing IE8 & rebooting twice after install.

 

[Charlie Tame]

You are having these issues because of the following. If you had posted
to the IE8 newsgroup you would have been advised to do the following to
avoid the issue(s) that you are now experiencing with the IE8 installation

You failed to disable your anti-virus application, any
real-time protections afforded any anti-spyware applications, and your
third-party firewall (if any) and then enable the Windows Firewall prior to
installing IE8 & rebooting twice after install.

Peter, if those steps are necessary why are MS trying to foist IE8 on us
in the guise of an automatic update which thousands may just click on
and install, thus breaking the machine.

My experience has been similar with video card drivers from the update
website.

People are advised to always go to makers site, but in fact the drivers
from MS are identical when offered, the problem seems not to be the
driver but rather that they need to be installed on their own.

By that I mean download>save>disable stuff that starts with
windows>reboot>install driver and nothing else before that>reboot.

So it's apparently not the MS offered driver, or the update site per-se,
rather it's the combination and method sometimes (Not always) breaks things.

I mean when carrying out the procedure you describe should one be facing
East, turn the light off and stand perfectly still with one foot raised
off the ground, not forgetting to first cover the parrot's
cage?

I just checked the update site and there it is again, already checked,
nothing about "Read article xxx first" it just says "You may need to
reboot".

Please don't think I'm aiming at you personally, or even MS for that
matter, but people do expect "Windows" to plug in and got and for
heaven's sake we are talking a browser here (Or we should be anyway) not
half an OS.

And when something breaks many people "Will" see it as an OS problem at
first.

 

[+Bob+]

Please don't think I'm aiming at you personally, or even MS for that
matter, but people do expect "Windows" to plug in and got and for
heaven's sake we are talking a browser here (Or we should be anyway) not
half an OS.

Aim at MS. If those steps are actually necessary, then MS is at fault
for not requiring them and/or building instructions into the update
process.

 

[webster72n]

You are having these issues because of the following. If you had posted to
the IE8 newsgroup you would have been advised to do the following to avoid
the issue(s) that you are now experiencing with the IE8 installation

You failed to disable your anti-virus application, any
real-time protections afforded any anti-spyware applications, and your
third-party firewall (if any) and then enable the Windows Firewall prior
to
installing IE8 & rebooting twice after install.

I'm glad to have held back with my installation.
Now I feel fairly safe to go ahead.

 

[Charlie Tame]

Aim at MS. If those steps are actually necessary, then MS is at fault
for not requiring them and/or building instructions into the update
process.

Well yes and no, the AV and FW are not part of every OS and are not MS
products, so there's no guarantee they will be on every system, the
mistake I think is that 1. this seems to be a "General" thing and 2.
Pushing by auto update does not encourage the user to look for potential
risks.

I mean you arrive at work, PC says install updates and you you say
"Express" and make the coffee. When you sit down to work the darned
thing refuses to work properly. Only then do you think "I wonder what
got installed"...

As I see it MS are in a difficult situation. I do not know if there's a
warning during the start of install.

 

[webster72n]

I didn`t need to disable - Comodo and Avast , among others

 

[Peter Foldes]

+Bob+

The reason for this as I described is that the AV and Security manufacturers have
not yet made their product fully compatible with IE8. Since we do not know who has
what when they are downloading and installing IE8, that is a General precaution
(step(s to be taken )) that should be taken by OP's downloading and installing IE8.
Although most if not all AV and Security suites do work correctly they are still
recognizing new files (like scripts, cab etc ) in IE as not known and therefore they
flag them and delete them and hence the instructions as to why I posted that info.
It avoids a whole bunch of issues from IE not working and a multitude of problems as
you see being posted

 

[+Bob+]

+Bob+

The reason for this as I described is that the AV and Security manufacturers have
not yet made their product fully compatible with IE8. Since we do not know who has
what when they are downloading and installing IE8, that is a General precaution
(step(s to be taken )) that should be taken by OP's downloading and installing IE8.
Although most if not all AV and Security suites do work correctly they are still
recognizing new files (like scripts, cab etc ) in IE as not known and therefore they
flag them and delete them and hence the instructions as to why I posted that info.
It avoids a whole bunch of issues from IE not working and a multitude of problems as
you see being posted
--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

I agree that it's not a bad idea - but if it's a requirement, or even
a strong recommendation for most users, MS needs to promote it as so.
As usual, they seem to have taken the view that the world is the same
as their controlled testing conditions and it clearly is not. They
typically take this view because promoting the software (whatever it
is) is in line with their profit plans regardless of a small, but
numerically significant portion of their users who will encounter
problems. As you note... demonstrated by the posts here.