person in the entire world. Everyone told me how SIMPLE Front page was... INancy said:
--- once you've blown up a few you get over the fear.person in the entire world. Everyone told me how SIMPLE Front page was... INancy said:
most ignorant person in the entire world. Everyone told
...anyway it's great. But like any new thing you try to learn you have to actually dig in and experiment.just doesn't make sense to me..... even the simple products you buy comeCraig said:
"Learning to walk"; "Looking up online tutorials"; "Buying books", etc....
directions. LOL!
Craig said:Joe -
Although I have suggested to my namesake that he get a book on FrontPage, your
comment that it would be "next to impossible to include step by step
instructions for FrontPage since the combinations of what you can do with
creating web sites are infinite" is absolutely ridiculous. Using that "logic",
it would be next to impossible to include step by step instructions for a word
processor, or an image processor, or a music sequencing program, or even a
spreadsheet.
No, [IMHO] the reason there are no step by step instructions is because:
1. They're actually difficult to write clearly
2. They're expensive to print
3. They're expensive to print
Software companies, seeking to maximize their profits, have stopped supplying
decent documentation because they've learned that they can get away with it.
[/IMHO]
Craig
Joe Rohn wrote:
Hi Craig,
Being a little frustrated when you first start out in something is
understandable!
That being said... It would be next to impossible to include step by step
instructions for the use of FrontPage since the combinations of what you can
do with creating web sites are infinite!
As others mentioned there are huge amounts of information available in print
and on the web for using FrontPage.
As a possible starting point here's one:
http://www.icemocha.com/tutorials.htm
There are definitely a few gazillion others though!
--
Joe
Forum Crafters:
http://www.forumcrafters.com
FrontPage Users Forums:
http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
just doesn't make sense to me..... even the simple products you buy come
with instructions, it only stands to reason that something that is difficult
to use should DEFINITELY come with directions. I mean it only makes sense to
me that they would want people who buy their product to know how to use it,
and have a pleasant experience with it.
"Learning to walk"; "Looking up online tutorials"; "Buying books", etc....
directions. LOL!
Craig Schiller said:Joe -
Although I have suggested to my namesake that he get a book on FrontPage, your
comment that it would be "next to impossible to include step by step
instructions for FrontPage since the combinations of what you can do with
creating web sites are infinite" is absolutely ridiculous. Using that "logic",
it would be next to impossible to include step by step instructions for a word
processor, or an image processor, or a music sequencing program, or even a
spreadsheet.
No, [IMHO] the reason there are no step by step instructions is because:
1. They're actually difficult to write clearly
2. They're expensive to print
3. They're expensive to print
Software companies, seeking to maximize their profits, have stopped supplying
decent documentation because they've learned that they can get away with it.
[/IMHO]
Craig
Joe said:Hi Craig,
Being a little frustrated when you first start out in something is
understandable!
That being said... It would be next to impossible to include step by step
instructions for the use of FrontPage since the combinations of what you can
do with creating web sites are infinite!
As others mentioned there are huge amounts of information available in print
and on the web for using FrontPage.
As a possible starting point here's one:
http://www.icemocha.com/tutorials.htm
There are definitely a few gazillion others though!
--
Joe
Forum Crafters:
http://www.forumcrafters.com
FrontPage Users Forums:
http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
it
just doesn't make sense to me..... even the simple products you buy come
with instructions, it only stands to reason that something that is difficult
to use should DEFINITELY come with directions. I mean it only makes sense to
me that they would want people who buy their product to know how to use it,
and have a pleasant experience with it.
"Learning to walk"; "Looking up online tutorials"; "Buying books", etc....
directions. LOL!
Kelly said:Another reason they stopped is because until you become familiar with
the program, you didn't even know how to ask the question and software
companies got a great deal of grief about it.
Craig said:Joe -
Although I have suggested to my namesake that he get a book on FrontPage, your
comment that it would be "next to impossible to include step by step
instructions for FrontPage since the combinations of what you can do with
creating web sites are infinite" is absolutely ridiculous. Using that "logic",
it would be next to impossible to include step by step instructions for a word
processor, or an image processor, or a music sequencing program, or even a
spreadsheet.
No, [IMHO] the reason there are no step by step instructions is because:
1. They're actually difficult to write clearly
2. They're expensive to print
3. They're expensive to print
Software companies, seeking to maximize their profits, have stopped supplying
decent documentation because they've learned that they can get away with it.
[/IMHO]
Craig
Joe Rohn wrote:
Hi Craig,
Being a little frustrated when you first start out in something is
understandable!
That being said... It would be next to impossible to include step by step
instructions for the use of FrontPage since the combinations of what you can
do with creating web sites are infinite!
As others mentioned there are huge amounts of information available in print
and on the web for using FrontPage.
As a possible starting point here's one:
http://www.icemocha.com/tutorials.htm
There are definitely a few gazillion others though!
--
Joe
Forum Crafters:
http://www.forumcrafters.com
FrontPage Users Forums:
http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
Well, I guess I'll have to buy some books or look for online help, but it
just doesn't make sense to me..... even the simple products you buy come
with instructions, it only stands to reason that something that is difficult
to use should DEFINITELY come with directions. I mean it only makes sense to
me that they would want people who buy their product to know how to use it,
and have a pleasant experience with it.
So, here I go..... "getting my feet wet"; "Jumping in head first";
"Learning to walk"; "Looking up online tutorials"; "Buying books", etc....
Or, I could have just opened up the FrontPage 2003 box and read the
directions. LOL!
person in the entire world. Everyone told me how SIMPLE Front page was... INancy said:
Joe said:Craig,
While your point about cost may have some merit...that's about it. The
Encylopedia Britannica wouldn't be big enough to hold all of the possible
combinations of creating web sites with FrontPage. There is extensive online
and offline help included with the product (while I admit I too feel that is
lacking at times and also could be written better) Even with those possible
shortfalls.. there is still way more information as to "How to" then could
be crammed into some silly 4 page manual as to how to use FrontPage.
People simply need to learn how to use the help files..and if they can't
find it there..then go for alternatives.
A simple search in the offline help section of FrontPage 2003 for "create a
web site" comes back with this:
Create a Web site
1. On the File menu, click New.
2. In the New task pane, under New Web site, click the type of Web site that
you want to create.
3. Click the Web site template that you want.
4. Locate and click the location where you want to publish your site, and
then click Open.
Notes
You can either publish your site to a local directory or folder on your hard
disk or network, or publish it to the Internet where your account is
located.
If you create a SharePoint site, you must publish it to a server running
Microsoft SharePoint Services.
--
Joe
Forum Crafters:
http://www.forumcrafters.com
FrontPage Users Forums:
http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
Craig Schiller said:Joe -
Although I have suggested to my namesake that he get a book on FrontPage, your
comment that it would be "next to impossible to include step by step
instructions for FrontPage since the combinations of what you can do with
creating web sites are infinite" is absolutely ridiculous. Using that "logic",
it would be next to impossible to include step by step instructions for a word
processor, or an image processor, or a music sequencing program, or even a
spreadsheet.
No, [IMHO] the reason there are no step by step instructions is because:
1. They're actually difficult to write clearly
2. They're expensive to print
3. They're expensive to print
Software companies, seeking to maximize their profits, have stopped supplying
decent documentation because they've learned that they can get away with it.
[/IMHO]
Craig
Joe said:Hi Craig,
Being a little frustrated when you first start out in something is
understandable!
That being said... It would be next to impossible to include step by step
instructions for the use of FrontPage since the combinations of what you can
do with creating web sites are infinite!
As others mentioned there are huge amounts of information available in print
and on the web for using FrontPage.
As a possible starting point here's one:
http://www.icemocha.com/tutorials.htm
There are definitely a few gazillion others though!
--
Joe
Forum Crafters:
http://www.forumcrafters.com
FrontPage Users Forums:
http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
Well, I guess I'll have to buy some books or look for online help, but it
just doesn't make sense to me..... even the simple products you buy come
with instructions, it only stands to reason that something that is difficult
to use should DEFINITELY come with directions. I mean it only makes sense to
me that they would want people who buy their product to know how to use it,
and have a pleasant experience with it.
So, here I go..... "getting my feet wet"; "Jumping in head first";
"Learning to walk"; "Looking up online tutorials"; "Buying books", etc....
Or, I could have just opened up the FrontPage 2003 box and read the
directions. LOL!