Hybrid sleep option missing


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DJ Krys

Hi

When i go to power options and select what to do when i press the sleep
button, the "Hybrid sleep" is missing. I have enabled "Allow hybrid sleep"
in the advanced power settings and if i type 'powercfg -a' in command prompt
i am told the following sleep states are available.

Standby (S3) Hibernate Hybrid Sleep

Yet when i go to power options i get -
Do nothing
Sleep
Hibernate

I have read of loads of people who can't Hibernate because of Hybrid Sleep,
i appear to have the opposite. How do i enable my computer to use Hybrid
Sleep please.
 
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DJ Krys

Hi

Please before anyone replies to this CAN YOU READ what the problem is,
people seem to be confusing hibernate and hybrid sleep options.

I CAN HIBERNATE, however, no matter what i do, i DO NOT get the option for
HYBRID SLEEP.

'powercfg -h on' appears to enable hybernation, i can already hibernate,
that is not a problem.

I have enabled "allow hybrid sleep" in advanced power options, however, i
still do not get that option when i press the sleep button. I can sleep, i
can hibernate, i CANNOT enable or use HYBRID SLEEP.
 
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Mark L. Ferguson

powercfg /?
<output>
....
-HIBERNATE, -H <ON|OFF>
Enables-Disables the hibernate feature. Hibernate timeout is
not
supported on all systems.

Usage: POWERCFG -H <ON|OFF>

-AVAILABLESLEEPSTATES, -A
Reports the sleep states available on the system
Attempts to report reasons why sleep states are unavailable.

-DEVICEQUERY
Return a list of devices that meet the specified criteria.

Usage: POWERCFG -DEVICEQUERY <queryflags>

<queryflags> Secifies one of the following criteria:

wake_from_S1_supported Return all devices that support waking
the
system from a light sleep state.
wake_from_S2_supported Return all devices that support waking
the
system from a deeper sleep state.
wake_from_S3_supported Return all devices that support waking
the
system from the deepest sleep state.
wake_from_any Return all devices that support waking
the
system from any sleep state.
S1_supported List devices supporting light sleep.
S2_supported List devices supporting deeper sleep.
S3_supported List devices supporting deepest sleep.
S4_supported List devices supporting hibernation.
wake_programmable List devices that are
user-configurable
to wake the system from a sleep state.
wake_armed List devices that are currently
configured
to wake the system from any sleep
state.
all_devices Return all devices present in the
system.
all_devices_verbose Return verbose list of devices.
Example:
POWERCFG -DEVICEQUERY wake_armed
....
<end>
 
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LVTravel

Are you familiar with exactly what Hybrid Sleep is? If you put the computer
into sleep mode and the power dies the computer (if hybrid sleep is enabled
in Vista's settings) the computer will have copied the system state into the
hibernate disk file. There is no hybrid sleep button.

From the help section of Vista:

"Hybrid sleep is another new power-saving feature designed primarily for
desktop computers. Hybrid sleep saves any open documents and programs to
memory and to your hard disk, and then puts your computer into a low-power
state.

Unlike mobile PCs, desktop computers typically don't have battery-based
power backup. So if a sudden power failure occurs to a desktop computer in
standard sleep mode, data loss could occur.

But with hybrid sleep turned on, Windows can restore your work from your
hard disk. On desktop computers, hybrid sleep is typically turned on by
default.

When hybrid sleep is turned on, clicking Sleep automatically puts your
computer into hybrid sleep. When hybrid sleep is turned off, or if your
computer doesn't support hybrid sleep, clicking Sleep puts the computer to
sleep.

To turn hybrid sleep on or off:

Open Power Options
On the Select a power plan page, click Change plan settings under the
selected plan.
On the Change settings for the plan page, click Change advanced power
settings.
On the Advanced settings tab, expand Sleep, expand Allow hybrid sleep, and
then do one of the following:
If you are using a mobile PC, click On battery or Plugged in (or both),
click the arrow, and then click On.
If you are using a desktop computer, click Setting, click the arrow, and
then click On.
Click OK, and then click Save changes."

So, if it is enabled in your advanced power mangagement, and your computer
supports it, you have hybrid sleep. You can test it by putting the system
to sleep with a program such as notepad open and unplugging the computer.
Wait about 10 seconds and plug the computer back in and press the power
button. You should come back to the original screen with notepad open if
the hybrid sleep is working.

Hope this helps, let us know.
 
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DJ Krys

Hi

Just to recap, i have enabled "Allow hybrid sleep" in advanced power options.

I have 3 power options for my sleep button

1. "Do Nothing" - this does nothing when i press the sleep button

2. "Sleep" - when i press the sleep button my computer appears to go to
sleep, if i wait a few minutes then pull out the power from the computer,
when i restart my computer it tell me that windows wasn't shut down properly
the last time, and when windows starts, everything has gone, it is a normal
startup.

3. "Hibernate" - when i press the sleep button my computer hibernates, it
saves my current state to the hard drive then turns off, when i turn the
computer back on it says "resuming windows", and after minute or so i have my
work back as it was when i shut down.

Now, am i missing something or is HYBRID SLEEP not working for me on my
computer.
 
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LVTravel

DJ Krys said:
Hi

Just to recap, i have enabled "Allow hybrid sleep" in advanced power
options.

I have 3 power options for my sleep button

1. "Do Nothing" - this does nothing when i press the sleep button

2. "Sleep" - when i press the sleep button my computer appears to go to
sleep, if i wait a few minutes then pull out the power from the computer,
when i restart my computer it tell me that windows wasn't shut down
properly
the last time, and when windows starts, everything has gone, it is a
normal
startup.

3. "Hibernate" - when i press the sleep button my computer hibernates, it
saves my current state to the hard drive then turns off, when i turn the
computer back on it says "resuming windows", and after minute or so i have
my
work back as it was when i shut down.

Now, am i missing something or is HYBRID SLEEP not working for me on my
computer.

Hybrid sleep NEVER shows as an option. It is a system that automatically
hibernates the computer when you put it to sleep. It is automatic. The
only way to know if it is working is to do what I said earlier. Put it to
sleep with a minor program on the desktop, unplug it after it totally goes
to sleep (wait at least 30 seconds after sleep and monitor goes off) and
then plug in and start again.
 
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DJ Krys

Sorry for my confusion, when researching this online first, people were
concerned about the "hibernation" option being missing, so i firstly assumed
that if hybrid sleep was working then i wouldn't get the "hibernation" option
but maybe would get a "hybrid sleep" option instead.

Anyway, in my last post i did say that i did "sleep" then cut the power and
it didn't work, i lost everything, i got a "your computer wasn't shut down
properly error".

Is this normal with hybrdi sleep or am i correct in assuming hybrid sleep is
not working.
 
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LVTravel

DJ Krys said:
Sorry for my confusion, when researching this online first, people were
concerned about the "hibernation" option being missing, so i firstly
assumed
that if hybrid sleep was working then i wouldn't get the "hibernation"
option
but maybe would get a "hybrid sleep" option instead.

Anyway, in my last post i did say that i did "sleep" then cut the power
and
it didn't work, i lost everything, i got a "your computer wasn't shut down
properly error".

Is this normal with hybrdi sleep or am i correct in assuming hybrid sleep
is
not working.

If you allowed the system time to copy the "desktop" to the hibernate file
upon sleep, apparently the hybrid sleep function isn't working. (Missed
where you said you tried it.)
On my Vista Laptop, I have Hibernate and Sleep both available. When I check
further the system is capable of Hybrid Sleep (that is where I got the
information below!

Check using the method that Mark gave.

Click Start, Run, type CMD in window and press enter.

In the command window that opens type "powercfg -a" (without the quotes) and
press enter.

You should see:
"The following sleep states ............system: Standby (S3) Hibernate
Hybrid Sleep"
The following sleep states are not available on this system
Standby (S1)
The system firmware does not support this standby state.
Standby (S2)
The system firmware does not support this standby state."

So, if it doesn't state that it supports S3 the Hybrid Sleep function won't
work.

Next, what make and model of computer are you using?
 
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DJ Krys

Hi

Right in my very first post i mention doing powercfg -a, and the resulting
sleep states reported back, i just didn't bother elaborating on everything it
reported, it does however say that hybrid sleep is available.

I am now thinking its "sleep" that is at fault, when i hit the sleep button
and the option is "sleep", both my monitors go blank but the fan in the back
of the computer is still spinning, and the power light stays on some half an
hour later, this doesn't sound like the low power state people are talking
about, it apperas to merely turn off the monitors.

powercfg -a reports
"Standby (S3) Hibernate Hybrid Sleep" as my available modes, what is (S3),
is this not a proper standby for some reason
 
T

Tim Slattery

DJ Krys said:
Hi

Just to recap, i have enabled "Allow hybrid sleep" in advanced power options.

I have 3 power options for my sleep button

1. "Do Nothing" - this does nothing when i press the sleep button

2. "Sleep" - when i press the sleep button my computer appears to go to
sleep, if i wait a few minutes then pull out the power from the computer,
when i restart my computer it tell me that windows wasn't shut down properly
the last time, and when windows starts, everything has gone, it is a normal
startup.

"Sleep" spins down the disk, turns the monitor off, but keeps power
flowing to RAM, to keep the contents intact. If you pull out the plug
of a desktop machine, there will be no more power, RAM will be
cleared, and you'll get the message you're seeing. If you pull out a
laptop's plug, the battery should keep things going. Unless your
battery is kaput, of course.
3. "Hibernate" - when i press the sleep button my computer hibernates, it
saves my current state to the hard drive then turns off, when i turn the
computer back on it says "resuming windows", and after minute or so i have my
work back as it was when i shut down.

Exactly. "Hibernate" writes to the hard drive and turns off the
computer. When you boot, the computer first looks for a hibernate
file. If it finds one, it reads it in. If not, it boots normally.
 
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Len Mattix

Just jumpng in to let you know that S3 indicates the ability of your
computer to suspend to RAM. This as you probably know means that virtually
all power is off in the computer except for a trickle of power to the RAM
where all of your in-process operations are stored until your restart.
Obviously if the power should go out you would loose all of your information
in open but unsaved applications.

Len
 
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DJ Krys

Hi Tim

Have you been reading this thread from the beginning because you have
confirmed that my computer will "sleep" and "hibernate", i included that
information just so people will know what my computer WILL do.

However I am having a problem with "hybrid sleep", i.e. my computer is going
into "sleep" state and NOT "hybrid sleep" despite the fact that i have
enabled that option.

If you have anything to say on that matter then great, otherwise you're
confusing the issue. During hybrid sleep, if i pull the power, i should NOT
get an error message when i turn on my computer again. That is the whole
crux of my problem.

How do i get my computer to "hybrid sleep". If anyone does know why my
computer is not doing this despite the options being there then i would
appreciate the help but PLEASE READ ALL MY POSTS as i seem to be just
repeating the same few points over and over and not getting any further down
the discussion.
 

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