How to email blast when ISP limits outbound number of messages?

[Gregg Hill]

Diane,

How can one send to 500 people if one's ISP limits messages to about 50
recipients per message? I just had someone tell me that he has to break down
his email blast to his clients into groups of 25-30 or they will not send.
He has almost 500 people to whom he sends a monthly update.

No, he is not a spammer. These people are his legitimate clients.

Gregg Hill

 

[Ben M. Schorr - MVP (OneNote)]

Either break it into groups that are within the ISPs limits, get a
different ISP that doesn't limit you, or use a 3rd party service that
will send out your e-mail blasts for you.

--
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
http://www.officeforlawyers.com
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[tedmi]

Another option is to set up a group on Yahoo or Google and enter the client's
addresses there. Yahoo limits you to signing up 100 addresses per day, so it
would take 5 days to load up all that you need.

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

With a list that large, I'd look into using real list software. I'd avoid
yahoogroups for business, but there are apps you can run on your network
(and with your domain) that will send them 1 at a time... you may or may not
hit limits with the ISP though - some have min and/or hourly limits too.

You can use mail merge so only 1 name per message or a utility that slows
sending so you don't hit limits. See
http://www.slipstick.com/addins/massmail.asp for a list of utilities.

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[Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]]

I agree with Diane. Using a Yahoo or Google group isn't going to look
professional. Plus, given that you can expect a 10% bounce rate for any mass
mailing, does he really want to be going by hand through 50 or so
non-delivery reports every time to see who needs to be deleted from the list
or get an address update? Any purpose-built mass mailing application, whether
hosted or local, should be able to process those NDRs and make that task
easier. Some ISPs also offer Mailman or other list software as part of their
package; it doesn't hurt to ask.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers

With a list that large, I'd look into using real list software. I'd avoid
yahoogroups for business, but there are apps you can run on your network
(and with your domain) that will send them 1 at a time... you may or may not
hit limits with the ISP though - some have min and/or hourly limits too.

You can use mail merge so only 1 name per message or a utility that slows
sending so you don't hit limits. See
http://www.slipstick.com/addins/massmail.asp for a list of utilities.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]





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Diane,

How can one send to 500 people if one's ISP limits messages to about 50
recipients per message? I just had someone tell me that he has to break
down his email blast to his clients into groups of 25-30 or they will not
send. He has almost 500 people to whom he sends a monthly update.

No, he is not a spammer. These people are his legitimate clients.

Gregg Hill

 

[Gregg Hill]

Thank you to all who responded!

Gregg Hill

I agree with Diane. Using a Yahoo or Google group isn't going to look
professional. Plus, given that you can expect a 10% bounce rate for any
mass
mailing, does he really want to be going by hand through 50 or so
non-delivery reports every time to see who needs to be deleted from the
list
or get an address update? Any purpose-built mass mailing application,
whether
hosted or local, should be able to process those NDRs and make that task
easier. Some ISPs also offer Mailman or other list software as part of
their
package; it doesn't hurt to ask.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers

With a list that large, I'd look into using real list software. I'd avoid
yahoogroups for business, but there are apps you can run on your network
(and with your domain) that will send them 1 at a time... you may or may
not
hit limits with the ISP though - some have min and/or hourly limits too.

You can use mail merge so only 1 name per message or a utility that slows
sending so you don't hit limits. See
http://www.slipstick.com/addins/massmail.asp for a list of utilities.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]





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"Gregg Hill" <greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot com> wrote
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Diane,

How can one send to 500 people if one's ISP limits messages to about 50
recipients per message? I just had someone tell me that he has to break
down his email blast to his clients into groups of 25-30 or they will
not
send. He has almost 500 people to whom he sends a monthly update.

No, he is not a spammer. These people are his legitimate clients.

Gregg Hill

 

[M.S. Hanenkrat]

Due to the constant DoS attacks on mail servers in the United States these days, ISP's are forced to limit the number of recipients per email. We used to limit the recipients to 100, then 50, and finally, today, it's down to 25.

If you must send out more emails,then break your lists down to whatever your ISP limits and send 10 to 20 emails with 25 recipients each. More than that, seek a professional email service.



Gregg Hill wrote:

How to email blast when ISP limits outbound number of messages?
07-Sep-08

Diane,

How can one send to 500 people if one's ISP limits messages to about 50
recipients per message? I just had someone tell me that he has to break down
his email blast to his clients into groups of 25-30 or they will not send.
He has almost 500 people to whom he sends a monthly update.

No, he is not a spammer. These people are his legitimate clients.

Gregg Hill

Previous Posts In This Thread:

How to email blast when ISP limits outbound number of messages?
Diane,

How can one send to 500 people if one's ISP limits messages to about 50
recipients per message? I just had someone tell me that he has to break down
his email blast to his clients into groups of 25-30 or they will not send.
He has almost 500 people to whom he sends a monthly update.

No, he is not a spammer. These people are his legitimate clients.

Gregg Hill

Either break it into groups that are within the ISPs limits, get a different
Either break it into groups that are within the ISPs limits, get a
different ISP that doesn't limit you, or use a 3rd party service that
will send out your e-mail blasts for you.

--
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
http://www.officeforlawyers.com
Author - The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007:
http://tinyurl.com/5m3f5q



"Gregg Hill" <greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot com>
wrote in message
Another option is to set up a group on Yahoo or Google and enter the client's
Another option is to set up a group on Yahoo or Google and enter the client's
addresses there. Yahoo limits you to signing up 100 addresses per day, so it
would take 5 days to load up all that you need.
--
TedMi


:

With a list that large, I'd look into using real list software.
With a list that large, I'd look into using real list software. I'd avoid
yahoogroups for business, but there are apps you can run on your network
(and with your domain) that will send them 1 at a time... you may or may not
hit limits with the ISP though - some have min and/or hourly limits too.

You can use mail merge so only 1 name per message or a utility that slows
sending so you don't hit limits. See
http://www.slipstick.com/addins/massmail.asp for a list of utilities.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]





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"Gregg Hill" <greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot com> wrote in
message
I agree with Diane.
I agree with Diane. Using a Yahoo or Google group isn't going to look
professional. Plus, given that you can expect a 10% bounce rate for any mass
mailing, does he really want to be going by hand through 50 or so
non-delivery reports every time to see who needs to be deleted from the list
or get an address update? Any purpose-built mass mailing application, whether
hosted or local, should be able to process those NDRs and make that task
easier. Some ISPs also offer Mailman or other list software as part of their
package; it doesn't hurt to ask.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers




:

Thank you to all who responded!
Thank you to all who responded!

Gregg Hill


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[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

A mail merge and a utility the limits the number of messages per minute will
get past most isp limitations - unless they have a daily limit. But it
really is better to use a commercial service for large blasts. They'll send
a lot faster than outlook ever can.

--
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[Tom Willett]

Reckon that poster from 2008 you are replying to will come back to see your
reply?

<M.S. Hanenkrat> wrote in message : Due to the constant DoS attacks on mail servers in the United States these
days, ISP's are forced to limit the number of recipients per email. We used
to limit the recipients to 100, then 50, and finally, today, it's down to
25.
:
: If you must send out more emails,then break your lists down to whatever
your ISP limits and send 10 to 20 emails with 25 recipients each. More than
that, seek a professional email service.
:
:
:
: Gregg Hill wrote:
:
: How to email blast when ISP limits outbound number of messages?
: 07-Sep-08
:
: Diane,
:
: How can one send to 500 people if one's ISP limits messages to about 50
: recipients per message? I just had someone tell me that he has to break
down
: his email blast to his clients into groups of 25-30 or they will not send.
: He has almost 500 people to whom he sends a monthly update.
:
: No, he is not a spammer. These people are his legitimate clients.
:
: Gregg Hill
:
: Previous Posts In This Thread:
:
: On Sunday, September 07, 2008 2:40 AM
: Gregg Hill wrote:
:
: How to email blast when ISP limits outbound number of messages?
: Diane,
:
: How can one send to 500 people if one's ISP limits messages to about 50
: recipients per message? I just had someone tell me that he has to break
down
: his email blast to his clients into groups of 25-30 or they will not send.
: He has almost 500 people to whom he sends a monthly update.
:
: No, he is not a spammer. These people are his legitimate clients.
:
: Gregg Hill
:
: On Sunday, September 07, 2008 3:03 AM
: Ben M. Schorr - MVP (OneNote) wrote:
:
: Either break it into groups that are within the ISPs limits, get a
different
: Either break it into groups that are within the ISPs limits, get a
: different ISP that doesn't limit you, or use a 3rd party service that
: will send out your e-mail blasts for you.
:
: --
: -Ben-
: Ben M. Schorr, MVP
: Roland Schorr & Tower
: http://www.rolandschorr.com
: http://www.officeforlawyers.com
: Author - The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007:
: http://tinyurl.com/5m3f5q
:
:
:
: "Gregg Hill" <greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot com>
: wrote in message :
: On Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:09 AM
: tedm wrote:
:
: Another option is to set up a group on Yahoo or Google and enter the
client's
: Another option is to set up a group on Yahoo or Google and enter the
client's
: addresses there. Yahoo limits you to signing up 100 addresses per day, so
it
: would take 5 days to load up all that you need.
: --
: TedMi
:
:
: "Ben M. Schorr - MVP (OneNote)" wrote:
:
: On Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:17 AM
: Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote:
:
: With a list that large, I'd look into using real list software.
: With a list that large, I'd look into using real list software. I'd avoid
: yahoogroups for business, but there are apps you can run on your network
: (and with your domain) that will send them 1 at a time... you may or may
not
: hit limits with the ISP though - some have min and/or hourly limits too.
:
: You can use mail merge so only 1 name per message or a utility that slows
: sending so you don't hit limits. See
: http://www.slipstick.com/addins/massmail.asp for a list of utilities.
:
: --
: Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
:
:
:
: Outlook Tips by email:
: (e-mail address removed)
:
: EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
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:
:
: "Gregg Hill" <greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot com> wrote
in
: message :
: On Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:53 AM
: suemv wrote:
:
: I agree with Diane.
: I agree with Diane. Using a Yahoo or Google group isn't going to look
: professional. Plus, given that you can expect a 10% bounce rate for any
mass
: mailing, does he really want to be going by hand through 50 or so
: non-delivery reports every time to see who needs to be deleted from the
list
: or get an address update? Any purpose-built mass mailing application,
whether
: hosted or local, should be able to process those NDRs and make that task
: easier. Some ISPs also offer Mailman or other list software as part of
their
: package; it doesn't hurt to ask.
: --
: Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
: Author of Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
: for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
:
:
:
:
: "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:
:
: On Sunday, September 07, 2008 6:14 PM
: Gregg Hill wrote:
:
: Thank you to all who responded!
: Thank you to all who responded!
:
: Gregg Hill
:
:
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[Jay Parker]

Diane if your friend sends email regularly to his/her subscribers, using a standard email delivery will definite be limited and time consuming.

Email service like Dada Mail and PHPlist allows you to schedule and limit the per/hour send so you don't go over your limit.

Also hosting if one of the most important thing you should consider as their email send limit are usually a lot more than Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo and AOL.

Here's a list of different service providers and their comparison:

http://www.bigdealsonweb.com/193/hostings-maximum-daily-hourly-email-sending-limit/

I hope that helps

Diane,

How can one send to 500 people if one's ISP limits messages to about 50
recipients per message? I just had someone tell me that he has to break down
his email blast to his clients into groups of 25-30 or they will not send.
He has almost 500 people to whom he sends a monthly update.

No, he is not a spammer. These people are his legitimate clients.

Gregg Hill

On Sunday, September 07, 2008 3:03 AM Ben M. Schorr - MVP (OneNote) wrote:
Either break it into groups that are within the ISPs limits, get a
different ISP that doesn't limit you, or use a 3rd party service that
will send out your e-mail blasts for you.

--
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
http://www.officeforlawyers.com
Author - The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007:
http://tinyurl.com/5m3f5q



"Gregg Hill" <greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot com>
wrote in message news:[email protected]:

On Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:17 AM Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote:
With a list that large, I'd look into using real list software. I'd avoid
yahoogroups for business, but there are apps you can run on your network
(and with your domain) that will send them 1 at a time... you may or may not
hit limits with the ISP though - some have min and/or hourly limits too.

You can use mail merge so only 1 name per message or a utility that slows
sending so you don't hit limits. See
http://www.slipstick.com/addins/massmail.asp for a list of utilities.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]





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"Gregg Hill" <greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot com> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...

On Friday, April 30, 2010 10:37 PM Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote:
A mail merge and a utility the limits the number of messages per minute will
get past most isp limitations - unless they have a daily limit. But it
really is better to use a commercial service for large blasts. They'll send
a lot faster than outlook ever can.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

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