I am DEAD

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Guest

I have been getting the Windows could not start because the following file is
missing or corrupt: Windows/System32/CONFIG/SYSTEM message. I tried the
recovery consol solution- didnt work. Tried the md temp thing- I get a
message that says access denied. I do not get the password question when the
recovery console opens either it just starts. I am using raid 0 on my
machine. I need to get the pics of my daughter off this nutty computer or
else my wife said I am DEAD!
Someone please help!!

Thanks in Advance
Mike
 
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Bruce Chambers

mike said:
I have been getting the Windows could not start because the following file is
missing or corrupt: Windows/System32/CONFIG/SYSTEM message. I tried the
recovery consol solution- didnt work. Tried the md temp thing- I get a
message that says access denied. I do not get the password question when the
recovery console opens either it just starts. I am using raid 0 on my
machine. I need to get the pics of my daughter off this nutty computer or
else my wife said I am DEAD!
Someone please help!!

Thanks in Advance
Mike


How to Recover from a Corrupted Registry that Prevents Windows XP from
Starting
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307545

Once you've recovered, you might want to look here, as well:

How to Troubleshoot Registry Corruption Issues
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;822705


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Guest

Thanks for giving it a try Bruce but I cant get past the md temp thing.
Windows says access denied.
 
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Blades

Between the time you log into the Recovery Console and the time you try
md, type: set AllowAllPaths = true
 
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Ayush

Replied to [mike]s message :
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I do not get the password question when the
recovery console opens either it just starts

Maybe because of :
 
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Guest

Ok md tmp does not work for me. windows says access denied...so I looked up
how to get access to it....you have to do that while in windows via the
control panel. If I cant get into windows to do that what else can I do?
HELP!

Thanks

Ayush said:
Replied to [mike]s message :
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I do not get the password question when the
recovery console opens either it just starts

Maybe because of :
 
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Blades

Well, then you're not going to get much use out of the Recovery Console.

Well, I have two options for you:
1) Install the hard drive from that PC into another PC (say the one
you're using now) as a slave. Then you can fix the install, or just copy
the pictures over and be done with it.

2) Download/Install/Use either a Linux CD-bootable distro with NTFS
support, or BartPE. I prefer BartPE, myself. Both are kind of a pain to
set up, though.
 
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JC_101

For the record, I agree- taking it to another computer is the easiest
thing you can do. install it as a slave (make sure jumpers are all
good) and pull the info (Pics) off of it.

Good luck.

The linux CD's would be of great help as well... and may have to be
your coarse if you don't have another machine. but then.... how would
you be posting here? lol.
 
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John John

Does it not ask you at that point (when it goes to to the C:\ prompt) to
select an installation to logon to? Even if you have only one
installation you have to type in a number then press <Enter> to log on
to the installation. In your case, if you only have one Windows you
will probably have to type in the number 1 and then press enter. You
will then be prompted for a password. You should see something like this:

Type 'exit' to leave the command prompt and reboot the system.

1: C:\WINDOWS

Which Windows installation would you like to logon to (enter to abort)?

At that screen you MUST type in the number 1 (or other as seen on the
screen) and press enter. You are not logged in to the installation
until you do so and any attempts to enter commands without logging on
will result in an Access Denied message.

The set AllowAllPaths = true will not work unless you previously enabled
its use in the Local Security Policy. That is a mute point. You have
sufficient access privileges with the standard Recovery Console
permissions without having to enable the Set command. From the Recovery
Console you can access these folders:

- The root folder of any drive
- The %SystemRoot% folder and the subfolders of the Windows installation
you are currently logged on to
- The Cmdcons folder
- Removable media drives such as CD-ROM drives

That is sufficient access rights to carry out the repairs that you were
attempting, there is no need to use the Set command to use the Recovery
Console to repair Windows, all the necessary permissions are already
present.

Fixing an installation on RAID 0 can be touchy business! One misstep
and you may completely lose all the data on both drives, if it isn't
already lost. I'm sure you don't need to hear this but it has to be
said for the benefit of others who might be reading. Keeping valuable
files and data on a hard disc without a backup is not a very smart thing
to do. Not backing up precious data stored on RAID 0 is absolute folly!

Good luck!

John
 
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Shenan Stanley

mike said:
I have been getting the Windows could not start because the
following file is missing or corrupt:
Windows/System32/CONFIG/SYSTEM message. I tried the recovery consol
solution- didnt work. Tried the md temp thing- I get a message that
says access denied. I do not get the password question when the
recovery console opens either it just starts. I am using raid 0 on
my machine. I need to get the pics of my daughter off this nutty
computer or else my wife said I am DEAD! Someone please help!!

Bruce said:
How to Recover from a Corrupted Registry that Prevents Windows XP
from Starting
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307545

Once you've recovered, you might want to look here, as well:

How to Troubleshoot Registry Corruption Issues
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;822705
Thanks for giving it a try Bruce but I cant get past the md temp
thing. Windows says access denied.
Between the time you log into the Recovery Console and the time you
try md, type: set AllowAllPaths = true
Hi Blades....The recovery console does not ask me for a
password...it asks for R for recovery... F3 for escape....and Enter
to continue installing windows. I hit R and it goes right to the
C:\ prompt. Then I do the md thing like windows asks and it says
denied. I did what you said and i got The set command is currently
disabled. The SET command is an optional recovery console that can
only be enabled by using the security configuration and analysis
snap-in. Huh??? HELP!
Well, then you're not going to get much use out of the Recovery
Console.
Well, I have two options for you:
1) Install the hard drive from that PC into another PC (say the one
you're using now) as a slave. Then you can fix the install, or just
copy the pictures over and be done with it.

2) Download/Install/Use either a Linux CD-bootable distro with NTFS
support, or BartPE. I prefer BartPE, myself. Both are kind of a
pain to set up, though.

JC_101 said:
For the record, I agree- taking it to another computer is the
easiest thing you can do. install it as a slave (make sure jumpers
are all good) and pull the info (Pics) off of it.

Good luck.

The linux CD's would be of great help as well... and may have to be
your coarse if you don't have another machine. but then.... how
would you be posting here? lol.

John said:
Bad idea, that is a RAID 0 setup you are talking about.

RAID 0 can mean if one drive of the array fails all data gets lost.
Depends on the level of failure, skill of the end-user, etc...
But if it is severe enough - poof goes the data.

Is this a Hardware RAID?

If so - was Windows XP actually installed on the RAID drives?!
(Bad bad things - RAID 0 - just not work risking everything.)

If it wasn't part of the RAID or you can install another drive and install
Windows XP SP2 and the correct drivers - MAYBE you can access the drives -
depending on what has gone wrong.

I suppose 'zero backups' doesn't start to explain it and 'will be buying an
external drive soon and making a backup schedule' is the future...

If it is a hardware RAID - and the hardware configuration shows no issues
with the RAID itself - and you can get a BARTPE with the right drivers for
the card doing the RAID(maybe whether or not you can) - then you may be able
to boot with BartPE and see the data. Might have to take ownership to copy
it to an external drive/network location - but... Better than nothing.

You could also try making an image of the disk (if hardware RAID) with
something like Ghost and using Ghost Viewer to get to the backed up files.

A lot of that depends on questions not asked...

- Hardware RAID 0?
- What does the hardware configuration utility say about the drives?
- No backup system in place *and* were using RAID 0 for system/data storage?
- Does the OP think they can make a BartPE CD?
- Does the OP have access to somehting to back the system up to?
- Does the OP have access to drive imaging software?
 
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Bruce Chambers

mike said:
Thanks for giving it a try Bruce but I cant get past the md temp thing.
Windows says access denied.

You need to log in using the built-in Administrator account.

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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
 
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Guest

Hi there Shenan Stanley,

Ok here goes...

Hardware Raid 0 (Promise Raid on an MSI MB)
Hardware config at startup says Raid is Ok- functional
Maxtor HD utility says all hard drives are ok
No back up on CDs or the like I backed up the files I need onto another HD
in the
same computer. This HD won't even show up on another computer. It shows in
the
Bios and in disc management...but not in "MY Computer"
Never used BARTCD so I cant comment...I do have another computer I just got
so yes I can back up the drive somewhere else.
Image software???? Ghost? Data recovery??? Not sure whayt I need to
get...HELP

Thank You
Mike
 
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John John

Was this (third IDE disc) a basic disc or a dynamic disc?

As for the RAID-0 array did you try setting up Windows on a completely
independent disc (in the same computer) then seeing if the array can be
read from the new Windows installation?

John
 
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Guest

The 3rd Disc was just a basic drive on the sec ide.

I think I will go get another HD and do what you said. I want to try and
keep the info intact even if I can't get it off the drives at this time.

Thanks Again
Mike
 
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John John

(On the basic IDE disc) With a partion table/disk editor like ptedit or
diskprobe you could check to see what type of partition(s) the disk
contains. With these tools you could revert the partitions to type 07
if they are of another type. There is no harm in trying this as long as
you keep a record of what you change, it can be changed to its previous
value if needed.

Keep the RAID-0 drives together! Don't break them or your chances of
recovering any data on them will be greatly diminished! If these photos
are very important to you (as you have already said) you may have to use
professional recovery services.

John
 

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