How can I RDC to a PC that uses ICS (not the main PC)?

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CJSnet

Hi, I am in one location and am trying to use Remote Desktop Connection, or
Remote Assistance, to connect to a user through the internet. Here's the
chain:

Me -> Internet -> Main PC ('A') set to use ICS -> Wi-Fi network -> PC I want
to connect to ('B')

The IP address of PC B seems to be the same as PC A, as they both share a
broadband connection. When I try to connect, I am prompted for a
username/password, but it won't let me into PC B with PC B's login, only PC
A works when I use PC A's login.

How can I make this connection to PC B?
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Sooner Al [MVP]

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CJSnet

Thanks, I am calling the IP of PC A, and ICS and the firewall are set to
allow 3389. When I enter the username and password of PC B, it does not log
me into that PC.

I assume it is just looking at PC A, not recognising B's password on A, and
tell me its not valid.

Should RED search all PCs connected to PC A for a valid username/password
then log me in?
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CJSnet

Thanks, I am calling the IP of PC A, and ICS and the firewall are set to
allow 3389. When I enter the username and password of PC B, it does not log
me into that PC.

I assume it is just looking at PC A, not recognising B's password on A, and
tell me its not valid.

Should RED search all PCs connected to PC A for a valid username/password
then log me in?
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CJSnet

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CJSnet

Thanks, I am calling the IP of PC A, and ICS and the firewall are set to
allow 3389. When I enter the username and password of PC B, it does not log
me into that PC.

I assume it is just looking at PC A, not recognising B's password on A, and
tell me its not valid.

Should RDC search all PCs connected to PC A for a valid username/password
then log me in?
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Sooner Al [MVP]

Is Remote Desktop enabled on PC B?

Can you Remote Desktop into PC B from PC A?

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CJSnet

Yup, it's enabled.

How could I connect to PC B from A? Would I enter A's IP address in A's RDC
window, and B's username and password?
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Sooner Al [MVP]

Opsss... I meant can you connect with Remote Desktop from PC A to PC B?

Also, on PC B go to this site and see if it works, ie. the server can find you when you put TCP Port
3389 in the test box...

http://www.canyouseeme.org/

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CJSnet

How could I connect from PC A to B? Would I enter A's IP address in A's RDC
window, and B's username and password?

Will try that site when I can get back to the machine.
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Sooner Al [MVP]

No, you enter PC B's private LAN IP in the address window when you start the Remote Desktop Client
on PC A...

Did you try the other test I mentioned from PC B? That will tell you if port forwarding through PC A
is working or not. What version of the OS is running on PC A?

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CJSnet

Ok, sorry for the delay, I've now had a chance to get back to the computer
myself, and here is the findings:

Port 3389 is seen by the web site you gave me from PC B
I *can* connect to PC B from PC A, using 192.168.0.51
I have made sure remote desktop is enabled on A & B
I have made sure 3389 is passed through ICS

The only way I can connect to PC B is:

1. Connect to PC A
2. On the PC A session open RDC within PC A and connect via LAN to PC B
3. PC B then appears on the screen of PC A, which in turn appears on the
screen of my PC

Is that how you're supposed to do it? I'm sure I used to be able to
directly connect to PC B!

If I try, it still tells me invalid username/password, yet they are the same
ones I use in the 3 point example above, successfully.

Help!
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CJSnet

Could you reply, Sooner? ;)

CJSnet said:
Ok, sorry for the delay, I've now had a chance to get back to the computer
myself, and here is the findings:

Port 3389 is seen by the web site you gave me from PC B
I *can* connect to PC B from PC A, using 192.168.0.51
I have made sure remote desktop is enabled on A & B
I have made sure 3389 is passed through ICS

The only way I can connect to PC B is:

1. Connect to PC A
2. On the PC A session open RDC within PC A and connect via LAN to PC B
3. PC B then appears on the screen of PC A, which in turn appears on the
screen of my PC

Is that how you're supposed to do it? I'm sure I used to be able to
directly connect to PC B!

If I try, it still tells me invalid username/password, yet they are the
same ones I use in the 3 point example above, successfully.

Help!
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Sooner Al [MVP]

Maybe this page will help...The examples for the Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) are from an XP
Pro SP1 machine...

See the references to PC1 (your PC A) and PC2 (your PC B). In your case substitute 192.168.0.51 for
the PC2 (your PC B) example. Note that you have two different ways to do what you want...In either
case call from the remote location using the public IP of PC A.

http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/Multiple_PC_RD.html

Ignore the references to PC3 and PC4 in your case...

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CJSnet

Wow this is complicated!

Anyway, I have done as it states, but am somewhat confused as to how
'redirected port' and 'listening port' relate to what I actually see in
Settings, which is 'incoming port' and 'outgoing port'.

Basically I have added PC B's LAN to PC A's internet connection, but do I
put 3389 or 3390 and which goes in which port box?

Also over on PC B do I need to change the port in the firewall? Currently
it just allows 3389.
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Sooner Al [MVP]

The firewall settings depend on if you use Method 1, Port Redirection, or Method 2, Port
Forwarding...

If you do port forwarding then change the PC B firewall to reflect the new listening port, whatever
that may be. Remember to reboot the PC after you make the registry change...

Personally I think Method 1 is easier...and more straight forward...

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CJSnet

Sorry, I'm still lost :$

I am using method 1 - port redirection and have:

1. Added a new entry on PC A's firewall under my cable modem called
"Remote Desktop 2" and entered PC B's IP address.

2. However I am not sure where to type 3389 and 3390. The article refers
to "listening port" but the window that pops up has no reference to a
'listening' port. All it shows are incoming, outgoing, UDP, TCP. That's 4
choices none of which are mentioned in the article.

My questions at this stage:

A) Do I type 3389 *or* 3390 and if so where?

B) If not, do I type both 3389 in one box *and* 3390 in the other, and if
so which goes where?

C) Do I choose UDP or TCP?

D) Do I need to change any settings over on PC B or do I just leave
Remote Desktop ticked at default 3389 on it?

E) I am just adding the new firewall entry on PC A under my *cable modem*
connection, correct? I don't need to do anything for the LAN connection
that actually goes to PC B, correct?

F) Once all this is done, I just call the public IP for PC A but enter PC
B's login details, and it will magically forward me across, right?

I'm determined not to give up and am normally great at this stuff but this
one has got me confuzzled.
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CJSnet

Sorry Sooner, you don't seem to have answered my questions, just resent the
link that contained the confusing info. Would appreciate helping me finish
off, thanks.
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