I really, really, hate when this happens ...

[Warren C. E. Austin]

.... stomps feet repeated and firmly on the ground, throwing temper tantrum, arms wildly gesticulating in the air ...

with that over and one with, my problem:

I used Windows Update for the first time in several months this morning after reading the message posted in this NewsGroup about there now NOT GOING TO BE any Service Pack 5 for Windows'2000.

I downloaded 14 Critical Updates and 1 other, all of which encompassed the only ones currently available from the menu.

13 Updates installed, no problem, with two having failed, and my being advised to run them again after rebooting. The offending Updates were the Journal GDI Update (which installed just fine the second go round) and the DOT.NET SP1 which continues to fail after repeated attempts.

I plan on doing this all over again, having only moments ago restored my system state to 00:00 Hrs this morning, and well before having attempted to use Windows Update at all.

ONE problem lingers after the system restore, and this more than anything else, causes me to loose it:

I personally DO NOT WANT TO USE, and refuse to use, Internet Explorer for my Windows File Manager. Period.

Firstly, that said, "How do I restore the original Windows Explorer?", thus enabling my ability to set the "two-pane" folders view, without all the gew-gaws and other graphical bulls**t.

And secondly, "Which of the current crop of Critical Updates DO I AVOID installing?", so this does not happen to me again.

I apologize for my anger, but it pi**es me off no end when someone (I've never heard of or met) takes it upon themselves to tell me how I want to run my system, and changes thingies around without at least asking first.

By the way, with Microsoft having decided in their greater wisdom that I (and Lord only knows how many others just like me) do not want Service Pack 5, have they also decided for me that after my having invested in the neighbourhood of several grand in Windows'2003 that I do not want Service Pack 1 to that either?

Warren C. E. Austin
Toronto, Canada

 

[Stanley Jones [MSFT]]

Service Pack 1 for Windows Server 2003 is currently in development. As for
the updates to 2000, you should read each of them in detail and/or install
one at a time in order to determine which ones best suit your wants. I'm
sorry for the problems you experienced.

 

[Stanley Jones [MSFT]]

Service Pack 1 for Windows Server 2003 is currently in development. As for
the updates to 2000, you should read each of them in detail and/or install
one at a time in order to determine which ones best suit your wants. I'm
sorry for the problems you experienced.

 

[Stanley Jones [MSFT]]

Service Pack 1 for Windows Server 2003 is currently in development. As for
the updates to 2000, you should read each of them in detail and/or install
one at a time in order to determine which ones best suit your wants. I'm
sorry for the problems you experienced.

 

[Warren C. E. Austin]

Service Pack 1 for Windows Server 2003 is currently in development. As for
the updates to 2000, you should read each of them in detail and/or install
one at a time in order to determine which ones best suit your wants. I'm
sorry for the problems you experienced.

.... thank you for responding.

I sincerely hope Service Pack 1 for Windows'2003 is forthcoming; and I would hope Microsoft re-thinks it's position on Service Pack 5 for Windows'2000.

Many small users of Windows'2000 really do prefer the omnibus combined Service Pack approach for applying patches and updates; especially as allowing that we often slipstream each release , burning new "Production" CD-ROM's for Repair and System Restore purposes, and occasionally for required re-installs when system failure occurs. These slipstreamed CD's dramatically reduce the time involved in resolving problems. Slipstreaming individual Patches and Updates, whilst technically possible, or so I'm led to believe, is not the answer.

Unfortunately, I really do need to know how TO RESTORE the "two-pane" (with directory-tree in the left, folders and files in the right) view in Explorer. I suspect it was one or the other of two IE6 Patches (Q833989 and Q889923) applied that has buggered this up for me, and frankly it is not acceptable. I do not use Internet Explorer (nor Outlook or Outlook Express) for anything on my system other than Windows Update (if it can at all be avoided), and that only because I have no other alternative. Otherwise I would remove them entirely from the system.

Your help here would be greatly appreciated.

Warren C. E. Austin
Toronto, Canada

 

[Stanley Jones [MSFT]]

Lets try the obvious first: Are you sure you can't just use the View menu up
top to select that you want the Explorer Bar in Folders view to appear? I'm
looking into other solutions

 

[Rick]

... thank you for responding.

I sincerely hope Service Pack 1 for Windows'2003 is forthcoming; and I would hope Microsoft re-thinks it's position on Service

Pack 5 for Windows'2000.

They eventually will. Most of the corporate world are still on Win2K,
and are awaiting any further server upgrades until Longhorn is released
in 2006. Considering the number of problems introduced in SP4 it
would be unthinkable for MS to not release a SP5.

 

[Anders Eriksson]

Attached for your viewing pleasure is what I currently am have to endure
for the Windows Explorer, either by clicking the shortcut or from the
run command. This IS NOT what I had less than 12-hours ago before
allowing Windows Update to download and install some 15 patches.

It seems like you have (or the computer have) changed to web view. There is
probably an error in the Web view template that makes the Folder tree not
showing.

Try this:

Tools - Folder Options - General - Restore Defaults

and (maybe you also need to do this)

Tools - Folder Options - View - Restore Defaults

It is rather strange that Windows Update did this. I have used Windows
Update for many years now and always updated everything it wanted, never
heard of this problem...

// Anders

 

[Warren C. E. Austin]

It seems like you have (or the computer have) changed to web view. There is
probably an error in the Web view template that makes the Folder tree not
showing.

Try this:

Tools - Folder Options - General - Restore Defaults

and (maybe you also need to do this)

Tools - Folder Options - View - Restore Defaults

It is rather strange that Windows Update did this. I have used Windows
Update for many years now and always updated everything it wanted, never
heard of this problem...

// Anders

Trust me, I've never seen anything quite like this either; but I have known other problems to surface from time to time when using Windows Update (always changes to the GUI appearance, none of which had been authorized); but, I have always been able to to recover from these difficulties; apparently not this time.

Your suggestion that some template might be damaged sounds good to me ... now how do I recover from this?

I would like to be able to resolve this issue before again attempting to apply the downloaded Patches which I have archived, so timing is not at all critical here. As mentioned, immediately after this problem became known to me (within minutes of the re-boot from Windows Update), I, first attempted to correct Windows Explorer's setting; but once it became apparent nothing was working, I restored my system state to a point approximately 12-hours before having run Windows Update yesterday morning. Theoretically, had something been written to the Registry that was causing this, reverting to an earlier (and fully functioning) System state prior to using Windows Update should have resolved it. As you see, it did not.

Warren C. E. Austin
Toronto, Canada

 

[John John]

Are you using Windows 2000 or Windows XP? In any case, try repairing
your Internet Explorer in the Control Panel Add/Remove Programs.

John

 

[John John]

Glad to see you've got it fixed.

John

 

[TBONE]

*.... stomps feet repeated and firmly on the ground, throwing tempe
tantrum, arms wildly gesticulating in the air ...

with that over and one with, my problem:

I used Windows Update for the first time in several months thi
morning after reading the message posted in this NewsGroup abou
there now NOT GOING TO BE any Service Pack 5 for Windows'2000.

I downloaded 14 Critical Updates and 1 other, all of whic
encompassed the only ones currently available from the menu.

13 Updates installed, no problem, with two having failed, and m
being advised to run them again after rebooting. The offendin
Updates were the Journal GDI Update (which installed just fine th
second go round) and the DOT.NET SP1 which continues to fail
after repeated attempts.

I plan on doing this all over again, having only moments ago restore
my system state to 00:00 Hrs this morning, and well before havin
attempted to use Windows Update at all.

ONE problem lingers after the system restore, and this more tha
anything else, causes me to loose it:

I personally DO NOT WANT TO USE, and refuse to use, Internet Explore
for my Windows File Manager. Period.

Firstly, that said, "How do I restore the original Window
Explorer?", thus enabling my ability to set the "two-pane" folder
view, without all the gew-gaws and other graphical bulls**t.

And secondly, "Which of the current crop of Critical Updates DO
AVOID installing?", so this does not happen to me again.

I apologize for my anger, but it pi**es me off no end when someon
(I've never heard of or met) takes it upon themselves to tell me ho
I want to run my system, and changes thingies around without at leas
asking first.

By the way, with Microsoft having decided in their greater wisdo
that I (and Lord only knows how many others just like me) do not wan
Service Pack 5, have they also decided for me that after my havin
invested in the neighbourhood of several grand in Wi
ndows'2003 that I do not want Service Pack 1 to that either?

Warren C. E. Austin
Toronto, Canada

-
TBON