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Alex Nichol
Papa said:
Because it is included as part of the bundle by most of the OEM
builders, and continues to be recommended by many magazines, whose
'comparative reviews' are way below even suspicion
Because it is included as part of the bundle by most of the OEM
builders, and continues to be recommended by many magazines, whose
'comparative reviews' are way below even suspicion
P
Papa
Alex Nichol said:
I like that phrase "below suspicion". Think I'll use it in my next letter to
the editor of my local newspaper. ;>)
K
Ken Blake
In
I don't know if Alex meant it as a quote or not, but "Below
Suspicion" is the title of a mystery novel by John Dickson Carr.
Papa said:
I don't know if Alex meant it as a quote or not, but "Below
Suspicion" is the title of a mystery novel by John Dickson Carr.
R
RJK
"I really don't think you actually removed 'all' traces of the above. If
you really did, you should be a programer."
What a silly comment !
ummm, I did used to do a little programming in the distant past but, that
wouldn't have helped much !
It only takes a little effort, and forethought ...and just a little
preparation, to FULLY track what's being done to ones PC when installing
software, to be ably to FULLY remove it, and FULLY undo what it did.
....using some features already contained within XP Home (e.g. Backups'
system state), ...a full file listing.
....and a few other handy little utilities.
regards, Richard
you really did, you should be a programer."
What a silly comment !
ummm, I did used to do a little programming in the distant past but, that
wouldn't have helped much !
It only takes a little effort, and forethought ...and just a little
preparation, to FULLY track what's being done to ones PC when installing
software, to be ably to FULLY remove it, and FULLY undo what it did.
....using some features already contained within XP Home (e.g. Backups'
system state), ...a full file listing.
....and a few other handy little utilities.
regards, Richard
B
Buffalo
RJK said:
If you say so.
R
RJK
Well, I DO say so 
...and I say that in a warm, kind, loving way ! I'll
have you know that I've been sitting in front of this thing for over 25
years. (...I think I'll have to go and get a cup of coffee soon !).
....sorry for my "What a silly comment !" retort but, I'd bashed out that
post before I'd really thought about it. I originally used the term
"removed all traces" because that's exactly what I did. Norton software,
like much software from many different software houses, is often provided
with a "token gesture" and woefully inadequate uninstall utility. The
original 'install' is often designed with the accompanying 'uninstall' in
mind, and other tricks so that a previous installation and/or expired trial
can be detected, or re-detected if you prefer, not to mention the mess they
can leave 'ones' dynamic link library files in. (...I can't be bothered to
redo the grammar in that last sentence!). The keyword and golden rule here,
(concerning a particlar application), is "preparation."
regards, Richard
...and I say that in a warm, kind, loving way ! I'llhave you know that I've been sitting in front of this thing for over 25
years. (...I think I'll have to go and get a cup of coffee soon !).
....sorry for my "What a silly comment !" retort but, I'd bashed out that
post before I'd really thought about it. I originally used the term
"removed all traces" because that's exactly what I did. Norton software,
like much software from many different software houses, is often provided
with a "token gesture" and woefully inadequate uninstall utility. The
original 'install' is often designed with the accompanying 'uninstall' in
mind, and other tricks so that a previous installation and/or expired trial
can be detected, or re-detected if you prefer, not to mention the mess they
can leave 'ones' dynamic link library files in. (...I can't be bothered to
redo the grammar in that last sentence!). The keyword and golden rule here,
(concerning a particlar application), is "preparation."
regards, Richard
R
RJK
LOL
I thought I'd have a go with AVAST, and ended up with two little blue balls
! ...in my system tray that spin around now and again. Well, the one
with the "i" on it spins around a lot more than the one with the "a" on it.
.......I'm not sure that I like have one blue ball spinning around faster
than the other one !
Anyway, AVAST seems to be TRIPLICATING lots of my files all over the place
with it's "VRDB" thing !
I'm wondering how much room this is all going to take up, ... and where
they're being stored. ....and on top of that - I hope that a/v software from
cz is trustworthy !
regards, Richard
I thought I'd have a go with AVAST, and ended up with two little blue balls
! ...in my system tray that spin around now and again. Well, the one
with the "i" on it spins around a lot more than the one with the "a" on it.
.......I'm not sure that I like have one blue ball spinning around faster
than the other one !
Anyway, AVAST seems to be TRIPLICATING lots of my files all over the place
with it's "VRDB" thing !
I'm wondering how much room this is all going to take up, ... and where
they're being stored. ....and on top of that - I hope that a/v software from
cz is trustworthy !
regards, Richard
R
Ron Bogart
In
I am - but - it doesn't require that to be able to remove all traces.
Patience and fortitude - always wins out. ;-)
Buffalo said:
I am - but - it doesn't require that to be able to remove all traces.
Patience and fortitude - always wins out. ;-)
S
Superman
RJK said:LOL
I thought I'd have a go with AVAST, and ended up with two little blue balls
! ...in my system tray that spin around now and again. Well, the one
with the "i" on it spins around a lot more than the one with the "a" on it.
......I'm not sure that I like have one blue ball spinning around faster
than the other one !
Anyway, AVAST seems to be TRIPLICATING lots of my files all over the place
with it's "VRDB" thing !
I'm wondering how much room this is all going to take up, ... and where
they're being stored. ....and on top of that - I hope that a/v software from
cz is trustworthy !
regards, Richard
I've been through several antiviruses - VET, InoculateIT, Norton and I'm now
on AVG. On the whole, I like AVG (it too is from cz). Of the lot, only
Norton I felt to be useless. I found I was spotting the viruses way before
Norton was. As such, I feel Norton was a waste of money. I'm much happier
with AVG. Long may its success with v7 continue.
C
CS
There is a setting in AVAST to make the two spinning ICONs into one
ICON. Also, you can turn off the VRDB in options. All that does is
save a "database" of your files. You can also turn off the annoying
sounds AVAST makes when it updates itself.-
ICON. Also, you can turn off the VRDB in options. All that does is
save a "database" of your files. You can also turn off the annoying
sounds AVAST makes when it updates itself.-
B
Buffalo
RJK said:Well, I DO say so
have you know that I've been sitting in front of this thing for over 25
years. (...I think I'll have to go and get a cup of coffee soon !).
...sorry for my "What a silly comment !" retort but, I'd bashed out that
post before I'd really thought about it. I originally used the term
"removed all traces" because that's exactly what I did. Norton software,
like much software from many different software houses, is often provided
with a "token gesture" and woefully inadequate uninstall utility. The
original 'install' is often designed with the accompanying 'uninstall' in
mind, and other tricks so that a previous installation and/or expired trial
can be detected, or re-detected if you prefer, not to mention the mess they
can leave 'ones' dynamic link library files in. (...I can't be bothered to
redo the grammar in that last sentence!). The keyword and golden rule here,
(concerning a particlar application), is "preparation."
regards, Richard
It was a tongue in cheek comment.
Most people complain that it is almost impossible to 'completely' remove Norton
? without a format.
Sorry to sound so condescending.
PS: Sometimes it is very difficult to use a program that takes a 'snapshot' of
your HDD before you install a new 'invasive' program such as some of the Norton
programs or other firewall or anti-virus programs while installing off a CD. I
use Total Uninstall and it seems to do a very complete job.
Merry Christmas.
B
Buffalo
Ron Bogart said:
Apologies,
I was having a bad night.
D
Dan
I guess it comes down to each person their own anti-virus program --- it
will be interesting to see how Microsoft does if they do indeed get
involved in making anti-virus software
will be interesting to see how Microsoft does if they do indeed get
involved in making anti-virus software
J
jazz
Isn't that a little much to ask when the products are still names "nortan"
antivirus and such?
antivirus and such?
P
PCR
Absolutely, if it's called something like "Norton", then let us boil
Peter in oil!
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
| Isn't that a little much to ask when the products are still names
"nortan"
| antivirus and such?
|
| | >
| > | > > In | > > Bill in Co. <[email protected]> typed:
| > >
| > > > The real tragedy is that the Norton stuff used to be SO good,
| > > > back in
| > > > the DOS days, and he (apparently) "sold out". Guess he
| > > > doesn't
| > > > care, as long as the bucks keep coming in.
| > >
| > >
| > > If by "he," you mean Peter Norton, note that it's been many years
| > > since he's had anything to do with any of the products which bear
| > > his name. He sold out to Symantec years ago, and is now retired
| > > and very wealthy. The bucks keep coming in to him, but from his
| > > investments, not from the sale of "Norton" products.
| > >
| > > --
| > > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
| > > Please reply to the newsgroup
| > >
| > >
| > Pete sold his picture and rights to use his name with Symantec Corp.
| before
| > he left the company almost 10 years ago. He wrote many PC software
books,
| > and independent consulting since. Yes, he finally retired.
| >
| > Peter Norton doesn't tick me off, its Symantec Corp's internet and
utility
| > software. What ticks me off even more are idiots that continue to
refer
| to
| > these products as "Norton". It shows total ignorance, and deflects
the
| > product responsibility from its originator.
| SYMANTEC...SYMANTEC...SYMANTEC
| >
| >
|
|
Peter in oil!
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
| Isn't that a little much to ask when the products are still names
"nortan"
| antivirus and such?
|
| | >
| > | > > In | > > Bill in Co. <[email protected]> typed:
| > >
| > > > The real tragedy is that the Norton stuff used to be SO good,
| > > > back in
| > > > the DOS days, and he (apparently) "sold out". Guess he
| > > > doesn't
| > > > care, as long as the bucks keep coming in.
| > >
| > >
| > > If by "he," you mean Peter Norton, note that it's been many years
| > > since he's had anything to do with any of the products which bear
| > > his name. He sold out to Symantec years ago, and is now retired
| > > and very wealthy. The bucks keep coming in to him, but from his
| > > investments, not from the sale of "Norton" products.
| > >
| > > --
| > > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
| > > Please reply to the newsgroup
| > >
| > >
| > Pete sold his picture and rights to use his name with Symantec Corp.
| before
| > he left the company almost 10 years ago. He wrote many PC software
books,
| > and independent consulting since. Yes, he finally retired.
| >
| > Peter Norton doesn't tick me off, its Symantec Corp's internet and
utility
| > software. What ticks me off even more are idiots that continue to
refer
| to
| > these products as "Norton". It shows total ignorance, and deflects
the
| > product responsibility from its originator.
| SYMANTEC...SYMANTEC...SYMANTEC
| >
| >
|
|
N
Nigel Stapley
jazz said:
If your cat decided to have her kittens in the stove, that wouldn't make
them 'cakes' would it?
--
Regards
Nigel Stapley
www.judgemental.plus.com
<reply-to will bounce>
B
Buffalo
How dumb.Nigel Stapley said:If your cat decided to have her kittens in the stove, that wouldn't make
them 'cakes' would it?
They would be 'kittles'.
R
RJK
LOL !!
regards, Richard
regards, Richard
Buffalo said:How dumb.
They would be 'kittles'.