How can I combat spam

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W. Guy Delaney

I am using Outlook Express as my mail program

Every day I get 20-30 messages, most of which have attachments and most of
which are identified by Norton AntiVirus as having a virus. This is time
consuming since every e-mail is noted as having a virus so I have to wait
and click, wait and click.

Most of these messages are from "Admin," "Postmaster," Microsoft" (or so
the address says. I know it's not.), "Delivery System," "Inlet Message
Delivery System," "net message service," "Mail Service," "inlet message
storage system," and on and on.

I forward these messages to Verizon and Verizon does nothing. I try to block
these senders in Outlook Express. I try to block these sender's domains on
the Verizon web site. Nothing I do will stop this onslaught of spam.

I know, I could change my e-mail address, and I may. I really don't want to,
however, because I deal with so many folks on line that I could not get my
new e-mail address to them all.

Can anyone help me?
 
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Vanguard

W. Guy Delaney said:
I am using Outlook Express as my mail program

Every day I get 20-30 messages, most of which have attachments and
most of which are identified by Norton AntiVirus as having a virus.
This is time consuming since every e-mail is noted as having a virus
so I have to wait and click, wait and click.

Most of these messages are from "Admin," "Postmaster," Microsoft" (or
so the address says. I know it's not.), "Delivery System," "Inlet
Message Delivery System," "net message service," "Mail Service,"
"inlet message storage system," and on and on.

I forward these messages to Verizon and Verizon does nothing. I try
to block these senders in Outlook Express. I try to block these
sender's domains on the Verizon web site. Nothing I do will stop this
onslaught of spam.

I know, I could change my e-mail address, and I may. I really don't
want to, however, because I deal with so many folks on line that I
could not get my new e-mail address to them all.

Can anyone help me?

See if your e-mail account has an option to enable spam filtering.
You'll need to visit a web page for your ISP that lets you enable
features on your e-mail account. Often then provide a webmail interface
to your mailbox where you can enable this option.

Define some rules in your e-mail client. Until you actually decide to
define some rules, there's no point in me listing the ones that I use.

Get some anti-spam software. A Google search would have showed you LOTS
of choices but you have to look first. I use SpamPal along with several
of its plug-ins, all free. There's SpamNet that works as a plug-in for
Outlook but it costs money. You can double up on anti-spam filtering.
I use SpamPal but SpamAlert came in Norton Internet Security 2003 so I
use it, too.
 
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W. Guy Delaney

Thanks for your suggestions. Do you or anyone else know a good source of
information on how to define e-mail rules in Outlook Express?
 
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Orrie

To fight spam - and viruses/worms -- I use a program named SpamBuster
(www.contactplus.com) that displays a list of the e-mails waiting on the
ISP's server. You then delete the spam before opening your e-mail program.
If you're not sure about a message, you can view the header or the text to
see if you want it or not.

SpamBuster is free for a version with some innocuous ads at the top of the
screen (it isn't spyware; it does not connect out to download new ads), but
with no support. There's a paid version with no ads and support. I use the
freebie. The program comes with many common types of spam already recognized
and it's easy to add new ones to the blacklist. You can also set up a "white
list" in an Exceptions file of people whose e-mails you welcome. It's much
faster to look through the e-mails and check off the spam on the server
without taking the time to download them. SpamBuster does not work with AOL
or Hotmail, though, but then again, neither does Outlook.

Orrie
 
M

Max Jasper

You can combat spam only through moral education and building
character so that individuals be elevated so such praiseworthy
character that they do not spam!!!
Can anyone help me?
 
V

Vanguard

Orrie said:
To fight spam - and viruses/worms -- I use a program named SpamBuster
(www.contactplus.com) that displays a list of the e-mails waiting on
the ISP's server. You then delete the spam before opening your e-mail
program. If you're not sure about a message, you can view the header
or the text to see if you want it or not.

SpamBuster is free for a version with some innocuous ads at the top
of the screen (it isn't spyware; it does not connect out to download
new ads), but with no support. There's a paid version with no ads and
support. I use the freebie. The program comes with many common types
of spam already recognized and it's easy to add new ones to the
blacklist. You can also set up a "white list" in an Exceptions file
of people whose e-mails you welcome. It's much faster to look through
the e-mails and check off the spam on the server without taking the
time to download them. SpamBuster does not work with AOL or Hotmail,
though, but then again, neither does Outlook.

Orrie

Tis easier and without and spam (ads) to use Magic Mail Monitor which
has some rudimentary rules you can define. So you can have it poll for
e-mail and still go through SpamPal to detect which ones are spam.
SpamPal marks suspect e-mail with a header (or optionally with a tag
inserted inserted into the Subject) that you can use a rule to determine
what you want to do with it. Since Magic has rules, you can use a near
equivalent of the one you define in Outlook to handle that spam,
including deleting it from the server. It keeps a log of deletions by
rules so you can check if there was a false positive that got deleted.
You can have whitelists, blacklist, and other rules in Magic, too. So
basically I leave Magic running as an e-mail monitor and with its rules
and SpamPal then it can delete e-mails off the server without ever
bothering to notify me about new e-mails that are spam and getting rid
of them before Outlook ever tries to download them (which would then
also use SpamPal again but then the spam is already gone by Magic's
server-side anti-spam delete rule). Since SpamPal works on *where* the
spam originated (by using DNS/RBL blacklists), Magic does NOT have to
download the body of the e-mail. It can just download the headers (to
keep it fast) to detect and delete spam. And it's all free! I like
free (although you can donate if you feel so compelled to help support
the authors in their fight against spam).

With Magic and SpamPal, I don't have to get bothered with banner ads
(that have to waste bandwidth to show up), I don't have to pay to get
non-crippled or advertising-free versions, more than one account is
supported (as opposed to the 1-account limit for MailWasher), and by
using YahooPOPs and Hotmail Popper than I also have POP3 access to those
webmail services.

I tried using PopTray because it is another e-mail monitor that has
rules. Unfortunately, its "header" rule (to look for strings in the
headers) is not reliable. Eventually Magic will get regular expressions
making it far more potent than PopTray (and maybe even Outlook).

The only irritation that I've run into when using an e-mail monitor
which has rules (so I can delete spam at the server without ever getting
bothered to be notified about the crap) is that sometimes the spam is
too knew to be blacklisted. So I might see a spam still listed in Magic
(because it hasn't been identified as spam yet) but later when I open
Outlook and download the e-mail then it is known by then to be spam and
SpamPal will then mark it and my anti-spam rule in Outlook will delete
it. So the Outlook rule catches the leak that Magic missed because the
spam was too knew to be known as spam because Magic is polling for new
e-mails every 5 or 10 minutes (you configure different poll intervals
for each account).

So for filtering:

- I enable the spam filter on my ISP e-mail account, in Yahoo, and in
Hotmail.

- SpamPal marks the spam which a rule can decide how to handle (i.e.,
delete it). Any POP3/IMAP capable client can use SpamPal, like Outlook
[Express] and Magic.

- Magic polls at short intervals to tell me when there is new e-mail
(but there is no notification for new e-mails that were detected as
spam).

- Magic has rules that I can use to see the SpamPal tag. The rule will
delete the spam at the server. I don't get bothered with notification
of the spam e-mail by Magic (my choice). I don't waste bandwidth or
time to later download the spam into Outlook (through SpamPal) and then
delete it - because the spam already got deleted by a server-side
anti-spam rule in Magic. And because Magic polls at short intervals and
has rules to delete spam at the server, my accounts don't get disabled
because my quota got used up with the spam. You don't have to use rules
in Magic. I suppose you could let it perform like SpamBuster,
MailWasher, and other spam-detecting e-mail monitors where YOU have to
waste time plodding through the e-mails to see which ones they detected
as spam, which ones they missed, and then manually perform all the
deletes at the server.

- If the spam is too knew to get on the public blacklists (so Magic
doesn't know it is spam yet) then it might still get caught as spam when
I later open Outlook to retrieve my e-mails (through SpamPal).

- I think MailWasher has rules (or conditions) but its restriction of
supporting only 1 e-mail account for their freebie version got it
crossed off the list before I even bothered to download it. I didn't
see any mention of rules in SpamBuster. PopTray has slightly better
rules than Magic but PopTray's "header" rules don't work reliably.
Magic has rules and regular expressions are planned.

- About a dozen rules in Outlook catch a few more leaks (actually most
are non-spam nuisance e-mails that I don't want to see).

You also have to consider the attitude of the authors regarding their
anti-spam products. SpamBuster and MailWasher are trying to make a buck
by hoping you'll get fed up with their crippled or spamvertized freebie
versions to buy their "pro" version. SpamPal's author does it all for
free. In fact, he allows reuse of his code in other commercial
products - and for free! - like in SpamSpector which only added an
install wizard and wants to charge $30 for an exact duplicate of the
code in SpamPal (but supposedly they will provide support instead of you
relying on untimely, delayed, or incomplete help in a forum)! See
SpamPal's forum at http://snurl.com/31yp for a discussion about
SpamSpector. Like SpamSpector, SpamBuster also rides atop the public
and free DNS/RBL blacklists that are used by these products (and by
SpamPal) but without any remuneration to those anti-spam sources for all
their work. Remuneration need not be money as these paid-for products
could pump some of their revenues back into the community by providing
mirror servers for the blacklists and downloads. So far, I haven't hear
of any paid-for commercial products supporting the anti-spam community
and instead are just looking to make a buck off of the spam problem.

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V

Vanguard

Max said:
You can combat spam only through moral education and building
character so that individuals be elevated so such praiseworthy
character that they do not spam!!!
Can anyone help me?

Yeah, just say no to drugs! Guy presumably was asking about a
real-world solution, not reefer hallucinations about an imaginary
idealistic non-reality.

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