How To By-pass Viewing Spam

[Jim]

While I was using Outlook Express with Win XP I could turn off Spam Mail
while viewing Newsgroups but, since I started Vista Home
version I can't find a way to prevent from showing up, can any one provide
information such as
how to by-pass spam mail within Newsgroups - or is this something that I
have to live with within Windows Mail?

Jim

 

[Tom Koch]

While I was using Outlook Express with Win XP I could turn off Spam Mail
while viewing Newsgroups but, since I started Vista Home
version I can't find a way to prevent from showing up, can any one provide
information such as
how to by-pass spam mail within Newsgroups - or is this something that I
have to live with within Windows Mail?

Outlook Express had no spam filtering at all, not in mail nor in newsgroups.
Were you perhaps using a 3rd party tool for that?

You can always use Message Rules to filter out stuff, but it's not always
easy to write effective rules against newsgroup spam. The exception is in
binary newsgroups, where the real posts tend to be quite large and the spam
tends to be very small. See this for examples:
http://www.insideoe.com/tips/rules.htm

 

[Jim]

Maybe I did not express myself properly but, as an example I use
alt.support.Alzheimer's for information on Dementia which I have but,
unfortunately there are and I called them spammers that advertize such as
"Looking for Fake Watches" from: (e-mail address removed) - under Outlook
Express I could suppress "Subjects and related information" from appearing.
Can the same be done under Windows Mail?

Jim

 

[Guest]

While I was using Outlook Express with Win XP I could turn off Spam Mail
while viewing Newsgroups but, since I started Vista Home
version I can't find a way to prevent from showing up, can any one provide
information such as
how to by-pass spam mail within Newsgroups - or is this something that I
have to live with within Windows Mail?

Jim

If it arrives within newsgroups, it's still spam, but not spam mail. It's
called
spam posts instead.

If it's from a spammer who keeps using the same return address (most of
them don't), click on Message, then Create Rule From Message, on News
if the next window displays this option, then Delete it, then Mark it as
read,
then scroll down in this section and click on Stop processing more rules,
then OK. After this you may still see any other messages you have already
downloaded from this spammer, but any you download later with the same
return address should be immediately deleted without waiting for you to read
them.

There is a similar option for spammers who keep putting something in the
subject line that doesn't appear in the subject lines of any posts you want
to
read, but even after looking for months, I haven't found any way to
eliminate
all of the spam posts without creating assorted problems in Windows Mail.
There are a few programs available said to eliminate more spam, but most
of them also tend to create problems in the Windows Mail program.
These problems tend to slow to appear, though - often months.

I'm looking into a program called Newsproxy that should add more options
on how to select what to eliminate, and run in a way that doesn't create
problems in Windows Mail, but so far it looks harder to set up than the
above options.

Robert Miles

 

[Guest]

Outlook Express had no spam filtering at all, not in mail nor in
newsgroups. Were you perhaps using a 3rd party tool for that?

You can always use Message Rules to filter out stuff, but it's not always
easy to write effective rules against newsgroup spam. The exception is in
binary newsgroups, where the real posts tend to be quite large and the
spam tends to be very small. See this for examples:
http://www.insideoe.com/tips/rules.htm

..
Note that the parts of that website that refer to deleting messages from the
server apply only to mail, not the newsgroup posts he is trying to filter.
You can create rules to stop downloading more of a newsgroup post
from the server than just the header, but not to remove it from the server.

Also, I've found that in many binaries newsgroups, there tend to be many
comments on the binary files, about the same size as the spam posts.
Therefore, eliminating messages in these newsgroups based on size alone
is often not a good idea.

Robert Miles

 

[Jim]

You are correct it is spam post and I did not mean to be able to remove from
web - I meant for I as an individual not wanting to see it in my window, at
my age sometimes it's hard enough to see or read answers in between the spam
posters and under win xp I could do that.

Jim

 

[Tom Koch]

Jim, yes you can do the same in Windows Mail as you did in Outlook Express.
On the Tools menu, point to Message Rules, then click News. You can now
define rules to filter out by subject, or by sender, etc.

The link I posted earlier was incorrect. That one is for mail message rules,
although the principle is the same in news as in mail. As Robert pointed
out, the actions possible in a rule are not quite the same for news and
mail. But you should be able to do what you want regardless.

See also http://www.insideoe.com/tips/binaries.htm for using message rules
in binaries newsgroups.

 

[Tom Koch]

Hi Robert,

Note that the parts of that website that refer to deleting messages from
the
server apply only to mail, not the newsgroup posts he is trying to filter.
You can create rules to stop downloading more of a newsgroup post
from the server than just the header, but not to remove it from the
server.

All true, but you can also choose to "delete" in a news rule, which is I
think what Jim is loooking for.

Also, I've found that in many binaries newsgroups, there tend to be many
comments on the binary files, about the same size as the spam posts.
Therefore, eliminating messages in these newsgroups based on size alone
is often not a good idea.

Not if you read the comments, no. I never bothered with them myself.