IE Edit Icon

[Joe Rohn]

Hi Stefan,

Yes and thanks for that! That would explain server-side settings. I do
believe though there is probably something client-side in an IE setting that
makes some of what is available different on different computers.

It might be better if I take this to the IE group..as in the end it doesn't
appear as if it is really a FrontPage issue,

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Joe

Microsoft MVP FrontPage

FrontPage Users Forums:
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See my response below - IIS setting

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| Hi Folks,
|
| Yes my real intent was to try and understand if there are absolute
| definitions around when the IE Edit with FP Icon *should* be available.
I am
| beginning to think that there really aren't absolutes around this. (Or
if
| there are.for some reason it isn't consistent from computer to computer)
My
| guess at this point is that it might be related to a different security
| level, cookies, or some other setting in IE (rather than anything
directly
| in FrontPage) I appreciate everyone's input! It certainly is not a huge
| problem to me..more just one of interest!
|
| Thanks!
|
| --
| Joe
|
| Microsoft MVP FrontPage
|
| FrontPage Users Forums:
| http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
|
| | > Of course it is not possible to see the actual source of a ASP page
unless
| > you have the login info, but the IE Edit with FP link is still
available.
| > If I understood Joe correctly, he is not always seeing the IE Edit
with FP
| > link.
| >
| > Whether it is a site that you have login info or not, the IE Edit with
FP
| > link should appear unless the it is disable via a setting on the
server.
| > See Stefan's post.
| >
| > --
| > ==============================================
| > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > ==============================================
| > If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| > a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| > Microsoft Product Support Services:
| > http://support.microsoft.com
| > If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| > security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| > ==============================================
| >
| > | >> Have you done this with a web site that is not yours?
| >> If it is your web site, then yes, you can edit an .asp page, but
again,
| >> when
| >> you edit it you will not see the asp content.. only the page with the
| >> script
| >> to get the content. (Right? as it would be in your FrontPage web)
| >> I don't really think this is important enough to argue about.
| >>
| >> T
| >> | >> |I have no problems use the Edit in IE link with .asp that have or do
not
| >> have server-side code.
| >> |
| >> | --
| >> | ==============================================
| >> | Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| >> | ==============================================
| >> | If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| >> | a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| >> | Microsoft Product Support Services:
| >> | http://support.microsoft.com
| >> | If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| >> | security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| >> | ==============================================
| >> |
| >> | >> | > The cut off is as soon as the page contains "any" content from
server
| >> side
| >> | > scripting.
| >> | > If it is just a link to another .asp page, that will filter the
data
| >> and
| >> | > display it, then the page only contains HTML and can be edited
even
| >> if
| >> using
| >> | > the .asp extension.
| >> | > The moment the page contains any content, say a dropdown list
that is
| >> | > populated with choices from a database then the answer is it
can't be
| >> | > done....
| >> | > But, as with everything, there are some exceptions.
| >> | > Even then the content from the database on that page will not be
| >> editable.
| >> | > (or even there)
| >> | >
| >> | > This is just from experiences I have had with the same situation.
| >> | >
| >> | > T
| >> | > | >> | > | Hi Tom,
| >> | > |
| >> | > | What you stated would be exactly what I thought as well...But I
| >> think
| >> it
| >> | > | might come down to "normal" HTML content...vs. true .asp code
on a
| >> page.
| >> | > For
| >> | > | example here's a page on a site I am working on for my wife.
| >> | > |
| >> | > | http://www.giftsbymelitta.com/default.asp
| >> | > |
| >> | > | At this point it doesn't have any .asp content in it really.
(It
| >> will
| >> soon
| >> | > | though which is why I have given it an .asp extension) Right
now
| >> just
| >> good
| >> | > | old html with an .asp extension..but it will open with the Edit
| >> Icon
| >> in
| >> | > IE.
| >> | > | So the question in my mind is still...where's the cutoff point?
| >> | > |
| >> | > | --
| >> | > | Joe
| >> | > |
| >> | > | Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| >> | > |
| >> | > | FrontPage Users Forums:
| >> | > | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| >> | > |
| >> | > | | >> | > | > The edit Icon is only visible "after" the entire page has
loaded.
| >> | > | >
| >> | > | > In the case of an .asp page... How can you edit something
that
| >> don't
| >> | > | > exist.
| >> | > | > The whole page is made on the server side via scripting and
the
| >> | > | > information
| >> | > | > from a database (or other) is then inserted in the proper
place.
| >> Since
| >> | > | > the
| >> | > | > page (as viewed) is not on the server for you to download and
| >> edit,
| >> it
| >> | > | > can't
| >> | > | > be done.
| >> | > | >
| >> | > | > Just a thought.....
| >> | > | >
| >> | > | > T
| >> | > | > | >> | > | > | Thanks Tom,
| >> | > | > |
| >> | > | > | It's baffling... there are a number us running into
different
| >> issues
| >> | > | > with
| >> | > | > | this..For some (confirmed on multiple computers) we cannot
see
| >> the
| >> | > edit
| >> | > | > with
| >> | > | > | IE Icon on even .htm pages (but only sometimes as others
have
| >> no
| >> | > | > problems
| >> | > | > | with those same .htm pages.) Even those that cannot see the
| >> icon
| >> on
| >> | > | > certain
| >> | > | > | .htm pages..can get it on others. Doing the cleaning up of
IE
| >> and
| >> FP
| >> | > tmp
| >> | > | > | files does not seem to help. There are others that cannot
see
| >> any
| >> .asp
| >> | > | > pages
| >> | > | > | that way..while others can see some. Very strange.
| >> | > | > |
| >> | > | > | --
| >> | > | > | Joe
| >> | > | > |
| >> | > | > | Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| >> | > | > |
| >> | > | > | FrontPage Users Forums:
| >> | > | > | http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| >> | > | > |
| >> | > | > | | >> | > | > | > No Edit with FP link in IE for the indicated URL.
| >> | > | > | >
| >> | > | > | > --
| >> | > | > | > ==============================================
| >> | > | > | > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| >> | > | > | > ==============================================
| >> | > | > | > If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| >> | > | > | > a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| >> | > | > | > Microsoft Product Support Services:
| >> | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com
| >> | > | > | > If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| >> | > | > | > security update, then there is usually no charge for the
| >> call.
| >> | > | > | > ==============================================
| >> | > | > | >
| >> | > | > | > | >> | > | > | >> Thanks Steve..I went through that scenario..but still no
| >> joy.
| >> What
| >> | > is
| >> | > | > | >> really strange is the icon became "lit" for a
second..but
| >> the
| >> | > | > dropdown
| >> | > | > | >> wouldn't do anything..it then went gray again while I
was
| >> watching.
| >> | > | > That
| >> | > | > | >> all happened on this page:
| >> | > | > | >>
| >> | > | > | >> http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage/default.asp
| >> | > | > | >>
| >> | > | > | >> If you have a moment could you (or anyone else for that
| >> matter)
| >> | > | > please
| >> | > | > | >> see if the IE Edit icon works for you on that page? At
least
| >> that
| >> | > | > might
| >> | > | > | >> help me to narrow it down more..
| >> | > | > | >>
| >> | > | > | >> Just Weird..Maybe it is Thanksgiving Gremlins!
| >> | > | > | >>
| >> | > | > | >> --
| >> | > | > | >> Joe
| >> | > | > | >>
| >> | > | > | >> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| >> | > | > | >>
| >> | > | > | >> FrontPage Users Forums:
| >> | > | > | >> http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| >> | > | > | >>
| >> | > | > | >> | >> | > | > | >>> Check the "Open with" entry in file types for the asp
file
| >> | > | > extensions
| >> | > | > | >>> My Computer > Tools > Folder Options > File types.
| >> | > | > | >>>
| >> | > | > | >>> Click once on ASP and then click advanced.
| >> | > | > | >>> In the "Edit file type" dialog you should see:
| >> | > | > | >>> Active Server Document as the file type and Edit listed
| >> under
| >> | > | > Actions:
| >> | > | > | >>> Click once on Edit in the Action section to select it
and
| >> then
| >> | > click
| >> | > | > the
| >> | > | > | >>> Edit button on the
| >> | > | > | >>> dialog.
| >> | > | > | >>> Under "Application use to perform action:" you should
see:
| >> | > | > | >>>
| >> | > | > | >>> "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\OFFICE11\FRONTPG.EXE"
| >> "%1"
| >> | > | > | >>> for FrontPage 2003
| >> | > | > | >>> or
| >> | > | > | >>> "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\OFFICE10\FRONTPG.EXE"
| >> "%1"
| >> | > | > | >>> for FrontPage 2002.
| >> | > | > | >>>
| >> | > | > | >>>
| >> | > | > | >>> --
| >> | > | > | >>> Steve Easton
| >> | > | > | >>> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| >> | > | > | >>> 95isalive
| >> | > | > | >>> This site is best viewed..................
| >> | > | > | >>> ..............................with a computer
| >> | > | > | >>>
message
| >> | > | > | >>> | >> | > | > | >>>> Hi Folks,
| >> | > | > | >>>>
| >> | > | > | >>>> I think the question about the Edit Icon being grayed
out
| >> in
| >> | > | > Internet
| >> | > | > | >>>> Explorer..has been asked about a million times. I
think
| >> pretty
| >> | > much
| >> | > | > the
| >> | > | > | >>>> answer has come back a million times that deleting
temp
| >> internet
| >> | > | > files,
| >> | > | > | >>>> etc.
| >> | > | > | >>>> would clear that up. And every time I in fact tried
that
| >> it
| >> | > worked
| >> | > | > | >>>> (until
| >> | > | > | >>>> now) I have been scrounging Google, the Microsoft KB,
etc.
| >> trying
| >> | > | > to
| >> | > | > | >>>> find
| >> | > | > | >>>> out more about this situation..but not succeeding very
| >> well.
| >> I
| >> | > | > thought
| >> | > | > | >>>> maybe
| >> | > | > | >>>> cookies might be a cause..but I basically turned
security
| >> totally
| >> | > | > off
| >> | > | > | >>>> on
| >> | > | > | >>>> IE..no change there. What is strange is that I have
pages
| >> even on
| >> | > | > my
| >> | > | > | >>>> own
| >> | > | > | >>>> sites where the edit icon will work..and other pages
where
| >> it
| >> | > won't
| >> | > | > | >>>> (usually
| >> | > | > | >>>> .asp pages)
| >> | > | > | >>>>
| >> | > | > | >>>> Anyone have any ideas? A FrontPage setting? An IE
Setting?
| >> | > | > | >>>>
| >> | > | > | >>>> For all my U.S. friends..have a Great Thanksgiving!

| >> | > | > | >>>>
| >> | > | > | >>>> --
| >> | > | > | >>>> Joe
| >> | > | > | >>>>
| >> | > | > | >>>> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| >> | > | > | >>>>
| >> | > | > | >>>> FrontPage Users Forums:
| >> | > | > | >>>> http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
| >> | > | > | >>>>
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