How do I perform scheduled backup?

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Eric

Under XP, my PC has two HDD, one of them is for backup only. Does anyone have
any suggestions on how to setup a schedule to backup everything from the
first HDD into the second HDD periodically. Furthermore, can I keep 6 months
backup copy? after 6 months, all the past backup will be deleted and release
the storage space for new backup copy. This routine will do it forever.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
Eric
 
J

Jim

Eric said:
Under XP, my PC has two HDD, one of them is for backup only. Does anyone
have
any suggestions on how to setup a schedule to backup everything from the
first HDD into the second HDD periodically. Furthermore, can I keep 6
months
backup copy? after 6 months, all the past backup will be deleted and
release
the storage space for new backup copy. This routine will do it forever.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
Eric
You can schedule backups with ntbackup...
However, a more functional product is Acronis. You can certainly make a
full backup and as may incremental or differential backups as you desire.
Jim
 
E

Eric

Thank you very much for your suggestions
Our office mainly use XP only without server, do you know whether XP has
similar function or not?
Thank you very much for any suggestions
Eric
 
L

Lou

Jim said:
You can schedule backups with ntbackup...
However, a more functional product is Acronis. You can certainly make a
full backup and as may incremental or differential backups as you desire.
Jim

You certainly can perform the backup tasks you desire using Acronis
TrueImage. However, if you wish to validate the backup as part of the
scheduled backup, Acronis TrueImage V10 and V11 are sorely lacking. A
better product would be Norton Ghost.

I am currently running Norton Ghost version 10 on 2 XP systems and Norton
Ghost version 12 on an XP and Vista system. In my setup, I configure Norton
Ghost to keep a specified number of backups regardless of when the backup
was taken.

Lou
 
N

Nonny

You certainly can perform the backup tasks you desire using Acronis
TrueImage. However, if you wish to validate the backup as part of the
scheduled backup, Acronis TrueImage V10 and V11 are sorely lacking. A
better product would be Norton Ghost.

How so? I've been using ATI since ver. 7 without a hitch - am
currently quite happy with ver 11.
 
D

David Webb

I too have been using Acronis True Image since V7, but I've only been using the
scheduled backup feature on V11 and it does indeed provide the option to
validate the backup.

It works like a charm, but it doubles the backup time at a minimum and even more
if it's running in a Vista system (based on my experience).
 
J

Jim

Nonny said:
How so? I've been using ATI since ver. 7 without a hitch - am
currently quite happy with ver 11.
Placing my reply close to the question...
What the previous poster means is that ATI does not provide a method for
insuring that what the program sent to the backup file actually got there
error free. In short, this is a test of the entire
system (computer + backup software). Whether you need such a facility or
not depends on how reliable you believe your hardware is.
Jim
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Under XP, my PC has two HDD, one of them is for backup only. Does anyone have
any suggestions on how to setup a schedule to backup everything from the
first HDD into the second HDD periodically. Furthermore, can I keep 6 months
backup copy? after 6 months, all the past backup will be deleted and release
the storage space for new backup copy. This routine will do it forever.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions


You've already gotten answers to your specific question, but I wanted
to add a comment.

If I were you, I would rethink your backup strategy. What you are
doing is better than no backup at all, but not by a lot. I don't
recommend backup to a second non-removable hard drive because it
leaves you susceptible to simultaneous loss of the original and backup
to many of the most common dangers: severe power glitches, nearby
lightning strikes, virus attacks, even theft of the computer.

In my view, secure backup needs to be on removable media, and not kept
in the computer. For really secure backup (needed, for example, if the
life of your business depends on your data) you should have multiple
generations of backup, and at least one of those generations should be
stored off-site.

My computer isn't used for business, but my personal backup scheme
uses two identical removable hard drives. I alternate between the two,
and use Acronis True Image to make a complete copy of the primary
drive.

Take that drive out of the computer, put in an external USB enclosure
($20-25 US, and very easy to do), and connect it only when you are
backing up or restoring, and you will have a much more secure backup
technique. Better, do what I do, and use two such drives in external
enclosures.

Also, doing a backup only every six months is way too seldom for
almost everyone.
 
N

Nonny

Placing my reply close to the question...
What the previous poster means is that ATI does not provide a method for
insuring that what the program sent to the backup file actually got there
error free. In short, this is a test of the entire
system (computer + backup software). Whether you need such a facility or
not depends on how reliable you believe your hardware is.

For as long as I can remember, ATI has had a "verify" function that
follows the backup. I can't remember when it didn't.
 
L

Lou

Nonny said:
How so? I've been using ATI since ver. 7 without a hitch - am
currently quite happy with ver 11.

TrueImage does have an automatic validate function. However, when you
schedule a backup and specify validation, it validates every backup on the
backup location, even the ones previously validated. On one of my systems,
backup takes about 20 minutes as does the validation. Since I keep 6
backups, every scheduled backup with validation takes 20 minutes to backup
and 2 hours (6 x 20) to validate. It not only validates the most recent
backup, it re-validates every prior backup taken on that location. You can
manually validate only the last backup taken if you choose to do so but I
prefer an automated process.

For my purpose, Norton Ghost has the same capability as TrueImage and does
not have auto validation deficiency.

Lou
 
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Lou

You are correct, TrueImage does provide the option to validate the backup.
But, if you specify validation with backup, TrueImage validates the last
backup taken as well as every backup on the backup location even though they
have been previously validated.

Assuming you keep 6 backups and specify validation with a scheduled backup.
Further assume it takes 20 minutes to backup and 20 minutes to validate that
backup. Each scheduled backup will take 2 hours and 20 minutes to run - 20
minutes for backup and 20 minutes for each of the six backups. The oldest
backup will have been validated 6 times by the time the TrueImage limit
count deletes. Totally unnecessary processing.

Norton Ghost provides all the backup functions I need and does not have that
flaw when scheduling backups with validation.

Lou
 
N

Nonny

TrueImage does have an automatic validate function. However, when you
schedule a backup and specify validation, it validates every backup on the
backup location, even the ones previously validated. On one of my systems,
backup takes about 20 minutes as does the validation. Since I keep 6
backups, every scheduled backup with validation takes 20 minutes to backup
and 2 hours (6 x 20) to validate. It not only validates the most recent
backup, it re-validates every prior backup taken on that location.

I've never seen that happen. Never. And I do both manual and
automated backups.
 
D

David Webb

I've never experienced that behavior using Acronis True Image. The scheduled
backup simply replaces the previous set since the same file names are used and
the manual backups are in their own dated folders.
 
N

Nonny

I've never experienced that behavior using Acronis True Image. The scheduled
backup simply replaces the previous set since the same file names are used and
the manual backups are in their own dated folders.

I think "Lou" lives somewhere in The Twilight Zone
 

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