I really need Help??

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Guest

Where to begin ok here it goes, I have a Panasonic mini DV camera. We have
created our movie in movie maker with all the bells and whistles and we are
unable to record it back to the camera to then transfer it to VHS.

Can someone please help?

I have tried several things. Like converting the movie to Mpeg, and all that
stuff but the movie comes up not recored. It looks like it is going through
the recording
process bit nothing happens.

What else can I tell you: I am as well using firewire. My note Book is a
Compaq 2195. I have even used the program Blaze MediaPro to convert the MVi
to Mpeg in serveral diferent ways. With and without SVG extensions with DVD
extensions with mpeg2 I have treid all of these and still the blue screen.
The closest I came to getting it recoreded was to be able to play it on the
note Book on a cd. I am needing to get it to VHS as the person the movie is
for does not have a DVD or
computer. :(

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TIA
 
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PapaJohn \(MVP\)

can you save it OK to your hard drive as a DV-AVI file?

then try the WinDV and/or DVIO utility to copy it from your hard drive to
the camcorder... see the Digital Camcorders > Intro page of my site for a
link... just a little ways down the page.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
Photo Story 3 - use the menu branch at www.papajohn.org

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J

Jeffraham Prestonian

PapaJohn (MVP) said:
then try the WinDV and/or DVIO utility to copy it from your hard drive to
the camcorder... see the Digital Camcorders > Intro page of my site for a
link... just a little ways down the page.

Oh sure -- you're just trying to sell her something!

*ducks*

Yankin' yer chain, man... makin' light of the looneys...
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J

Jeffraham Prestonian

PapaJohn (MVP) said:
I don't sell WinDV or DVIO, and the info on my site is free and open to
all.....

Jab if you want to, but how about balancing that with something positive
for
the poster?

Um, set phasers back to stun, Mr. Sulu -- I WAS
JOKING!

(hence the "looneys" comment)
..
 
J

John Kelly

ON-LINE COMPANION to BOOK SOLD BY PAPAJOHN IS FREE, but of no use unless you
buy the book and fill his pockets


LOLOLOLOL
 
J

John Kelly

Hello,

You have to go where his buddies are...... moviemakers.net then he will KNOW
you are a friend.....

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Jeffraham Prestonian

John Kelly said:
You have to go where his buddies are...... moviemakers.net then he will
KNOW
you are a friend.....

John -- don't get me wrong, here, but I see you
railing against folks like John for pointing people to
his site. I just don't understand that, because he
offers a free service which can be helpful (in fact,
it has been, to me), regardless of whatever commercial
ventures he also has going on. I never had to pay to
check the site, and it never occurred to me to buy
John's book(s) ahead of anyone else's (I've found a
lot of helpful sites, and came to the conclusion that
I've reached the capable limits of MM2, I should add).
..
 
J

John Kelly

Hello,

There are a good many things you do not know that would I am sure give you
pause on whether you should have made your comment at all.

There are just two folks that I take exception 2...I have no idea what you have
been told and frankly do not care as I have the experience of popejohn and his
bully boys together with the mythical people they like to quote. None of them
have stood the test of time. As for the only other person, he's a clown....one
of those people who hears one word, reads the usual toytown description of that
word and becomes an instant expert. The advice he gives is more often wrong
than right and when it is sort of right it is couched in terms and expressions
that are often not related to the subject at hand....

I will repeat the breakdown of reasons if you invite me to do so. He nor Rehan
will thank you for that of course.

In the meantime, every time He lies I will bring it to the attention of all.
(He did that at least once in an attempt to prove that he must therefore be
right....it was a situation much like the one you had with him today...it does
not matter how many times you are trying to help him, he reacts as though you
were his enemy....he did it to me several times too many). Every time he tries
to earn money by abusing his position here, I will bring THAT to the attention
of others. Every time he gives bad advice I will bring that to the attention of
others. Every time he pinches some one else's work and attempts to use that to
bolster his position, that will also be commented on and every time some one
takes advice from his website and because that advice is bad asks for more help
and instead receives a smug, "Its at your own risk" type of reply I will
comment on that too and if he pinches some one else's work and puts it on his
website that is dangerous and ill advised (remembering that a lot of people who
visit his site have below average abilities in that area and no slight is
intended their) and in particular where he has no clue about the subject matter
anyway, I will comment on that as well, and finally, if he comes any where near
the condescending attitude he sometimes displays...comment will be passed their
as well.

He makes ridiculous statements that are intended to steer people in one
particular direction (often away from a suggestion of mine), when all he
actually does is make himself...the MVP look like a total pratt...I enjoy those
times I have to admit, its all the more funny because he keeps doing it.

Check this out...this is my hard drive right now

List of the 53 most fragmented files and directories
# of Fragments File size File/Directory Name
21 56.2 MB C:\Program Files\NewsRover\Projects\723\New.rov
13 1.1 MB C:\Program Files\NeoTracePro\Data\NeoCache.ini
10 0.4 MB C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\Layout.ini
9 0.4 MB C:\WINDOWS\PCHealth\HelpCtr\DataColl\CollectedData_3693.xml
8 0.1 MB C:\Documents and Settings\John Kelly\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5\IN2REFG7
8 4.3 MB C:\OE\Inbox.dbx
6 0.0 MB C:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-2996918446-1533316248-997618623-1005\INFO2
5 0.1 MB C:\WINDOWS\PCHealth\HelpCtr\DataColl\CollectedData_3697.xml
5 0.1 MB C:\Program Files\NewsRover\Projects\6\New.rov
4 0.1 MB C:\WINDOWS\PCHealth\HelpCtr\DataColl\CollectedData_3675.xml
4 0.2 MB C:\WINDOWS\PCHealth\HelpCtr\DataColl\CollectedData_3695.xml
4 0.1 MB C:\Documents and Settings\John Kelly\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5\4PQ7WPUV
4 0.5 MB C:\Documents and Settings\John Kelly\Local
Settings\History\History.IE5\index.dat
3 0.1
MB C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\CONFIG\security.config.cch
3 0.4 MB C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
Data\Raxco\PerfectDisk\6.0\PerfectDisk.log

That's before I do the defragment ...waiting now for the defrag to finish. There
you go...this is after the defrag.

List of the 2 most fragmented files and directories
# of Fragments File size File/Directory Name
2 0.1 MB C:\$Secure:$SII
2 0.7 MB C:\WINDOWS\PCHealth\HelpCtr\Binaries\helpctr.exe


List of Excluded Files (Directories not included)
Reason File Name (Directories not included) Excess Fragments
Access denied C:\pagefile.sys 0

So, when a Microsoft Valued Professional in an enthusiastic way blows the thank
you I got out of the water from someone who was pleased with my suggestion,
with a remark that after MANY HOURS and when the program had finished he still
had something like THIRTY TWO THOUSAND fragments in just one of his files.
Would you think...OH perhaps the advice given was not that good then...or would
you think....don't trust these MVP's they never get it right, or would you
think if a regular caller in here...This MVP is not to be trusted

You will note the time difference between your message and my reply, obviously
it would not be that quick when running the program for the first time. I am
sure he will come up with some glib excuse...its been my experience that these
people do...but at the end of the day, would a PROFESSIONAL have submitted his
remarks in the first place?

Anyway, thanks for your input, it lacks the full true history and is correctly
worded because of that and no doubt one of HIS back channels as he likes to
call it.

I think the above covers it...I will continue to put him right and warn others
of his money making enterprises and his commercial website which is based on
flimsy non repeatable examples or simply wrong information which has been put
together by a person, in his own words, is NOT QUALIFIED TO COMMENT ON

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J

Jeffraham Prestonian

John Kelly said:
There are a good many things you do not know that would I am sure give you
pause on whether you should have made your comment at all.

Your point on my not knowing the history between
you and John is spot-on -- I don't. I'm guessing that
most who visit here are like me: coming here to try
to solve a problem. I'm guessing they are similarly
uninformed.

So, we who are uninformed are seeing what looks
like a pissing match between two guys, one of which
spends an awful lot of time trying to convince
everyone else that the other guy is incompetant and
ethically challenged.

That's the view from those who do not know -- or
much care -- about the history behind it all.
..
 
J

John Kelly

Hey

Your point on my not knowing the history between
you and John is spot-on -- I don't. I'm guessing that
most who visit here are like me: coming here to try
to solve a problem. I'm guessing they are similarly
uninformed.

Oh well I suppose they are...but the whole point is, because they are
uninformed they are taking advice that falls somewhere between STUPID to
DANGEROUS...and if some one does not make sure they know this, and at the same
time makes sure that Microsoft are aware as well, they will continue to take
that bad advice and as some of them find themselves having to do...come back
and ask for more advice in the hope things will be straightened out. Papajohns
last known reply to some one in those circumstances made comment along the
lines of "its their problem" and "I am not qualified on that subject" If the
public are not made aware of all of this, how are they going to properly
evaluate the advice and whether to proceed on it or not?
So, we who are uninformed are seeing what looks
like a pissing match between two guys, one of which
spends an awful lot of time trying to convince
everyone else that the other guy is incompetant and
ethically challenged.

No sorry, I do not agree at all.. I do not have to spend much time as a
rule...his remarks are so ridiculous they almost speak for themselves...and as
far as my explanation goes...I gave more than I would normally give because you
asked for it. And as far as trying to convince goes...the example I gave is in
this newsgroup...it happened a couple of weeks or so back...its all there for
you to see...I do not need to employ others to persuade every one that "this"
is the real truth...go and check it out for yourself, and I definitely do not
need others to fight in my corner for the want of a better way to describe it
That's the view from those who do not know -- or
much care -- about the history behind it all.

So why have you passed comments...was it morons or idiots...I forget which.,
and if you really do not care, why bother to involve yourself? I can't quite
see the rationale here. On one hand you want everyone to think you do not care
and then on the other get yourself embroiled in the situation.

In the meantime, I will continue warning newcomers who do not know better that
any bad advice given is exactly that...and if needs be, follow it up with
previous bad advice examples to strengthen the point being made. There is a
very good solution to the constant messages from me about why...he can always
stop acting the way he does, and he can stop asking others to help him
out....many have tried...some have eventually stooped to the use of bad
language...even MVP's, he has even had people from microsoft try and defend
him...all of them without exception made them selves look very silly....some
eventually got spoken to by others at Microsoft and they instantly
vanished....you see, there are others privy to the "back channels" who also do
not like the situation....the first time Papajohn got wind of that he spent
quite some time looking through the forums on my site...I guess he must have
thought that some one who wanted to remain anonymous would post a public
message on my site for all to read, that was also tried by Rehan...I do believe
he thought I did not know!!!! (That's what comes from being an instant expert)

Just in case you are thinking it...I take no offence at anything you have said,
instead I will say thank you for allowing me the opportunity of explaining the
situation further.

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J

Jeffraham Prestonian

John Kelly said:
Papajohns
last known reply to some one in those circumstances made comment along the
lines of "its their problem" and "I am not qualified on that subject" If
the
public are not made aware of all of this, how are they going to properly
evaluate the advice and whether to proceed on it or not?

I'm guessing the same way *I* do -- burned once,
shame on you; burned twice, shame on *me*.

What I'm saying, I suppose, is that your goal (of
connecting people with better info) are not always
well-served, IMO, by the tenor and tone of some of
your comments. IMO.

IMO.
In the meantime, I will continue warning newcomers who do not know better
that
any bad advice given is exactly that...and if needs be, follow it up with
previous bad advice examples to strengthen the point being made.

I'm not trying to vouch for the quality of anyone's
advice -- and I have no objection to someone's
correcting bad info; I applaud that, in fact.

The only objection (and it is a slight one, at that) I
register is the assigning of motive, and the harsh
personal attacks on someone -- who *may* be
misguided or misinformed at times, but is still basically
trying to give free advice. Whether it is good or bad
advice is probably not *as* important to me (I have
the entire Internets (heh) at my disposal, after all,
and have been working with computers for 25 years),
since the bad info usually falls down on its own, over
time.

In 16 years of Usenet usage, I've seen too many
newsgroups devolve into battlegrounds, used by
"subject matter experts" for dueling purposes. It's
unavoidable, I suppose, to some extent. However,
most of the duelists do not see that their well-
intentioned efforts to protect "the newbies" from
"harm" (and I put "harm" in quotes because we're
normally not talking about life-or-death issues) are
just as likely to result in a massive killfiling as they
are to result in actual aid to those needing it. :)

IOW, I like your technical posts, and think you have
a lot to offer in that respect, but I dislike weeding
through the personal crusades getting to the meat of
the info. :) Please, I hope you will continue to lead
the horses to water... but dunking their heads under
is a bit much! ;)

Offered only as friendly, constructive critique,
respectfully,

-Jeffraham
..
 
J

John Kelly

Hello again,
Or, just whine about those who're doing something,
while your contributions go curiously unobserved.

If it had not been for the above, I would have found in what you said more
recently an encouragment.....by the way, I have been involved in what people
today call the internet (It isn't its just the WWW) a lot longer than 16yrs...I
used to run discussion groups on Janet and have spoken with one of the two
scientists from CERN who originally created the internet (My University days)

Apart from the remarks you made above (Which in my experience are the exact
remarks that start a flame war) you started to use popejohn remarks, I'm sure I
do not need to repeat them...I expect they are in an email from him to you.
Those remarks from papajohn were dismissed some time back and accepted as the
remarks from some one cornered and looking for any way out. I said to him at
the time he is not qualified enough to be able to pass those remarks and
therefore his remarks are just worthless words.

Sorry

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Jeffraham Prestonian

John Kelly said:
If it had not been for the above, I would have found in what you said more
recently an encouragment.....

Uh, yeah. I didn't mean to get into dueling CVs
with you, John -- in fact, I was just trying to
point out that your tenor and tone are not really
helping you, here (that is, *if* I understand why
you are here at all).

Take it, or don't -- it was just a friendly appeal.
..
 
J

John Kelly

Hello,

Uh, yeah. I didn't mean to get into dueling CVs
with you, John -- in fact, I was just trying to
point out that your tenor and tone are not really
helping you, here (that is, *if* I understand why
you are here at all).

There was no dueling of CV's as far as I know...you offered some of yours and I
offered just one of mine, if you did not want me to respond to that point you
should not have made it a theme of that reply. You might get one hell of a
shock if you knew my full CV as might I of yours...I did not previously mention
any of mine because it is not relevant to the discussion

The main thrust of my reply was as follows....

Apart from the remarks you made above (Which in my experience are the exact
remarks that start a flame war) you started to use popejohn remarks, I'm sure I
do not need to repeat them...I expect they are in an email from him to you.
Those remarks from papajohn were dismissed some time back and accepted as the
remarks from some one cornered and looking for any way out. I said to him at
the time he is not qualified enough to be able to pass those remarks and
therefore his remarks are just worthless words.

Or to put it more succinctly....I think that you have entered the realm of the
Pot calling the Kettle black...in other words you are issuing inflammatory
remarks which would easily be regarded as the start of a flame war, and at the
same time complaining that I am ensuring that the remarks from papajohn are
being commented upon properly. Your remarks were...

Your mission (should you choose to accept it):

Go find the discussion/tech support groups untainted
by commercial interests. Come back and share those
links with us, so that we may judge the quality of the
advice given there.

Or, just whine about those who're doing something,
while your contributions go curiously unobserved.

So as I see it at the moment there are two people who take an active dislike in
certain practices, in your reply to the other your remarks were exactly the
type you said you did not like me making...I don't admit to making the type of
reply you are on about by the way So I say again, I do not understand your
rational, unless it is, Its OK for you to do it but not me, can you tell me how
the above reply of yours fits in with the following...
I was just trying to
point out that your tenor and tone are not really
helping you

I have to say that for a short while I thought I was talking to someone with a
reasonable outlook. My previous reply to you was meant to indicate that I see
now that you are not exactly what I first thought and as a result my opinion of
you had fallen....and then I realised that you had started using popejohn
remarks, and that my opinion had consequently fallen a lot.

On the issue of whether its helping me or not....you could not be more wrong if
you tried....I have a very healthy visitor rate to my site and because the
emails to me had got out of hand I have had to block them all...so in a very
smug manner I would like to point out that at this point in time and for the
last 18 months or thereabouts I and my website are doing very well....so YOUR
opinion of what is or is not right seem to be at variance with the facts.

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John Kelly

You make a Joke??? well as far as I can tell YOU ARE A JOKE...Mr. Bozo

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John Kelly

That famous reply...this after attempting to wind several other people
up....it take a Bozo with a Daewooooo to do that

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John Kelly

That's the view from those who do not know -- or
much care -- about the history behind it all.

Oh I see, you have some sort of etherial link and you automatically know
what EVERYONE ELSE thinks....its quite clear from your earlier attempts at
winding others up that the only person with your agenda is you......please
put me in your killfile

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