How do I prevent Frontpage from changing (and breaking) my relati.

G

Guest

HELP! PLEASE!
Frontpage 2003 repeatedly changes my functioning relative links, most are
modified to point to the root directory C:, some to file:///c:... , and some
receive multiple ../ prefixes that do not lead to the proper folder.

I have tried defining base locations for the files under Properties, but the
file location is greyed out & I can't force a fix here. Is this another
problem - or a symptom of the same one? I think the latter?

I've spent days fixing links only to have them modified willy nilly and
broken by FP.

I've tried finding where to 'preserve html' in FP2003, but the current menu
options are not the same (referring to prior suggestion for similar problem
in a former version of FP) .

Yes, I built my site in folders ...is there any hope?
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

You have to create a web first, then open the web and create your pages.
You sound like you just been creating pages without having a web.
--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;fp10se
===
| HELP! PLEASE!
| Frontpage 2003 repeatedly changes my functioning relative links, most are
| modified to point to the root directory C:, some to file:///c:... , and
some
| receive multiple ../ prefixes that do not lead to the proper folder.
|
| I have tried defining base locations for the files under Properties, but
the
| file location is greyed out & I can't force a fix here. Is this another
| problem - or a symptom of the same one? I think the latter?
|
| I've spent days fixing links only to have them modified willy nilly and
| broken by FP.
|
| I've tried finding where to 'preserve html' in FP2003, but the current
menu
| options are not the same (referring to prior suggestion for similar
problem
| in a former version of FP) .
|
| Yes, I built my site in folders ...is there any hope?
|
|
|
 
G

Guest

I was under the impression that you could create a web and import existing
files and folders...I did this, and things were working fine with relative
links - in files and folders in a web. But now the links are primarily
broken and change back (to broken) if I fix them.

Any suggestions on how to fix my mess - and keep it that way?
 
R

Rick Budde

You have to create a Front Page web (File | Open | Page
or Web | Web). This is a special folder that is in
essence a "mirror" of what your site will be when
published to your host server. Plain old Windows file
folders won't cut it!
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo

Does the folder containing your web have a little blue globe on it? If it looks like a regular windows folder (no globe) you don't have a web..you have a normal folder with web pages in it.



| I was under the impression that you could create a web and import existing
| files and folders...I did this, and things were working fine with relative
| links - in files and folders in a web. But now the links are primarily
| broken and change back (to broken) if I fix them.
|
| Any suggestions on how to fix my mess - and keep it that way?
|
| "Tom Pepper Willett" wrote:
|
| > You have to create a web first, then open the web and create your pages.
| > You sound like you just been creating pages without having a web.
| > --
| > ===
| > Tom "Pepper" Willett
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > ---
| > About FrontPage 2003:
| > http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| > FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
| > http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| > Understanding FrontPage:
| > http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
| > FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;fp10se
| > ===
| > | > | HELP! PLEASE!
| > | Frontpage 2003 repeatedly changes my functioning relative links, most are
| > | modified to point to the root directory C:, some to file:///c:... , and
| > some
| > | receive multiple ../ prefixes that do not lead to the proper folder.
| > |
| > | I have tried defining base locations for the files under Properties, but
| > the
| > | file location is greyed out & I can't force a fix here. Is this another
| > | problem - or a symptom of the same one? I think the latter?
| > |
| > | I've spent days fixing links only to have them modified willy nilly and
| > | broken by FP.
| > |
| > | I've tried finding where to 'preserve html' in FP2003, but the current
| > menu
| > | options are not the same (referring to prior suggestion for similar
| > problem
| > | in a former version of FP) .
| > |
| > | Yes, I built my site in folders ...is there any hope?
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
| >
 
G

Guest

Please clarify - I have multiple *.htm documents inside folders that reside
inside a web. Do I have to convert all of the folders to subwebs to get the
links to work? But they were already working - and changed!
 
G

Guest

Yes, the folder containing the web has the globe, but the folders inside
that are regular folders. So, do all of those folders also need to be
converted?

(as a side item, frankly, I'm afraid to 'convert' them because of the
warning that pops up.>>>
"pages w/o files may not be updated"
"hyperlinks on link bars may be removed"
"themes on pgs may be lost"....)
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo

Try Tools | Recalculate Hyperlinks on local machine, then Publish again.

If that doesn't work try opening the onlline web with FP, and do a Recalculate Hyperlinks directly on the server.


| Please clarify - I have multiple *.htm documents inside folders that reside
| inside a web. Do I have to convert all of the folders to subwebs to get the
| links to work? But they were already working - and changed!
|
| "Rick Budde" wrote:
|
| > You have to create a Front Page web (File | Open | Page
| > or Web | Web). This is a special folder that is in
| > essence a "mirror" of what your site will be when
| > published to your host server. Plain old Windows file
| > folders won't cut it!
| >
| > >-----Original Message-----
| > >I was under the impression that you could create a web
| > and import existing
| > >files and folders...I did this, and things were working
| > fine with relative
| > >links - in files and folders in a web. But now the
| > links are primarily
| > >broken and change back (to broken) if I fix them.
| > >
| > >Any suggestions on how to fix my mess - and keep it that
| > way?
| > >
| > >"Tom Pepper Willett" wrote:
| > >
| > >> You have to create a web first, then open the web and
| > create your pages.
| > >> You sound like you just been creating pages without
| > having a web.
| > >> --
| > >> ===
| > >> Tom "Pepper" Willett
| > >> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > >> ---
| > >> About FrontPage 2003:
| > >> http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?
| > assetid=FX01085802
| > >> FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
| > >>
| > http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default
| > ..mspx
| > >> Understanding FrontPage:
| > >>
| > http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
| > >> FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
| > >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-
| > us;fp10se
| > >> ===
| > >> "Begging4u2help"
| > message
| > >> | > (e-mail address removed)...
| > >> | HELP! PLEASE!
| > >> | Frontpage 2003 repeatedly changes my functioning
| > relative links, most are
| > >> | modified to point to the root directory C:, some to
| > file:///c:... , and
| > >> some
| > >> | receive multiple ../ prefixes that do not lead to
| > the proper folder.
| > >> |
| > >> | I have tried defining base locations for the files
| > under Properties, but
| > >> the
| > >> | file location is greyed out & I can't force a fix
| > here. Is this another
| > >> | problem - or a symptom of the same one? I think the
| > latter?
| > >> |
| > >> | I've spent days fixing links only to have them
| > modified willy nilly and
| > >> | broken by FP.
| > >> |
| > >> | I've tried finding where to 'preserve html' in
| > FP2003, but the current
| > >> menu
| > >> | options are not the same (referring to prior
| > suggestion for similar
| > >> problem
| > >> | in a former version of FP) .
| > >> |
| > >> | Yes, I built my site in folders ...is there any hope?
| > >> |
| > >> |
| > >> |
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >.
| > >
| >
 
G

Guest

Sorry Rob I missed your first comment & responded to the second one in my
last reply

This is a web that is destined to be CD-based. It contains over 1,900 files
and over 230 folders.

I tried to recalculate several times, and it has only gotten worse. The
first time, the web was located inside 'mydocs/mywebs' and paths clear down
to the root c: were assigned in place of my relative links. This wouldn't
have been quite so bad if they were at least correct - but they don't even
work.

So I fixed the primary links in 'reports', created a new web at C:,
imported the content to that web, and tried to recalculate, thinking that I
could check the links there, and then just change from c: to e: when I save
it to CD. But once again, the links go not just to c:, but the whole OLD
(wrong) path from c:... ...mydocs/mywebs/etc.

This web is not destined to go online. I searched and found documentation
that a couple of other people had the same problem, but that was a couple of
years ago. The fixes that they suggested in 2000 and 2002 do not work with
FP2003 (see my first post, this string), and those old strings never reached
a solid conclusion either.

Please help! I'm in deep doo doo. boo hoo.
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo

NO...don't convert the folders within the already 'globed' web...unless you want subwebs.


| Yes, the folder containing the web has the globe, but the folders inside
| that are regular folders. So, do all of those folders also need to be
| converted?
|
| (as a side item, frankly, I'm afraid to 'convert' them because of the
| warning that pops up.>>>
| "pages w/o files may not be updated"
| "hyperlinks on link bars may be removed"
| "themes on pgs may be lost"....)
|
| "Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" wrote:
|
| > Does the folder containing your web have a little blue globe on it? If it looks like a regular windows folder (no globe) you don't have a web..you have a normal folder with web pages in it.
| >
| >
| >
| > | I was under the impression that you could create a web and import existing
| > | files and folders...I did this, and things were working fine with relative
| > | links - in files and folders in a web. But now the links are primarily
| > | broken and change back (to broken) if I fix them.
| > |
| > | Any suggestions on how to fix my mess - and keep it that way?
| > |
| > | "Tom Pepper Willett" wrote:
| > |
| > | > You have to create a web first, then open the web and create your pages.
| > | > You sound like you just been creating pages without having a web.
| > | > --
| > | > ===
| > | > Tom "Pepper" Willett
| > | > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > | > ---
| > | > About FrontPage 2003:
| > | > http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| > | > FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
| > | > http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| > | > Understanding FrontPage:
| > | > http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
| > | > FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;fp10se
| > | > ===
| > | > | > | > | HELP! PLEASE!
| > | > | Frontpage 2003 repeatedly changes my functioning relative links, most are
| > | > | modified to point to the root directory C:, some to file:///c:... , and
| > | > some
| > | > | receive multiple ../ prefixes that do not lead to the proper folder.
| > | > |
| > | > | I have tried defining base locations for the files under Properties, but
| > | > the
| > | > | file location is greyed out & I can't force a fix here. Is this another
| > | > | problem - or a symptom of the same one? I think the latter?
| > | > |
| > | > | I've spent days fixing links only to have them modified willy nilly and
| > | > | broken by FP.
| > | > |
| > | > | I've tried finding where to 'preserve html' in FP2003, but the current
| > | > menu
| > | > | options are not the same (referring to prior suggestion for similar
| > | > problem
| > | > | in a former version of FP) .
| > | > |
| > | > | Yes, I built my site in folders ...is there any hope?
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
 
?

=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo

If you are creating pages properly, within FP web, you shouldn't have to mess with any of the links..FP takes care of all that for you.

When you Publish it the links should be correct.



| Sorry Rob I missed your first comment & responded to the second one in my
| last reply
|
| This is a web that is destined to be CD-based. It contains over 1,900 files
| and over 230 folders.
|
| I tried to recalculate several times, and it has only gotten worse. The
| first time, the web was located inside 'mydocs/mywebs' and paths clear down
| to the root c: were assigned in place of my relative links. This wouldn't
| have been quite so bad if they were at least correct - but they don't even
| work.
|
| So I fixed the primary links in 'reports', created a new web at C:,
| imported the content to that web, and tried to recalculate, thinking that I
| could check the links there, and then just change from c: to e: when I save
| it to CD. But once again, the links go not just to c:, but the whole OLD
| (wrong) path from c:... ...mydocs/mywebs/etc.
|
| This web is not destined to go online. I searched and found documentation
| that a couple of other people had the same problem, but that was a couple of
| years ago. The fixes that they suggested in 2000 and 2002 do not work with
| FP2003 (see my first post, this string), and those old strings never reached
| a solid conclusion either.
|
| Please help! I'm in deep doo doo. boo hoo.
|
| "Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" wrote:
|
| > Try Tools | Recalculate Hyperlinks on local machine, then Publish again.
| >
| > If that doesn't work try opening the onlline web with FP, and do a Recalculate Hyperlinks directly on the server.
| >
| >
| > | Please clarify - I have multiple *.htm documents inside folders that reside
| > | inside a web. Do I have to convert all of the folders to subwebs to get the
| > | links to work? But they were already working - and changed!
| > |
| > | "Rick Budde" wrote:
| > |
| > | > You have to create a Front Page web (File | Open | Page
| > | > or Web | Web). This is a special folder that is in
| > | > essence a "mirror" of what your site will be when
| > | > published to your host server. Plain old Windows file
| > | > folders won't cut it!
| > | >
| > | > >-----Original Message-----
| > | > >I was under the impression that you could create a web
| > | > and import existing
| > | > >files and folders...I did this, and things were working
| > | > fine with relative
| > | > >links - in files and folders in a web. But now the
| > | > links are primarily
| > | > >broken and change back (to broken) if I fix them.
| > | > >
| > | > >Any suggestions on how to fix my mess - and keep it that
| > | > way?
| > | > >
| > | > >"Tom Pepper Willett" wrote:
| > | > >
| > | > >> You have to create a web first, then open the web and
| > | > create your pages.
| > | > >> You sound like you just been creating pages without
| > | > having a web.
| > | > >> --
| > | > >> ===
| > | > >> Tom "Pepper" Willett
| > | > >> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > | > >> ---
| > | > >> About FrontPage 2003:
| > | > >> http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?
| > | > assetid=FX01085802
| > | > >> FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
| > | > >>
| > | > http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default
| > | > ..mspx
| > | > >> Understanding FrontPage:
| > | > >>
| > | > http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
| > | > >> FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
| > | > >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-
| > | > us;fp10se
| > | > >> ===
| > | > >> "Begging4u2help"
| > | > message
| > | > >> | > | > (e-mail address removed)...
| > | > >> | HELP! PLEASE!
| > | > >> | Frontpage 2003 repeatedly changes my functioning
| > | > relative links, most are
| > | > >> | modified to point to the root directory C:, some to
| > | > file:///c:... , and
| > | > >> some
| > | > >> | receive multiple ../ prefixes that do not lead to
| > | > the proper folder.
| > | > >> |
| > | > >> | I have tried defining base locations for the files
| > | > under Properties, but
| > | > >> the
| > | > >> | file location is greyed out & I can't force a fix
| > | > here. Is this another
| > | > >> | problem - or a symptom of the same one? I think the
| > | > latter?
| > | > >> |
| > | > >> | I've spent days fixing links only to have them
| > | > modified willy nilly and
| > | > >> | broken by FP.
| > | > >> |
| > | > >> | I've tried finding where to 'preserve html' in
| > | > FP2003, but the current
| > | > >> menu
| > | > >> | options are not the same (referring to prior
| > | > suggestion for similar
| > | > >> problem
| > | > >> | in a former version of FP) .
| > | > >> |
| > | > >> | Yes, I built my site in folders ...is there any hope?
| > | > >> |
| > | > >> |
| > | > >> |
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >.
| > | > >
| > | >
| >
 
G

Guest

Rob - I sincerely appreciate your responses - but FP is definitively not
taking care of the links. The web does recognize the pages - if that is any
sign that they were done properly. Once again - the relative links were
working fine - until FP updated / recalculated them.

I'm most likely doing something wrong - any other suggestions on what to
check?

The prior discussions that I reviewed came up with two basic issues -
stopping the FP recalc function, OR inserting base paths OR avoiding base
paths like the plague...but those old strings ended without resolution, and
this is FP2003.

So:
Is there a way to stop FP from updating / recalculating links?
Should I be defining base paths for all pages?
Should I avoid base paths in all pages?
should I only set a base path for the home page?

I'll grasp at any straw offered. Thanks.
*************
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo

Have you Published the web to your online server yet?...post the URL

I'm getting lost in what you are trying to do...forgive this old fart...

When you say you are specifying paths...how come?...are you hand coding stuff in code view?



| Rob - I sincerely appreciate your responses - but FP is definitively not
| taking care of the links. The web does recognize the pages - if that is any
| sign that they were done properly. Once again - the relative links were
| working fine - until FP updated / recalculated them.
|
| I'm most likely doing something wrong - any other suggestions on what to
| check?
|
| The prior discussions that I reviewed came up with two basic issues -
| stopping the FP recalc function, OR inserting base paths OR avoiding base
| paths like the plague...but those old strings ended without resolution, and
| this is FP2003.
|
| So:
| Is there a way to stop FP from updating / recalculating links?
| Should I be defining base paths for all pages?
| Should I avoid base paths in all pages?
| should I only set a base path for the home page?
|
| I'll grasp at any straw offered. Thanks.
| *************
| "Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" wrote:
|
| > NO...don't convert the folders within the already 'globed' web...unless you want subwebs.
| >
| >
| > | Yes, the folder containing the web has the globe, but the folders inside
| > | that are regular folders. So, do all of those folders also need to be
| > | converted?
| > |
| > | (as a side item, frankly, I'm afraid to 'convert' them because of the
| > | warning that pops up.>>>
| > | "pages w/o files may not be updated"
| > | "hyperlinks on link bars may be removed"
| > | "themes on pgs may be lost"....)
| > |
| > | "Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Does the folder containing your web have a little blue globe on it? If it looks like a regular windows folder (no globe) you don't have a web..you have a normal folder with web pages in it.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | I was under the impression that you could create a web and import existing
| > | > | files and folders...I did this, and things were working fine with relative
| > | > | links - in files and folders in a web. But now the links are primarily
| > | > | broken and change back (to broken) if I fix them.
| > | > |
| > | > | Any suggestions on how to fix my mess - and keep it that way?
| > | > |
| > | > | "Tom Pepper Willett" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > You have to create a web first, then open the web and create your pages.
| > | > | > You sound like you just been creating pages without having a web.
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > ===
| > | > | > Tom "Pepper" Willett
| > | > | > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > | > | > ---
| > | > | > About FrontPage 2003:
| > | > | > http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| > | > | > FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
| > | > | > http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| > | > | > Understanding FrontPage:
| > | > | > http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
| > | > | > FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
| > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;fp10se
| > | > | > ===
| > | > | > | > | > | > | HELP! PLEASE!
| > | > | > | Frontpage 2003 repeatedly changes my functioning relative links, most are
| > | > | > | modified to point to the root directory C:, some to file:///c:... , and
| > | > | > some
| > | > | > | receive multiple ../ prefixes that do not lead to the proper folder.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | I have tried defining base locations for the files under Properties, but
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | file location is greyed out & I can't force a fix here. Is this another
| > | > | > | problem - or a symptom of the same one? I think the latter?
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | I've spent days fixing links only to have them modified willy nilly and
| > | > | > | broken by FP.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | I've tried finding where to 'preserve html' in FP2003, but the current
| > | > | > menu
| > | > | > | options are not the same (referring to prior suggestion for similar
| > | > | > problem
| > | > | > | in a former version of FP) .
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Yes, I built my site in folders ...is there any hope?
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| >
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Make sure that when you work on your pages after having create a web / site in FP, that you always
open the web first, then open your pages and that all content has been imported or create within the
current open FP web / site.

The folder within the web do not need to be convert to subwebs / subsite. However it might be best
to publish this site to a folder right off the C drive, such as, c:\myCDsite, then continue to work
on if from there.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
 
G

Guest

Rob - please read my 4th post (7th this string). There I explain what I'm
trying for. You may have missed it because I answered you out of order my
accident.

Not to be redundant, but this web is destined for CD, not the www.

I have specified some paths by hand coding in code view and also via browser.
Why? It escapes me at the moment. Sometimes because I was designating a
link for a page that did not yet exist (these links worked once those files
were placed in the proper structure). There are many cross links between
pages.

I specified the links to be relative to the folder structure in my hard
disk-based web, which will be duplicated on the CD-based web. THe links
worked. But when I did the following three things (and I tried all three)
they get totally screwed up:

- published it to a CD
- published it to new web right at the root directory
- recalculated the links

the once relative links - even the ones in the new web at the root directory
- now point all the way from c:...to my
documents/mywebs/subjectweb...subjectpage.htm

Also, most of the absolute links that I kept also were screwed up,
(for example http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document) got
changed to file:///pls/owadisp.show_document ??

help?
 
G

Guest

Thomas:
I have tried to develop this web ( and any future web) that way... but I
know that some of the files were copied & pasted rather than 'imported'.
These are not the only files having link issues. What can I do now to fix
this monster?

I have already opened a web right off of C:, and have imported the content
there. I recalculated the links, and they are still as messed up if not
more. If I fix these thousands of links again, are they going to stay the
way I put them? Do I need to avoid recalculating forever? Will I be able to
place the web on CD & use recalculate to get the links to look at E: rather
than C: ? Or should I do search/replace in the code?
 
?

=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo

Is the OSHA web the one you are trying to work with?


| Rob - please read my 4th post (7th this string). There I explain what I'm
| trying for. You may have missed it because I answered you out of order my
| accident.
|
| Not to be redundant, but this web is destined for CD, not the www.
|
| I have specified some paths by hand coding in code view and also via browser.
| Why? It escapes me at the moment. Sometimes because I was designating a
| link for a page that did not yet exist (these links worked once those files
| were placed in the proper structure). There are many cross links between
| pages.
|
| I specified the links to be relative to the folder structure in my hard
| disk-based web, which will be duplicated on the CD-based web. THe links
| worked. But when I did the following three things (and I tried all three)
| they get totally screwed up:
|
| - published it to a CD
| - published it to new web right at the root directory
| - recalculated the links
|
| the once relative links - even the ones in the new web at the root directory
| - now point all the way from c:...to my
| documents/mywebs/subjectweb...subjectpage.htm
|
| Also, most of the absolute links that I kept also were screwed up,
| (for example http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document) got
| changed to file:///pls/owadisp.show_document ??
|
| help?
|
| "Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" wrote:
|
| > Have you Published the web to your online server yet?...post the URL
| >
| > I'm getting lost in what you are trying to do...forgive this old fart...
| >
| > When you say you are specifying paths...how come?...are you hand coding stuff in code view?
| >
| >
| >
| > | Rob - I sincerely appreciate your responses - but FP is definitively not
| > | taking care of the links. The web does recognize the pages - if that is any
| > | sign that they were done properly. Once again - the relative links were
| > | working fine - until FP updated / recalculated them.
| > |
| > | I'm most likely doing something wrong - any other suggestions on what to
| > | check?
| > |
| > | The prior discussions that I reviewed came up with two basic issues -
| > | stopping the FP recalc function, OR inserting base paths OR avoiding base
| > | paths like the plague...but those old strings ended without resolution, and
| > | this is FP2003.
| > |
| > | So:
| > | Is there a way to stop FP from updating / recalculating links?
| > | Should I be defining base paths for all pages?
| > | Should I avoid base paths in all pages?
| > | should I only set a base path for the home page?
| > |
| > | I'll grasp at any straw offered. Thanks.
| > | *************
| > | "Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" wrote:
| > |
| > | > NO...don't convert the folders within the already 'globed' web...unless you want subwebs.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | Yes, the folder containing the web has the globe, but the folders inside
| > | > | that are regular folders. So, do all of those folders also need to be
| > | > | converted?
| > | > |
| > | > | (as a side item, frankly, I'm afraid to 'convert' them because of the
| > | > | warning that pops up.>>>
| > | > | "pages w/o files may not be updated"
| > | > | "hyperlinks on link bars may be removed"
| > | > | "themes on pgs may be lost"....)
| > | > |
| > | > | "Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Does the folder containing your web have a little blue globe on it? If it looks like a regular windows folder (no globe) you don't have a web..you have a normal folder with web pages in it.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | I was under the impression that you could create a web and import existing
| > | > | > | files and folders...I did this, and things were working fine with relative
| > | > | > | links - in files and folders in a web. But now the links are primarily
| > | > | > | broken and change back (to broken) if I fix them.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Any suggestions on how to fix my mess - and keep it that way?
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "Tom Pepper Willett" wrote:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > You have to create a web first, then open the web and create your pages.
| > | > | > | > You sound like you just been creating pages without having a web.
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > ===
| > | > | > | > Tom "Pepper" Willett
| > | > | > | > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > | > | > | > ---
| > | > | > | > About FrontPage 2003:
| > | > | > | > http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| > | > | > | > FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
| > | > | > | > http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| > | > | > | > Understanding FrontPage:
| > | > | > | > http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
| > | > | > | > FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
| > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;fp10se
| > | > | > | > ===
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | HELP! PLEASE!
| > | > | > | > | Frontpage 2003 repeatedly changes my functioning relative links, most are
| > | > | > | > | modified to point to the root directory C:, some to file:///c:... , and
| > | > | > | > some
| > | > | > | > | receive multiple ../ prefixes that do not lead to the proper folder.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | I have tried defining base locations for the files under Properties, but
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | file location is greyed out & I can't force a fix here. Is this another
| > | > | > | > | problem - or a symptom of the same one? I think the latter?
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | I've spent days fixing links only to have them modified willy nilly and
| > | > | > | > | broken by FP.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | I've tried finding where to 'preserve html' in FP2003, but the current
| > | > | > | > menu
| > | > | > | > | options are not the same (referring to prior suggestion for similar
| > | > | > | > problem
| > | > | > | > | in a former version of FP) .
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Yes, I built my site in folders ...is there any hope?
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| >
 
G

Guest

It is one of many. The web (that I am creating) is an environmental
managment program that will be used by people that will not always have
access to the www. (Also, it is confidential, and the client wants to keep
it in-house). In addition to confidential, site-specific information, the
web includes subfolders with copies of many regulations (OSHA, EPA, DOT,
etc.) downloaded from the www so that the users w/o access to the www can
readily refer to these exciting documents.

I have attempted to maintain the links within these docs that refer to other
www. sites & pages, so that on occasion, the user can check on updates and
pursue these links via the www.

These external links have been broken - apparently via the recalculate tool.
Internal links leading to the downloaded docs have been broken.
Internal links leading from *.htm page to *.htm page have also been broken.

How to fix this & even more importantly - how to prevent it from happening
again?
 
W

Wes

The first rule to remember is that ALL files MUST reside somewhere INSIDE
the web you are creating.
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

When you want to move a web from one location to another, always use File Menu | Publish. By default
FP will always create relative links based on the root of the FP web you are working in. However if
you open a page without opening a web, then FP will create relative links back to the location on
your HD. Can you type an example of your web folder structure?

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Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
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