How do I link a callout (text box) to a graphic in Frontpage 2003.

[Guest]

Hi,

I'm a fairly new user and can't figure out how to link together a graphic or
group of graphics to callouts (text boxes) that describe the graphic. My
design looks fine in FrontPage page view, but when I look at it in a browser
the Callouts have move around relative to the graphics. Can someone help me?
I'm a few hours into this, and getting a bit frustrated.

Thanks,

Phil

 

[Ronx]

Text boxes use VML graphics and absolute positioning, and should be avoided.
VML will only display in Internet Explorer version 5.5 and later, running on
Windows. Absolute Positioning, unless applied correctly, will result in the
relative movement you have seen.

Consider using tables to "tie" your graphics and text together.

Ron

 

[Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage]

you might want to look at assigning a "behavior" to the graphics which
either shows or hides a layer containing the description and/or graphics of
the "call out".

If you have FrontPage 2003 this will be fairly easy calling up the "layers
and behaviors panes" and assigning the actions.

If you don't have 03 check out www.dyn-web.com which has good examples, or
do a search for "overlib", it is a script that does similar, but don't have
the link handy.

HTH

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[clintonG]

overLib
http://www.bosrup.com/web/overlib/


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[Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage]

Thanks!

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[Guest]

Thanks,

So are you saying that I should put both the callout and graphic inside of a
table?

 

[Guest]

Can you elaborate on this? i don't find it easy, I'm not quite sure what
you're telling me. I tried putting the graphic in a 1x1 table as someone else
suggested, recreated the callouts using the layer function--and basically
ended up with the same problem, with the newly made "callouts" (made with
layer command) floating around when viewed in the browser. I'm really
struggling with this, and it seems like it ought to be a pretty standard
thing to do. Please help more if you can.

Phil

 

[Ronx]

Yes and no.
Do not use a callout. Text boxes are bad unless the entire page is
absolutely positioned, AND all your viewers use IE5.5 (or later) on Windows.

For each graphic, use a two cell table, graphic in one cell, the text in the
other cell.

Ron

 

[Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage]

do you have this page you're struggling with on a server? If so give a URL
and we'll take a look. since you've got fp '03 it's not going to be so bad.

do it in split view, find the layer that you've dumped in the sell and look
for code that's like position: relative; and change it to position:
absolute; that should take care of your floating problem.

I just got done doing a GUI for a software product using the layers and
behaviors but I had to go into the code to change the relative to absolute
and for my specific task the visibility: hidden;/ to display:none;

to my surprise fp 03 didn't balk at any of my hand done changes and the
change properties box allowed me to add style.display also.

all in all I'd say fp 03's layers and behaviors features are fairly good but
it helps to know a little bit about JavaScript and style sheet properties.
I guess like with anything else, there's no truly free lunch. ;-)

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[Guest]

Thanks, Chris. There are a couple of them:

http://www.compinfo.us/imagelink/greatpl1.htm

http://www.compinfo.us/imagelink/solomon1.htm

I really appreciate the help.

Phil

 

[Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage]

OK,
I'm looking at it right now in FrontPage.

you want it so when you mouse over the big picture they see the pop up of
what's in those autoshpapes?

I just want to be clear. there are lots of ways to accomplish this so
knowing exactly what you're trying to do would be helpful in giving you the
best answer.

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[Guest]

Chris,

Simpler that that. I want then visible all of the time. The problem is that
I can't seem to anchor them to the same spot, point the the original location
which I put them in. They "float away" when I publish them to the
browser--can you see how they're not point to the right spots?

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Your best option is to put this together in a image/graphic application, then save as a single file
or step the user thru the steps using multiple pages.

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[Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage]

I agree with Thomas.

your call outs are VML autoshapes which aren't totally supported in all
browsers and you've seen how the absolute positioning works as well.

I thought you wanted them to pup-up interactively, I was going to recommend
you make a big graphic, slice it up and use the "properties" to swap the
pertinent slice. since you only want it static, you won't need the slicing
of image or the scripting.

HTH

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