How to handle WinXP licensing

[William Jones]

Aloha everyone,
I am in the market for a new laptop, but the OS on the one I intend
to purchase is WinXP Home (OEM version). I have my own copy of WinXP
Pro on my current laptop. My question is this: is there any way to put
the OEM version of WinXP Home on my current laptop (I would have to have
Microsoft "release" the WinXP Pro activation on that laptop, I guess) so
that I can install WinXP Pro on my new laptop? If possible, I would
like to keep both versions of WinXP, but as the new laptop is a SONY,
I'm not entirely sure whether they have all the SONY software on the
WinXP install/recovery disk. I would appreciate any assistance in this
matter.

Thanks in advance,

William Jones

 

[T. Waters]

Aloha everyone,
I am in the market for a new laptop, but the OS on the one I intend
to purchase is WinXP Home (OEM version). I have my own copy of WinXP
Pro on my current laptop. My question is this: is there any way to
put the OEM version of WinXP Home on my current laptop (I would have
to have Microsoft "release" the WinXP Pro activation on that laptop,
I guess) so that I can install WinXP Pro on my new laptop? If
possible, I would like to keep both versions of WinXP, but as the new
laptop is a SONY, I'm not entirely sure whether they have all the
SONY software on the WinXP install/recovery disk. I would appreciate
any assistance in this matter.

Thanks in advance,

William Jones

William, even if your new laptop were a Sony, its operating system simply
would not work on the old machine. It has been configured to the motherboard
of its original machine. The reverse would also be true, unless you bought
your XP Pro separately.

 

[Miss Perspicacia Tick]

Aloha everyone,
I am in the market for a new laptop, but the OS on the one I intend
to purchase is WinXP Home (OEM version). I have my own copy of WinXP
Pro on my current laptop. My question is this: is there any way to
put the OEM version of WinXP Home on my current laptop (I would have
to have Microsoft "release" the WinXP Pro activation on that laptop,
I guess) so that I can install WinXP Pro on my new laptop? If
possible, I would like to keep both versions of WinXP, but as the new
laptop is a SONY, I'm not entirely sure whether they have all the
SONY software on the WinXP install/recovery disk. I would appreciate
any assistance in this matter.

Thanks in advance,

William Jones

No.

You would have known this had you: -

1) Read the EULA

2) Googled

An OEM licence is *FOREVER* tied to the system it was first installed on and
my *NOT* be installed on any other system, regardless of what fate befalls
the original system.

If you want Pro on your new laptop, then you must order it with Pro, or
purchase a retail upgrade.

 

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[William Jones]

No.

You would have known this had you: -

2) Googled

And this is NOT a proper forum for getting my question answered? Gee, I
thougth newsgroups were part of the internet, just like Google. I have
been informed, perhaps incorrectly, that Microsoft could "release" an
activation, but I wasn't sure of the proper protocol and thought someone
here may know. I don't know for certain that the WinXP disk which comes
with the SONY laptop is an OEM version, but that is most likely the
case. I apologize for causing you to get up on the wrong side of the
bed this morning, but I'm not really used to such apparent anger towards
what you must inconceivably consider such a stupid question. Maybe once
you get down off your high horse you could actually get a personality,
or at least not be as gruff as your post makes you appear to be.

As for ordering WinXP on the laptop, that option is not possible for me
- it is ordered by AAFES with WinXP Home on it, hence my question.
Actually, you ignored my other question, which was whether it is
actually possible to transfer, or release, the license of WinXP from one
computer to another, but thanks for your reply, smug as it was.

William Jones

If you want Pro on your new laptop, then you must order it with Pro, or
purchase a retail upgrade.

Again, since I already have a legal copy of WinXP Pro, WHY should I now
be forced to purchase ANOTHER copy of it (assuming it will be removed
from the computer on which it is currently installed)?

William Jones

 

[kurttrail]

And this is NOT a proper forum for getting my question answered? Gee,
I thougth newsgroups were part of the internet, just like
Google. I have been informed, perhaps incorrectly, that Microsoft
could "release" an activation, but I wasn't sure of the proper
protocol and thought someone here may know. I don't know for certain
that the WinXP disk which comes with the SONY laptop is an OEM
version, but that is most likely the case. I apologize for causing
you to get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, but I'm not
really used to such apparent anger towards what you must
inconceivably consider such a stupid question. Maybe once you get
down off your high horse you could actually get a personality, or at
least not be as gruff as your post makes you appear to be.
As for ordering WinXP on the laptop, that option is not possible for
me - it is ordered by AAFES with WinXP Home on it, hence my question.
Actually, you ignored my other question, which was whether it is
actually possible to transfer, or release, the license of WinXP from
one computer to another, but thanks for your reply, smug as it was.

William Jones

Again, since I already have a legal copy of WinXP Pro, WHY should I
now be forced to purchase ANOTHER copy of it (assuming it will be
removed from the computer on which it is currently installed)?

William Jones

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[Miss Perspicacia Tick]

And this is NOT a proper forum for getting my question answered?

I never said it wasn't. It is hoped, however, that the poster has done some
research first.

Gee, I thougth newsgroups were part of the internet, just like
Google.

They are, but Google is your friend, and you can answer many questions via
http://groups.google.com

I have been informed, perhaps incorrectly, that Microsoft

could "release" an activation, but I wasn't sure of the proper
protocol and thought someone here may know.

OEM licences have nothing whatsoever to do with Microsoft, they are the
property of the system vendor (or the seller in the case of OEM licences
purchased with an item of non-peripheral hardware). *ALL* support is the
sole responsibility of the system vendor, Microsoft has no case to answer
for support, or issues arising from lost keys and/or media.

An OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) licence is *PERMANENTLY* tied to
the first system it's installed (or activated on in the case of generic OEM
licences) and is non-transferable.


I don't know for certain

that the WinXP disk which comes with the SONY laptop is an OEM
version, but that is most likely the case.

It was supplied with a system, ergo it's OEM.


I apologize for causing

you to get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, but I'm not
really used to such apparent anger towards what you must
inconceivably consider such a stupid question. Maybe once you get
down off your high horse you could actually get a personality, or at
least not be as gruff as your post makes you appear to be.

So you don't like being told to do the work yourself, then? You were
obviously born with a platinum (never mind silver) spoon in your mouth and
are used to being spoonfed. Well, that isn't going to happen here. You have
the entire web at your fingertips, and http://groups.google.com contains
nearly every post going back to 1981 (yep, that's 24 years), so the answer
you seek is bound to be archived.

Pot, kettle. First look for the splinter in your own eye, before attempting
to remove the plank from your brother's. You were the one who came swanning
in here, arrogantly expecting someone to spoonfeed you the answer. So, I
gave you one; then you whine because it would mean actually doing some work
yourself.

As for ordering WinXP on the laptop, that option is not possible for
me - it is ordered by AAFES with WinXP Home on it, hence my question.
Actually, you ignored my other question, which was whether it is
actually possible to transfer, or release, the license of WinXP from
one computer to another, but thanks for your reply, smug as it was.

No I didn't. I told you to read the EULA but, obviously, that's too much
like hard work for you, too.

Again, since I already have a legal copy of WinXP Pro, WHY should I
now be forced to purchase ANOTHER copy of it (assuming it will be
removed from the computer on which it is currently installed)?

Because it is OEM and, very possibly, BIOS locked, which would mean it would
only install on the system it was supplied with. If you didn't want to
comply with the OEM EULA, maybe you should have done some homework before
purchasing a system with an OEM licence. Additionally, the disc may not be a
copy of the OS, the OS installation files may reside on a hidden partition
on the hard drive, and the disc may merely be a key to unlock it.

As you appear to be unwilling, or simply too lazy, to read the EULA
yourself, let me quote the relevant paragraphs.

"* Single COMPUTER. The SOFTWARE PRODUCT is licensed with the HARDWARE as a
single integrated product. The SOFTWARE PRODUCT may only be used with the
HARDWARE as set forth in this EULA."

" * Software Product Transfer. You may permanently transfer all of your
rights under this EULA only as part of a permanent sale or transfer of the
HARDWARE, provided you retain no copies, you transfer all of the SOFTWARE
PRODUCT (including all component parts, the media and printed
materials, any upgrades, this EULA and, if applicable, the Certificate(s) of
Authenticity), and the recipient agrees to the terms of this EULA. If the
SOFTWARE PRODUCT is an upgrade, any transfer must also include all prior
versions of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT."

" Product support. Product support for the software product is not provided
by ms, Microsoft Corporation, or their affiliates or subsidiaries. For
product support, please refer to manufacturer's support number provided in
the documentation for the hardware. Should you have any questions
concerning this EULA, or if you desire to contact manufacturer for any other
reason, please refer to the address provided in the documentation for the
hardware."


Does that satisfactorily answer your question?

 

[kurttrail]

I never said it wasn't. It is hoped, however, that the poster has
done some research first.


They are, but Google is your friend, and you can answer many
questions via http://groups.google.com

I have been informed, perhaps incorrectly, that Microsoft

OEM licences have nothing whatsoever to do with Microsoft, they are
the property of the system vendor (or the seller in the case of OEM
licences purchased with an item of non-peripheral hardware). *ALL*
support is the sole responsibility of the system vendor, Microsoft
has no case to answer for support, or issues arising from lost keys
and/or media.
An OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) licence is *PERMANENTLY*
tied to the first system it's installed (or activated on in the case
of generic OEM licences) and is non-transferable.


I don't know for certain

It was supplied with a system, ergo it's OEM.


I apologize for causing

So you don't like being told to do the work yourself, then? You were
obviously born with a platinum (never mind silver) spoon in your
mouth and are used to being spoonfed. Well, that isn't going to
happen here. You have the entire web at your fingertips, and
http://groups.google.com contains nearly every post going back to
1981 (yep, that's 24 years), so the answer you seek is bound to be
archived.
Pot, kettle. First look for the splinter in your own eye, before
attempting to remove the plank from your brother's. You were the one
who came swanning in here, arrogantly expecting someone to spoonfeed
you the answer. So, I gave you one; then you whine because it would
mean actually doing some work yourself.


No I didn't. I told you to read the EULA but, obviously, that's too
much like hard work for you, too.


Because it is OEM and, very possibly, BIOS locked, which would mean
it would only install on the system it was supplied with. If you
didn't want to comply with the OEM EULA, maybe you should have done
some homework before purchasing a system with an OEM licence.
Additionally, the disc may not be a copy of the OS, the OS
installation files may reside on a hidden partition on the hard
drive, and the disc may merely be a key to unlock it.
As you appear to be unwilling, or simply too lazy, to read the EULA
yourself, let me quote the relevant paragraphs.

"* Single COMPUTER. The SOFTWARE PRODUCT is licensed with the
HARDWARE as a single integrated product. The SOFTWARE PRODUCT may
only be used with the HARDWARE as set forth in this EULA."

" * Software Product Transfer. You may permanently transfer all of
your rights under this EULA only as part of a permanent sale or
transfer of the HARDWARE, provided you retain no copies, you transfer
all of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT (including all component parts, the media
and printed materials, any upgrades, this EULA and, if applicable, the
Certificate(s) of Authenticity), and the recipient agrees to the
terms of this EULA. If the SOFTWARE PRODUCT is an upgrade, any
transfer must also include all prior versions of the SOFTWARE
PRODUCT."
" Product support. Product support for the software product is not
provided by ms, Microsoft Corporation, or their affiliates or
subsidiaries. For product support, please refer to manufacturer's
support number provided in the documentation for the hardware. Should
you have any questions concerning this EULA, or if you desire
to contact manufacturer for any other reason, please refer to the
address provided in the documentation for the hardware."


Does that satisfactorily answer your question?

Yeah, if one believes everything they read. Some of us aren't that
stupid.

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[T. Waters]

William, you are dealing with our "resident alien," and he or she (he,
actually, if you ask me) appears to have a bad case of rabies. Or perhaps
needs to attack innocent posters who have legitimate questions because he is
a nobody who lives with Mum and Dad.

 

[Jack Cosway]

Yeah, if one believes everything they read. Some of us aren't that
stupid.

Obviously, Ms Despicable Tit is.