How to make hard drive running?

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foxmore

I removed a HD with Windows XP from an eMachine <A> and wanted to install it
on another eMachine <B> running Win XP. So, I removed HD from machine B, set
jumpers on disk A to master, connected, but computer could not find it.
How can I install this disk A on machine B?
 
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1PW

I removed a HD with Windows XP from an eMachine <A> and wanted to install it
on another eMachine <B> running Win XP. So, I removed HD from machine B, set
jumpers on disk A to master, connected, but computer could not find it.
How can I install this disk A on machine B?

Hello Ilya:

When you wrote: "computer could not find it", do you mean in bios, or
the target system tries but fails to boot from target HDD, or both, or
none of these?

1) You may have inadvertently damaged the target HDD, with static
electricity, when you reconfigured the master/slave/select jumper.

2) You have mis-configured the master/slave jumper on the target HDD.

3) Another device, on the intended IDE bus, may also be strapped for master.

4) You may have damaged the target computer system while making your
changes.

5) The target system may already have a fatally damaged motherboard.

6) The target system may need to have its bios reset to default.

7) Proper power may not be getting to the target HDD. Can you hear the
target HDD spin-up in the target computer system? Is an IDE bus
activity light present and observable?

8) The IDE I/O bus cable, or the PSU, may be failed. Try another known
good IDE I/O bus cable. Do any present cooling fans spin?

9) The target HDD may already be fatally damaged.

Etc...


While observing proper antistatic precautions, and with the target
system powered off:

Disconnect all IDE bus I/O cabling from both buses (Primary &
Secondary). Connect only one IDE I/O bus cable, to the IDE primary bus
connector on the motherboard. Connect the target HDD to the other
extreme end of that same IDE I/O bus cable. Connect no other IDE
devices. Connect the proper power to the target HDD.

Attempt to boot the system from the target HDD while observing *any*
possible indications detectable. Report your complete and detailed
findings here.
 
P

philo

foxmore said:
I removed a HD with Windows XP from an eMachine <A> and wanted to install
it on another eMachine <B> running Win XP. So, I removed HD from machine B,
set jumpers on disk A to master, connected, but computer could not find it.
How can I install this disk A on machine B?



Check your HD documentation carefully.

Some drives have different jumper setting for master with slave present
vs master with no slave present.
 
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Ian D

foxmore said:
I removed a HD with Windows XP from an eMachine <A> and wanted to install
it on another eMachine <B> running Win XP. So, I removed HD from machine B,
set jumpers on disk A to master, connected, but computer could not find it.
How can I install this disk A on machine B?

If it's a Western Digital IDE drive, remove the jumper completely.
Most WD drives are set to master, only if there is an accompanying
slave drive on the same channel (cable).
 
F

foxmore

Thank you all who answered my call for help! Although after some tampering
with both drives (Seagate and Hitachi) I was able to get this machine
running, the setup is not what I'd prefer. Now I have the old drive <B>
running as master and the added drive <A> running as slave. At least this
proves that both drives and the machine are OK.
So the main question remains: how to make drive <A> run on machine <B> as
master? I looked into documentation and other information. Followed
instructions about jumpers, connections, BIOS, etc. to no avail. Looks like
there is some small trick which could solve the mystery... Any magician out
there?
Ilya
 
1

1PW

Thank you all who answered my call for help! Although after some tampering
with both drives (Seagate and Hitachi) I was able to get this machine
running, the setup is not what I'd prefer. Now I have the old drive <B>
running as master and the added drive <A> running as slave. At least this
proves that both drives and the machine are OK.
So the main question remains: how to make drive <A> run on machine <B> as
master? I looked into documentation and other information. Followed
instructions about jumpers, connections, BIOS, etc. to no avail. Looks like
there is some small trick which could solve the mystery... Any magician out
there?
Ilya


Hello Ilya:

There are no tricks. We, and you, must use the information from the HDD
manufacturers.

Disconnect the <B> HDD from the IDE bus. Re-configure the <A> HDD from
slave to a master. If the <A> was/is bootable, it will work.

If you still have no success, post the exact Brand and model numbers of
the <A> HDD and its *current* configuration jumper layout.

Caution, use the proper antistatic procedures at all times.

Pete
 
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Mike Hall - MVP

foxmore said:
Thank you all who answered my call for help! Although after some tampering
with both drives (Seagate and Hitachi) I was able to get this machine
running, the setup is not what I'd prefer. Now I have the old drive <B>
running as master and the added drive <A> running as slave. At least this
proves that both drives and the machine are OK.
So the main question remains: how to make drive <A> run on machine <B> as
master? I looked into documentation and other information. Followed
instructions about jumpers, connections, BIOS, etc. to no avail. Looks
like there is some small trick which could solve the mystery... Any
magician out there?
Ilya

foxmore said:
I removed a HD with Windows XP from an eMachine <A> and wanted to install
it on another eMachine <B> running Win XP. So, I removed HD from machine
B, set jumpers on disk A to master, connected, but computer could not find
it.
How can I install this disk A on machine B?


Jumper settings for Seagate drives..

http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/installation_assistance/jumper_setting_illustrations/

Jumper settings for Hitachi

http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/cabling/travelstar4.htm

If the OS is not detected on bootup, set boot priority to CD or use F# as
indicated on the initialization screen to boot temporarily from CD..

Insert an XP CD of exactly the same version as you have installed on drive
A.. Note that a manufacturer RECOVERY CD will not work..

Run the XP repair install as shown here..

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
 
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foxmore

Mike,
thanks for the suggestions. However, all I have is a RECOVERY CD for both
machines...
Ilya

 
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foxmore

I'll try your suggestions again... If it will not work, I'll post all
information here... Hope I should not do this...
Ilya
 

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