How much we know about Vista?

R

RC

The latest OS from Microsoft is Vista.
How much we know about it?

All I want to know are do Vista

1. Implemented user allowing login time?
this has implemented in XP by the
net user userid /time: ... command

2. Set maximum login time for each user?

3. Auto logout when user reaches the maximum login time
or reaches the allowing login time, whichever come
first.

Currently, 2. and 3. are not available in XP, but available in NT.

You should understand why I ask these questions if you have
teenager(s) at home.
 
J

Jim

RC said:
The latest OS from Microsoft is Vista.
How much we know about it?
Not quite yet. The "final" version is almost here.
All I want to know are do Vista

1. Implemented user allowing login time?
this has implemented in XP by the
net user userid /time: ... command

2. Set maximum login time for each user?

3. Auto logout when user reaches the maximum login time
or reaches the allowing login time, whichever come
first.

Currently, 2. and 3. are not available in XP, but available in NT.

You should understand why I ask these questions if you have
teenager(s) at home.
Jim
 
K

Ken Blake

RC said:
The latest OS from Microsoft is Vista.


No, Windows Vista is not the latest because it isn't out. Only a beta (test)
version is available. Vista is expected to be released around the beginning
of the year, although it's always possible that it could be late.

How much we know about it?


Anything you find out about it now will reflect only what the current beta
version does. Although it's getting late for major changes now, there are
still never guarantess that tere won't be differences when it's released.
 
N

NoStop

It's in BETA, they aren't done with it yet.
And by the looks of things and rumours of further delays, it'll be sometime
yet before they've "done with it". And by past experience, it'll probably
take a number of SPs before they're close to "done with it". :)


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A

--Alias--

NoStop said:
And by the looks of things and rumours of further delays, it'll be sometime
yet before they've "done with it". And by past experience, it'll probably
take a number of SPs before they're close to "done with it". :)

I'm not going to go anywhere near it until SP2 comes out.

Alias
 
N

NoStop

I'm not going to go anywhere near it until SP2 comes out.
You don't appear to be alone in this assessment Alias. Here's an interesting
article on the state of affairs when in comes to Fista:

http://www.toptechnews.com/story.xhtml?story_id=1110083YRM69

Some quotes from the article:

"I have been testing Microsoft operating systems since Windows 95, and this
is the buggiest OS I've seen this late in development," says Joe Wilcox, an
analyst with Jupiter Research. "Look at the older operating systems, and by
Beta 2 there is a stable foundation on which the [independent software
vendors] can build. Right now, Vista is like a ship on stormy seas."

"A survey of 207 companies released by Jupiter Research last week shows that
nearly 50% of these 100-plus-employee outfits will wait at least 13 months
after release to deploy Vista -- or won't deploy it at all."

"Put the testing aside, I can't find a valid antivirus software that works
with it," says Michael Cherry, an analyst with research firm Directions on
Microsoft. "That is a key application and runs at a core level. If the
antivirus vendors, who work closely with Microsoft, can't get Vista
working, then the core is not stable."




--
A Windows user finally clues in and sets up a dual boot system and loves
it!:

http://www.winxperts.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=1377

The ULTIMATE Windoze Fanboy:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2370205018226686613

The New and Improved Ballmer:


Is this a modern day equivalent of a Nazi youth rally?:

http://www.ntk.net/media/developers.mpg

A 3D Linux Desktop (video) ...


View Some Common Linux Desktops ...
http://shots.osdir.com/
 
D

Dan

<snip>

I still wonder about the core of Microsoft products. XP uses NT (New
Technology) that early Microsoft engineers called Not There as compared
to the 9x source code. Chris Quirke, MVP talks about the problem of XP
not having a maintenance operating system to fall back upon when there
is trouble. At least 9x has DOS. I still find 98SE to be stable on my
dual-boot computer with 98SE and XP PRO. I feel a lot of early problems
for 98SE were that there were poorly written drivers for the hardware
devices on 98SE and that caused a lot of blue screens of death.
Fortunately, my system on either side does not seem to have too many
problems. I think Microsoft may have to start from the ground up to
develop a stable core operating system.

http://cquirke.mvps.org/whatmos.htm

http://cquirke.mvps.org/
 
N

NoStop

<snip>

I still wonder about the core of Microsoft products. XP uses NT (New
Technology) that early Microsoft engineers called Not There as compared
to the 9x source code. Chris Quirke, MVP talks about the problem of XP
not having a maintenance operating system to fall back upon when there
is trouble. At least 9x has DOS. I still find 98SE to be stable on my
dual-boot computer with 98SE and XP PRO. I feel a lot of early problems
for 98SE were that there were poorly written drivers for the hardware
devices on 98SE and that caused a lot of blue screens of death.
Fortunately, my system on either side does not seem to have too many
problems. I think Microsoft may have to start from the ground up to
develop a stable core operating system.
I agree with you Dan. Apple was able to do it with the Mac O/S. They
essentially dumped ALL their earlier code and built a new o/s running on
top of FreeBSD. Hence, Apple has both a much more secure o/s than Microsoft
and certainly one of the more innovative desktops. Linux on the other hand
has just been screaming forward with new innovations, incredible stability
and security and a desktop now that would suite any computer user. The next
big step for Linux, coming soon to a new kernel will be real time
operations, like we've seen in real time operating systems like QNX. The
development of Xen and the ability to so easily gain super computer
capabilities by simply clustering Linux boxes, means Linux is leading the
innovation curve. Microsoft is going to have to rethink its whole operating
system and rewrite it from scratch. Failure to do so will just be dumping
more code on already old code that is ladden with security and stability
problems. To compound matters for Microsoft, the new paradigm in computing
looks to be an evolving web services model, where applications are server
based and accessible by any browser. This model may well lower the o/s to a
very basic role - enough to get a browser working. What could be better
than simply having something like a Linux LiveCD boot up the o/s (with
total security as turning off the computer ends everything), launch a
browser and then the user is away and working with web services? I'm sure
Microsoft is starting to sweat big time over how sad their future looks.
Their other main cash cow besides their toy operating system is their
proprietary office suite, which is so easily replaced now by the free
OpenOffice based on open standards which governments and the business
community are beginning to demand more and more.

Any thinking and somewhat advanced computer user, imho, should seriously
start looking at alternatives rather than continuing down the deadend path
of Fista and proprietary Microsoft "operating systems".


--
A Windows user finally clues in and sets up a dual boot system and loves
it!:

http://www.winxperts.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=1377

The ULTIMATE Windoze Fanboy:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2370205018226686613

The New and Improved Ballmer:


Is this a modern day equivalent of a Nazi youth rally?:

http://www.ntk.net/media/developers.mpg

A 3D Linux Desktop (video) ...


View Some Common Linux Desktops ...
http://shots.osdir.com/
 

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