How to burn Video DVD with VCD quality videos?

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hsyq8xg

I am new in burning DVDs, so please bear with me.

Several years ago when I visited China, I bought some video dics that
contain footage of beautiful scenery in China.

Each disc has like 7 - 9 episodes that lasts 60 minute each, some even
contain as many as 12 episodes, which means, for each DVD, I get to
enjoy watching 7 - 12 hours of movie on my TV, as compared to 1 hour
and 12 minutes of video that I can get on one VCD.

I have a whole bunch of home-made VCDs which contains all types of
family events, from weddings to birthdays to outings to birth to new
year celebration to baptism, and so on.

Many of those footage I converted from old VHS tapes.

And this get me thinking ---

Why don't I compile some of the VCD footage and burn them into DVDs?

Take those video DVD that I bought from China for example --- instead
of 7 VCDs, now I can group them into ONE DVD.

So I thought.

I powered on my Nero, ripping out the video files (AVI) from the VCDs,
and trying to burn them into Video DVDs.

Nero complaints !!

It just won't allow me to do so.

According to Nero, I must convert the video files into some other
format, and only after that, Nero will let me create my own Video
DVDs.

But that defeat the whole purpose, isn't it?

I mean, those footages that were originally from VHS aren't High
Definition format at all !

Plus, the VCD video that were originally for the non-digital TVs were
like 543X480 or whatever resolution.

If I were to convert those non-HD quality video files into whatever
Nero wants me to convert, they will STILL BE non-HD quality.

Plus, if I convert them, their file size would just BALLOONED, without
having any improvement on video resolution at all.

In essence, if I were to follow Nero's demand, one DVD disk can only
handle the (converted) footages from 3 VCDs.

That's is a real bummer !

So.... Is anyone here ever tried burning low-definition video footages
into Video DVDs?

If so, please help !

I need to know how to do it, without having to BALLOON the file size
of those low-definition video footages.

And it looks like Nero won't work with me on this thing ...... So, can
anyone tell me which software that I can use to create Video DVDs with
original VCD video files?

Please give me any suggestion that you might have.

Thank you all !!!
 
B

Bill in Co.

I am new in burning DVDs, so please bear with me.

Several years ago when I visited China, I bought some video dics that
contain footage of beautiful scenery in China.

Each disc has like 7 - 9 episodes that lasts 60 minute each, some even
contain as many as 12 episodes, which means, for each DVD, I get to
enjoy watching 7 - 12 hours of movie on my TV, as compared to 1 hour
and 12 minutes of video that I can get on one VCD.

I have a whole bunch of home-made VCDs which contains all types of
family events, from weddings to birthdays to outings to birth to new
year celebration to baptism, and so on.

Many of those footage I converted from old VHS tapes.

And this get me thinking ---

Why don't I compile some of the VCD footage and burn them into DVDs?

Take those video DVD that I bought from China for example --- instead
of 7 VCDs, now I can group them into ONE DVD.

So I thought.

I powered on my Nero, ripping out the video files (AVI) from the VCDs,
and trying to burn them into Video DVDs.

Nero complaints !!

It just won't allow me to do so.

According to Nero, I must convert the video files into some other
format, and only after that, Nero will let me create my own Video
DVDs.

But that defeat the whole purpose, isn't it?

I mean, those footages that were originally from VHS aren't High
Definition format at all !

Plus, the VCD video that were originally for the non-digital TVs were
like 543X480 or whatever resolution.

If I were to convert those non-HD quality video files into whatever
Nero wants me to convert, they will STILL BE non-HD quality.

Plus, if I convert them, their file size would just BALLOONED, without
having any improvement on video resolution at all.

In essence, if I were to follow Nero's demand, one DVD disk can only
handle the (converted) footages from 3 VCDs.

That's is a real bummer !

So.... Is anyone here ever tried burning low-definition video footages
into Video DVDs?

If so, please help !

I need to know how to do it, without having to BALLOON the file size
of those low-definition video footages.

And it looks like Nero won't work with me on this thing ...... So, can
anyone tell me which software that I can use to create Video DVDs with
original VCD video files?

Please give me any suggestion that you might have.

Thank you all !!!

This has little to do with the newsgroup windowsxp.general, so why is it
crossposted here?

But in general, whenever you go from one video format to another, a
conversion WILL be needed. And you cannot improve the video resolution of
the source, no matter what you do.

Google is your friend, for all these questions you have. Also check out
www.videohelp.com.
 
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Hari Hari Mau

This has little to do with the newsgroup windowsxp.general, so why is it
crossposted here?

But in general, whenever you go from one video format to another, a
conversion WILL be needed.   And you cannot improve the video resolution of
the source, no matter what you do.

Google is your friend, for all these questions you have.   Also check outwww.videohelp.com.

Maybe the guy is using winxp ? Ever thought of that possibility??
 
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Hari Hari Mau

All I can find online is the term "DVD-VCD".

At this page www.gromkov.com/faq/faq2004-0070.html -- you scroll
towards the middle, under the "Other non-standard special DVD formats"
banner, there's a listing of "DVD-VCD"

At this page www.afterdawn.com/glossary/terms/dvd-vcd.cfm -- it has
the following info:

"Actually a very misleading term, since DVD-Video specs clearly state
that VCD-encoded video content is perfectly within the specs of DVD-
Video as well (with the exception of audio, which in VCD is 44.1kHz
and in DVD 48kHz).

But basically, DVD-VCD, is just a "clever" way to stating that we're
speaking of DVD-Video disc that has material on it which has been
encoded by using MPEG-1 video format with same definitions as VCD has
(same resolution, same bitrate, etc).

If you're interested of transferring your existing VCD movies to a DVD
format, this process is relatively painless -- as stated before, only
real difference between VCD and one of the allowed DVD-Video specs is
the fact that the audio frequency needs to be changed from VCD's
44.1kHz to DVD-Video's 48kHz."

Unfortunately, if you click on the "our guide" link, you'll get to
www.afterdawn.com/guides/ which has NOTHING about "DVD-VCD"

You can also go to this page www.digitalfaq.com/dvdguides/convert/vcdtodvd/vcdtodvd.htm
-- which has a better documentation on how to do it.

This page www.dvd-guides.com/content/view/57/59/ -- also has some
useful information

Finally back to afterdawn ( www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/vcd_to_dvd-r.cfm
) which also has info on how to put your VCD into DVD.
 
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Hari Hari Mau

Yeah I did.   So what?    This is a windows operating system support group.

So the guy is using Nero, which runs on WinXP, and he couldn't do what
he wanted to do, so he post his message here.

What's wrong with that??
 
A

alanglloyd

When I'm on the road, I power/recharge my notebook using a cigarette
lighter adapter. �I start experiencing a problem with my notebookwhen
it's on that power source.

Do I go to a discussion group for the brand of car I drive and expect
to get help?
If you believe in a logical approach to problem diagnosing - yes. The
only thing that has changed in the notebook context is that it is in
the car. So its connection to the car, or the car environment, or the
car power supply is the cause.

Someone on the car NG may have had the same problem & its solution.
They may know that there is an EMC (electro-magnetic compatibility)
issue with the car, or its power socket.

OTOH the car NG will be fairly ignorant of such things & you will be
lucky to get an answer. Whereas on _this_ NG there are a lot of
posters who are expert on the whole OS program environment, incuding
standards of interfacing.

Be relaxed about other's ignorance of protocol <g>

Alan Lloyd
 
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Martin Heffels

When I'm on the road, I power/recharge my notebook using a cigarette
lighter adapter. I start experiencing a problem with my notebook when
it's on that power source.

Do I go to a discussion group for the brand of car I drive and expect
to get help?

EFF NO.

You're a bozo.

You should obviously not discuss it in the carmakers discussion group,
but also in the Windows XP group. So obvious!

;-0

-m-
 
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Impmon

According to Nero, I must convert the video files into some other
format, and only after that, Nero will let me create my own Video
DVDs.

But that defeat the whole purpose, isn't it?

nero is not the best program for making DVD from video file. They are
somewhat stiff and inflexible.

I use TMPGEnc with great result. You can use MPG1 to make standard VCD
file with audio at 48KHz for proper DVD playback, VCD standard is
44KHz so check that before encoding files. Then you can throw
together all the VCD that will fit onto a DVD. I've gotten 450 minutes
or 7.5 hours on single 4.7GB DVD. If you plan to make the DVD with
menu (animated menu particularly) be sure to leave some space so hold
off at about 7 hours.

If the source video is VHS, VCD is generally the best since most VHS
tape are recorded at nearly the same resolution as standard VCD (262
lines for NTSC), going for higher DVD resolution would be a waste of
space and time.

You can find some free guides starting here at:
<http://www.videohelp.com/oldguides/vcddvdr>
 
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Impmon

[snip]
When I'm on the road, I power/recharge my notebook using a cigarette
lighter adapter. I start experiencing a problem with my notebook when
it's on that power source.

Do I go to a discussion group for the brand of car I drive and expect
to get help?

EFF NO.

You're a bozo.

Flame and rant group this way ---->

Trolling try going to alt.test instead, you'll get lots of email
responses.

Lastly your problem can still be win xp related. Ever thought Win Xp
power management setting got messed up when using car adapter?

Now I'm off that way <---- to killfile group.
 
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mkmkmlml

I am new in burning DVDs, so please bear with me.

Several years ago when I visited China, I bought some video dics that
contain footage of beautiful scenery in China.

Each disc has like 7 - 9 episodes that lasts 60 minute each, some even
contain as many as 12 episodes, which means, for each DVD, I get to
enjoy watching 7 - 12 hours of movie on my TV, as compared to 1 hour
and 12 minutes of video that I can get on one VCD.

I have a whole bunch of home-made VCDs which contains all types of
family events, from weddings to birthdays to outings to birth to new
year celebration to baptism, and so on.

Many of those footage I converted from old VHS tapes.

And this get me thinking ---

Why don't I compile some of the VCD footage and burn them into DVDs?

Take those video DVD that I bought from China for example --- instead
of 7 VCDs, now I can group them into ONE DVD.

So I thought.

I powered on my Nero, ripping out the video files (AVI) from the VCDs,
and trying to burn them into Video DVDs.

Nero complaints !!

It just won't allow me to do so.

According to Nero, I must convert the video files into some other
format, and only after that, Nero will let me create my own Video
DVDs.

But that defeat the whole purpose, isn't it?

I mean, those footages that were originally from VHS aren't High
Definition format at all !

Plus, the VCD video that were originally for the non-digital TVs were
like 543X480 or whatever resolution.

If I were to convert those non-HD quality video files into whatever
Nero wants me to convert, they will STILL BE non-HD quality.

Plus, if I convert them, their file size would just BALLOONED, without
having any improvement on video resolution at all.

In essence, if I were to follow Nero's demand, one DVD disk can only
handle the (converted) footages from 3 VCDs.

That's is a real bummer !

So.... Is anyone here ever tried burning low-definition video footages
into Video DVDs?

If so, please help !

I need to know how to do it, without having to BALLOON the file size
of those low-definition video footages.

And it looks like Nero won't work with me on this thing ...... So, can
anyone tell me which software that I can use to create Video DVDs with
original VCD video files?

Please give me any suggestion that you might have.

Thank you all !!!

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can also save anything up to 90% off retail price, thus increasing
your profit margins by buying at extremely low wholesale prices
Welcome to visit our website !
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R

RickMerrill

Bill in Co. wrote:
.... And you cannot improve the video resolution of
the source, no matter what you do.
....

Where'd you get that fallacy? Or are you saying that there is nothing
the USER can do? Or are you being a stickler about the meaning of the
word "resolution" - i.e. it means what YOU want it to mean?

Consider the hardware that upconverts SD 720 to HD1080, and the tricks
that the major broadcasters use to improve the quality of their image
AFTER the camera.
 
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Richard Crowley

Bill in Co. wrote:
... And you cannot improve the video resolution of
...

Where'd you get that fallacy? Or are you saying that there is nothing the
USER can do? Or are you being a stickler about the meaning of the word
"resolution" - i.e. it means what YOU want it to mean?

Consider the hardware that upconverts SD 720 to HD1080, and the tricks
that the major broadcasters use to improve the quality of their image
AFTER the camera.

Perhaps it depends on what you think "improve" means.
Upconverting 720 to 1080 doesn't "improve" anything
by my definition of "improve". Do you think it uses some
kind of magic to create the missing 360 lines ex nihilo?
 
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RickMerrill

Richard said:
...

Perhaps it depends on what you think "improve" means.
Upconverting 720 to 1080 doesn't "improve" anything
by my definition of "improve". Do you think it uses some
kind of magic to create the missing 360 lines ex nihilo?

Interpolation is hardly magic, but it literally adds "resolution."

It is not done out of nothing, however.
 
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Smarty

Richard Crowley said:
Making it easier to watch does not add resolution.
You put it in quotes indicating that you don't believe it yourself.


Just to add my 2 cents...

Strictly speaking, the process is extrapolation rather than interpolation,
since the new points being created do not lie within the existing image
pixel array spacings but instead lie within the space created by the larger
(up-rezed) space. There is no new information and no new content whatsoever,
as Richard already has pointed out, and the resolution has not been
increased or improved.

There are numerous strategies for improving the perceived image which
exploit various visual and cognitive phenomena, and these have been applied
to "fool" our eyes and brains. Yves Faroudja became rather wealthy and
famous quite a few years ago in capitalizing on these types of things. Edge
enhancement is a simple example. They are sometimes applied in addition to
extrapolations to rationally justify up-rezzing, but they should never be
considered a true improvement or increase in resolution. They simply are
not.

Smarty
 

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