how to get wireless USB to work in DOS

[briant]

Hi - I have a Creative Wireless Keyboard and Mouse that connect to a USB
port. When in DOS [boot from floppy] for Norton Ghost the mouse does not
function, keyboard is OK. Support at Creative say it's a Microsoft problem.
QUOTE
Sorry this is a third party software issue.
And WinXP does not support Real Dos enviroment, unless you boot from
diskette. For more info, please refer back to Microsoft.
Please try to update your BIOS. You can try on another PC.
END QUOTE

Any drivers know to support mouse ?

Regards
BrainT

 

[David Hollway]

Hi - I have a Creative Wireless Keyboard and Mouse that connect to a USB
port. When in DOS [boot from floppy] for Norton Ghost the mouse does not
function, keyboard is OK. Support at Creative say it's a Microsoft problem.
QUOTE
Sorry this is a third party software issue.
And WinXP does not support Real Dos enviroment, unless you boot from
diskette. For more info, please refer back to Microsoft.
Please try to update your BIOS. You can try on another PC.
END QUOTE

Any drivers know to support mouse ?

Regards
BrainT

Hi,

First, you need to enable "Legacy USB" in your BIOS (depending on BIOS type,
this is sometimes called "USB Mouse/Keyboard support" or similar). This
allows USB mice/keyboards to be seen as PS/2 devices - useful for
non-USB-aware operating systems like DOS or NT4.0. You say that the
keyboard works OK, which suggests to me that this option already IS enabled,
however.

If so, then the second part of the puzzle is that you must install a DOS
mouse driver. If the Legacy USB option is doing its job, and Creative
haven't pulled any funny tricks in the design of the mouse, then it should
declare itself as a standard USB HID-class peripheral (Human Interface
Device) and the Legacy USB option should be able to "translate" its signals
to PS/2 equivalents. That said, any of the standard DOS mouse drivers should
work. I myself have a Microsoft USB wireless mouse, and the Microsoft mouse
driver works OK for me.
Googling for "DOS mouse driver" throws up a couple of promising
possibilities:

http://www.softwarepatch.com/utilities/msdosmouse.html
http://www.driverforum.com/inputdevice3/2614.html

The mouse driver must typically be added to the CONFIG.SYS or AUTOEXEC.BAT
of your DOS startup disk in order to work.

Hope this helps!

-David Hollway
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[David Vair]

Make sure the ghost disk has the mouse drivers on it and they are being loaded. The ghost disks
that I have used in the past do not load mouse drivers.

 

[briant]

Hi - I have a Creative Wireless Keyboard and Mouse that connect to a USB
port. When in DOS [boot from floppy] for Norton Ghost the mouse does not
function, keyboard is OK. Support at Creative say it's a Microsoft problem.
QUOTE
Sorry this is a third party software issue.
And WinXP does not support Real Dos enviroment, unless you boot from
diskette. For more info, please refer back to Microsoft.
Please try to update your BIOS. You can try on another PC.
END QUOTE

Any drivers know to support mouse ?

Regards
BrainT

Hi,

First, you need to enable "Legacy USB" in your BIOS (depending on BIOS type,
this is sometimes called "USB Mouse/Keyboard support" or similar). This
allows USB mice/keyboards to be seen as PS/2 devices - useful for
non-USB-aware operating systems like DOS or NT4.0. You say that the
keyboard works OK, which suggests to me that this option already IS enabled,
however.

If so, then the second part of the puzzle is that you must install a DOS
mouse driver. If the Legacy USB option is doing its job, and Creative
haven't pulled any funny tricks in the design of the mouse, then it should
declare itself as a standard USB HID-class peripheral (Human Interface
Device) and the Legacy USB option should be able to "translate" its signals
to PS/2 equivalents. That said, any of the standard DOS mouse drivers should
work. I myself have a Microsoft USB wireless mouse, and the Microsoft mouse
driver works OK for me.
Googling for "DOS mouse driver" throws up a couple of promising
possibilities:

http://www.softwarepatch.com/utilities/msdosmouse.html
http://www.driverforum.com/inputdevice3/2614.html

The mouse driver must typically be added to the CONFIG.SYS or AUTOEXEC.BAT
of your DOS startup disk in order to work.

Hope this helps!

-David Hollway
mail as in header - remove spam blocker

Thanks for info David, yes Legacy USB is enabled in BIOS and I am using the
standard MS Dos mouse driver, called from the autoexec.bat when I boot from
the floppy. In Control Panel both the keyboard and the mouse are shown to
be:- HID-compatible mouse/keyboard.

I have also tried CTMouse [from one of your links] no joy, and have just
downloaded Logitech Mouseware and will try that. I think Creative have the
problem with their mouse but they deny it and say its a third party software
issue, but any operating system will be third party to Creative as they
don't have one !!!. Norton Ghost is not the problem as a straight boot into
win98 or winME from boot floppy will not see the mouse [driver installed of
course] but see the keyboard. Looks like dumping Creative.

Can you suggest any anything further ?

Regards
BrianT

 

[briant]

Yes it does David, see my reply to the post from the other David. On booting
with the floppy, I see the mouse driver being installed.

Make sure the ghost disk has the mouse drivers on it and they are being loaded. The ghost disks
that I have used in the past do not load mouse drivers.
--
Dave Vair
CNE, CNA, MCP, A+, N+
Computer Education Services Corp. (CESC)

Hi - I have a Creative Wireless Keyboard and Mouse that connect to a USB
port. When in DOS [boot from floppy] for Norton Ghost the mouse does not
function, keyboard is OK. Support at Creative say it's a Microsoft problem.
QUOTE
Sorry this is a third party software issue.
And WinXP does not support Real Dos enviroment, unless you boot from
diskette. For more info, please refer back to Microsoft.
Please try to update your BIOS. You can try on another PC.
END QUOTE

Any drivers know to support mouse ?

Regards
BrainT

 

[briant]

Hi - I have a Creative Wireless Keyboard and Mouse that connect to a USB
port. When in DOS [boot from floppy] for Norton Ghost the mouse does not
function, keyboard is OK. Support at Creative say it's a Microsoft problem.
QUOTE
Sorry this is a third party software issue.
And WinXP does not support Real Dos enviroment, unless you boot from
diskette. For more info, please refer back to Microsoft.
Please try to update your BIOS. You can try on another PC.
END QUOTE
Any drivers know to support mouse ?
Regards
BrainT

Hi,
First, you need to enable "Legacy USB" in your BIOS (depending on BIOS type,
this is sometimes called "USB Mouse/Keyboard support" or similar). This
allows USB mice/keyboards to be seen as PS/2 devices - useful for
non-USB-aware operating systems like DOS or NT4.0. You say that the
keyboard works OK, which suggests to me that this option already IS enabled,
however.

If so, then the second part of the puzzle is that you must install a DOS
mouse driver. If the Legacy USB option is doing its job, and Creative
haven't pulled any funny tricks in the design of the mouse, then it should
declare itself as a standard USB HID-class peripheral (Human Interface
Device) and the Legacy USB option should be able to "translate" its signals
to PS/2 equivalents. That said, any of the standard DOS mouse drivers should
work. I myself have a Microsoft USB wireless mouse, and the Microsoft mouse
driver works OK for me.
Googling for "DOS mouse driver" throws up a couple of promising
possibilities:
http://www.softwarepatch.com/utilities/msdosmouse.html
http://www.driverforum.com/inputdevice3/2614.html
The mouse driver must typically be added to the CONFIG.SYS or AUTOEXEC.BAT
of your DOS startup disk in order to work.
Hope this helps!
-David Hollway
mail as in header - remove spam blocker

Thanks for info David, yes Legacy USB is enabled in BIOS and I am using the
standard MS Dos mouse driver, called from the autoexec.bat when I boot from
the floppy. In Control Panel both the keyboard and the mouse are shown to
be:- HID-compatible mouse/keyboard.
I have also tried CTMouse [from one of your links] no joy, and have just
downloaded Logitech Mouseware and will try that. I think Creative have the
problem with their mouse but they deny it and say its a third party software
issue, but any operating system will be third party to Creative as they
don't have one !!!. Norton Ghost is not the problem as a straight boot into
win98 or winME from boot floppy will not see the mouse [driver installed of
course] but see the keyboard. Looks like dumping Creative.
Can you suggest any anything further ?
Regards
BrianT

Interesting Dave, when the Logitec mouse driver loads, I see the following:
PS/2 Device Found
But still no mouse in Ghost or other DOS progs.