How to reformat vista to install XP

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Bruce Chambers

Nonny said:
HE (poormissey)?

As for the "Then why...", that is one of the dumber things you've come
up with! These groups are literally replete with folks who bought
Vista machines and want to ge back to XP.


Yes, there are lots of non-thinking people who bought Vista without
first doing a few moments product research. However, the existence of
those stupid shoppers doesn't excuse or necessarily explain the OP. I
asked "why" because I thought it rude to just automatically assume that
he was also stupid/lazy/cheap; there's a slim possibility that there
might have been a valid reason involved.

Last time I checked, there weren't any 30-day free trials on new
computers to see if you liked them.


That's why any adult consumer would determine what he/she likes
*before* making a purchase decision. Do you buy a car without test
driving it? Do you buy clothing without first checking to be sure it
fits? How is buying a computer any different?


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Sinner

Bruce Chambers said:
Then why would he have bought a computer with it pre-installed? Do you
buy things you don't want or like?

Okay, smartguy, let's see you buy a tablet computer with a 14" monitor, 3GB
of memory, 250GB HD with Windows XP Tablet edition installed. Give me the
URL, when you find it.
Only if someone held a gun to the OP's head, then he was "forced."
Otherwise, he was just too lazy or cheap to shop around.

So, you can rush right out and buy a new computer with Windows ME on it, or
maybe Winows 98SE? The fact of the matter is, that once MS says it will no
longer be selling an OS it is damned near impossible to find a new commputer
with the discontinued OS installed. Especially a year after release of the
new OS.

Someone held a gun to your head? Really? Have you reported him/her to
the police?

Baaa. Your sheepdog is calling.
 
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Sinner

Yes, there are lots of non-thinking people who bought Vista without first
doing a few moments product research. However, the existence of those
stupid shoppers doesn't excuse or necessarily explain the OP. I asked
"why" because I thought it rude to just automatically assume that he was
also stupid/lazy/cheap; there's a slim possibility that there might have
been a valid reason involved.




That's why any adult consumer would determine what he/she likes *before*
making a purchase decision. Do you buy a car without test driving it? Do
you buy clothing without first checking to be sure it fits? How is buying
a computer any different?

With everything you listed above, there are choices, but, with computers you
get the OS that's supplied. In my case, I didn't even get a choice of which
Vista flavor I wanted. I did want the hardware, so I had to accept the
software.

It's morons like yourself, who are willing to accept whatever scraps are
thrown to them, that are facilitating the destructioin of the American
consumer concept that "the customer is always right."
 
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Hobbes

Sinner said:
With everything you listed above, there are choices, but, with computers
you get the OS that's supplied. In my case, I didn't even get a choice of
which Vista flavor I wanted. I did want the hardware, so I had to accept
the software.

It's morons like yourself, who are willing to accept whatever scraps are
thrown to them, that are facilitating the destructioin of the American
consumer concept that "the customer is always right."

You do/did have a choice.
I bought 2 retail WinXP's....they can be installed on any PC I wish.
I have a retail Vista...once again any PC I want.

You seem to believe the only way to buy software is as an OEM preinstall.
 
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Bruce Chambers

Sinner said:
With everything you listed above, there are choices, but, with computers you
get the OS that's supplied.


That's utterly untrue. You're limited to the vendor's choice of
computer configuration _only_ if *you* choose to be. There's no law
that says you have to buy computers only from big name manufacturers
with pre-installed operating systems. That's just the mindlessly easy
way out.

In my case, I didn't even get a choice of which
Vista flavor I wanted. I did want the hardware, so I had to accept the
software.

"Had to accept?" Why's that? Do you live on a planet with only one
computer seller? Simple rule: if a vendor can't or won't sell you the
exact product you want, take your money elsewhere.

It's morons like yourself, who are willing to accept whatever scraps are
thrown to them, that are facilitating the destructioin of the American
consumer concept that "the customer is always right."

Excuse me? Aren't you the "moron" who meekly "accept[ed] whatever"
computer was thrown at him, and is now trying to lay the blame
everywhere except where it belongs? Unlike you, I take my business to
people who meet my needs.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
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Bruce Chambers

Sinner said:
Okay, smartguy, let's see you buy a tablet computer with a 14" monitor, 3GB
of memory, 250GB HD with Windows XP Tablet edition installed. Give me the
URL, when you find it.

Start here:

http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_nkwZtabletPCQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZR40QQ_mdoZ

So, you can rush right out and buy a new computer with Windows ME on it, or
maybe Winows 98SE? The fact of the matter is, that once MS says it will no
longer be selling an OS it is damned near impossible to find a new commputer
with the discontinued OS installed. Especially a year after release of the
new OS.

That's just as well, isn't it, as the old OS is unlikely to work very
well on a new computer, anyway. Why on earth would anyone in their
right mind even want to try? Does a 2008 Ford come with an 8 Track Tape
player?


Baaa. Your sheepdog is calling.


Gee, that's funny. You're the one who mindlessly and obediently
accepted what one vendor offered, and yet you're calling me the sheep?
Have you ever thought of looking into a mirror?


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
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Sinner

Hobbes said:
You do/did have a choice.
I bought 2 retail WinXP's....they can be installed on any PC I wish.
I have a retail Vista...once again any PC I want.

You seem to believe the only way to buy software is as an OEM preinstall.

You're making bad assumptions. I bought OEM packages because they are more
than 50% less expensive than full retail, and less expensive than Update
versions, and I don't care that I won't be able to mount them on future
computers I buy. Secondly, I defy you to find a non-OEM version of Windows
XP Tablet edition, anywhere!

The fact of the matter is, the Vista worshippers can't accept that anyone
would want go back to what they've been comfortable with for years, just
because MS decided they needed to put out a new package. A package which
business has so far resisted, and judging by the numbers of complaints in
all the vista newsgroups, a lot of consumers don't care for.

For me, Vista does nothing that I can't do with XP.

You will, in a couple of years, find out that while your retail versions of
XP will install on new machines, you won't be able to find any drivers.
I'll ne in the same boat with my OEM version. but it will have cost me a lot
less. So, you go ahead and keep buying your full retail packages.
 
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Sinner

Bruce Chambers said:
Sinner wrote:


That's utterly untrue. You're limited to the vendor's choice of computer
configuration _only_ if *you* choose to be. There's no law that says you
have to buy computers only from big name manufacturers with pre-installed
operating systems. That's just the mindlessly easy way out.

Ok, smart guy, ckeck out the specs on the Gateway C-142XL and find me a
comparable match anywhere, for the same price or less. Bear in mind. it
needs a 14" monitor, 3GB of memory, a 250GB HD and be a tablet. Ya, and it
must have WinXP Tablet as an option for OS.

"Had to accept?" Why's that? Do you live on a planet with only one
computer seller? Simple rule: if a vendor can't or won't sell you the
exact product you want, take your money elsewhere.

And if noone has the exact product you want?
It's morons like yourself, who are willing to accept whatever scraps are
thrown to them, that are facilitating the destructioin of the American
consumer concept that "the customer is always right."

Excuse me? Aren't you the "moron" who meekly "accept[ed] whatever"
computer was thrown at him, and is now trying to lay the blame everywhere
except where it belongs? Unlike you, I take my business to people who
meet my needs.

You tell me. Accept my challenge, show the world I'm wrong. Come on, or go
follow the sheep with the bell!
 
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Hobbes

Sinner said:
You're making bad assumptions. I bought OEM packages because they are
more than 50% less expensive than full retail, and less expensive than
Update versions, and I don't care that I won't be able to mount them on
future computers I buy. Secondly, I defy you to find a non-OEM version of
Windows XP Tablet edition, anywhere!

The fact of the matter is, the Vista worshippers can't accept that anyone
would want go back to what they've been comfortable with for years, just
because MS decided they needed to put out a new package. A package which
business has so far resisted, and judging by the numbers of complaints in
all the vista newsgroups, a lot of consumers don't care for.

For me, Vista does nothing that I can't do with XP.

You will, in a couple of years, find out that while your retail versions
of XP will install on new machines, you won't be able to find any drivers.
I'll ne in the same boat with my OEM version. but it will have cost me a
lot less. So, you go ahead and keep buying your full retail packages.

Some people nickel and dime their way thru life.
Money is just money...quite easy to obtain.

Your original argument of " there are choices, but, with computers
you get the OS that's supplied. In my case, I didn't even get a choice
of which Vista flavor I wanted. " has now devolved into an anti MS rant.

People always have choices !

You can choose a PC more in line with your pricepoint ( etch-a-sketch )
You can develope your own programs customized to your needs (not likely)
Or you can whine (the people's choice).

I worship an all powerful BunnyRabbit...not Vista.
 

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