How to make a cloned disk boot?

[Guest]

Hi Bo,

I'm sure your using similar hardware to this see links below..
http://www.bay-wolf.com/hddadapter.htm
http://www.xpcgear.com/3slusb20exat.html
Another option might be using a network hub to connect a desktop to your
laptops, see what others are saying & doing..
http://www.google.com/search?q=How+to+connect+a+laptop+to+as+desktop+computer

So, you chose automatic, ok that's why it is taking longer...
More than likely there is a verification or surface scan, sector to sector
process that is part of the automatic setting.. With file system errors, you
may not have had much choice in the matter, even in manual mode..

As far as your thoughts on compression your right about the image file, but
I don't think you understand that restoring your computer from the Image file
will yield the same result, restoing the users complete system and data...

Don't take me the wrong way, cloning will work but can take longer
especially in (slow but sure) automatic mode, though it should do it all
directly with less user attention.. So, go play a round of golf for 5 hours
or set it to run at night and in the morning it's done, ideally..

So, I take it it ATI ver 10 worked and all is well, better late than never,
right..?

The reason I like using the image file (.tib) method is that you stay in the
Windows GUI throughout the whole image creating & restoring process, ie.. no
booting into dos needed.. Plus, you should get more info on the process,
size, % time left, etc..

You might even pose your questions on speed and performance to the ATI users
forum for more incite on the How's, Why's & How Come's..
http://www.acronis.com/enterprise/support/forum/

Best of luck and Happy Holiday's to you..
Cheers
j;-j

 

[Bo Berglund]

Hi Bo,

I'm sure your using similar hardware to this see links below..
http://www.bay-wolf.com/hddadapter.htm
http://www.xpcgear.com/3slusb20exat.html

A couple of years back I had the same problem on my previous laptop
(outgrown disk). It was also a Compaq workstation class laptop.
At the time I was used to cloning disks with Ghost but to do it I hade
to use a different computer to hook in the old and new drives because
the laptop does only provide a single connector. I used one of the
2.5"-3.5" adapters. The cloning went well except it would not boot....
After many iterations I finally had to partition the new drive to
50+30 Gb and Ghost the old drive to an image on the top partition.
Then put the drive in to the laptop and ghost image -> partition to
get it to the boot partition of the new drive. Then it worked but I
had not achieved my goal of using the whole drive.

Now I tried using the other hardware gadget you describe, a USB2
adapter for the 2.5" drive. But as I have described there were
problems also with this approach, which I cannot understand at all.
Maybe there is something with HP/Compaq laptops that stops them from
easily using newly cloned drives?

Another option might be using a network hub to connect a desktop to your
laptops, see what others are saying & doing..
http://www.google.com/search?q=How+to+connect+a+laptop+to+as+desktop+computer

Never tried cloning that way. How can the network be used? Just using
a desktop as the Internet gateway is no issue here. We have a network
with a routyer and all is fine for that. But cloning disks???

So, you chose automatic, ok that's why it is taking longer...
More than likely there is a verification or surface scan, sector to sector
process that is part of the automatic setting.. With file system errors, you
may not have had much choice in the matter, even in manual mode..

We figured that since we knew nothing about TI and it detected exactly
what we wanted to do (make the empty drive the new boot drive, only
bigger) we chose automatic and it did its thing, albeit slowly....

As far as your thoughts on compression your right about the image file, but
I don't think you understand that restoring your computer from the Image file
will yield the same result, restoing the users complete system and data...

I know that, but then you have to count on twice as long, first
creating the image and then writing that image back to the new disk.
And you need 40 Gb intermediate on-line storage as well...

Don't take me the wrong way, cloning will work but can take longer
especially in (slow but sure) automatic mode, though it should do it all
directly with less user attention.. So, go play a round of golf for 5 hours
or set it to run at night and in the morning it's done, ideally..

We staretd this at work at about 15:00 not knowing about the speed
issue. So we had to hide the laptop under a lot of stuff (so it would
not get stolen) before leaving work for home....
It worked overnight just fine. Now that we know about the lack of
speed we will set it up in a secure room and let it work overnight for
the next laptop (after the holidays).
Normally we bring the laptops home or lock them up overnight in view
of the frequent burglaries in our industrial park. :-(

So, I take it it ATI ver 10 worked and all is well, better late than never,
right..?

Right, now we are 75% done, only one laptop remaining. But different
solutions for each so far...

The reason I like using the image file (.tib) method is that you stay in the
Windows GUI throughout the whole image creating & restoring process, ie.. no
booting into dos needed.. Plus, you should get more info on the process,
size, % time left, etc..

But then what you clone is not the same as what you have when you are
done because I assume it cannot clone files in use and what you do
while waiting for trhe process to finish will be lost forever once the
new disk is installed. I don't trust cloning while still in Windows..

You might even pose your questions on speed and performance to the ATI users
forum for more incite on the How's, Why's & How Come's..
http://www.acronis.com/enterprise/support/forum/

Best of luck and Happy Holiday's to you..

You too!



Bo Berglund
bo.berglund(at)nospam.telia.com