Hosts file problem

[SF Gordon]

It may be important and it may not be but I think I should tell those that
keep the hosts file for MVPS my problem using their file.What's the best
way?? describe it here or send it somewhere (address unknown). I now have a
hosts file several times larger that does not hinder operating programs in
the background.
thanks

 

[Don Varnau]

Hi,
Post the problem to this newsgroup. Someone (probably not me) should be able
to help.

Don

 

[SF Gordon]

Right
I have a pentium 3 -531MHz-256 RAM
without a host everything works fine

With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background a
attempt to open CNN or Seattle times both will not come up (they appear to
freeze) there are a few others but many sites will come up.

! got another host file (734KB) installed and EVERYTHING works fine . With
the data program in the background all other sites come up

I wrestled with my problem for a long while. Looked at Security,privacy,RAM
etc before I stumbled on to my current configuration. NOW I suspect the MVP
hosts file has something in it that causes the problem. BUT of course I am
not the smartest dog in this pack

 

[Sandi - Microsoft MVP]

Your post has been forwared to the HOSTS file's owner. I hope that you have
used your real email address.

 

[Mike Burgess]

SF Gordon,

With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background"

What "data program"? Does this only occur only when using that program?

I can access CNN and the Seattle Times site with no problem. (using my HOSTS
file)
http://www.cnn.com/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/home/
____________________________________________________________
Mike Burgess [MVP Windows Shell\User] http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Spyware, Adware, Parasites, Hijackers, Trojans, with a HOSTS file
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm [updated 06-06-04]
Please post replies to this Newsgroup, email address is invalid
--

 

[SF Gordon]

Shoot At the suggestion of someone in this network I fixed my email to avoid
problems.They indicated if I made it fairly obvious people who wanted to
email me could figure it out. In this case excel can be forgotten/

Tried the new hosts release and got some change but still have the problem.
Now CNN comes fully up on the screen but freezes and is inoperable. Seattle
times still will not complete and come on the screen

SFG

SF Gordon,

With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background"

What "data program"? Does this only occur only when using that program?

I can access CNN and the Seattle Times site with no problem. (using my HOSTS
file)
http://www.cnn.com/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/home/
____________________________________________________________
Mike Burgess [MVP Windows Shell\User] http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Spyware, Adware, Parasites, Hijackers, Trojans, with a HOSTS file
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm [updated 06-06-04]
Please post replies to this Newsgroup, email address is invalid
--

Right
I have a pentium 3 -531MHz-256 RAM
without a host everything works fine

With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background a
attempt to open CNN or Seattle times both will not come up (they appear to
freeze) there are a few others but many sites will come up.

! got another host file (734KB) installed and EVERYTHING works fine . With
the data program in the background all other sites come up

I wrestled with my problem for a long while. Looked at Security,privacy,RAM
etc before I stumbled on to my current configuration. NOW I suspect the MVP
hosts file has something in it that causes the problem. BUT of course I am
not the smartest dog in this pack

Hi,
Post the problem to this newsgroup. Someone (probably not me) should

be
able

to help.

Don
--
MVP IE/OE
Please reply to the newsgroup so that others may participate.

"SF Gordon" <sfgsr[at]excel.msn.com> wrote in message
It may be important and it may not be but I think I should tell

those
that

keep the hosts file for MVPS my problem using their file.What's the best
way?? describe it here or send it somewhere (address unknown). I now have
a
hosts file several times larger that does not hinder operating

programs

in
the background.
thanks

 

[PA Bear]

Gord, what happens if you're /not/ running eSignal
[http://www.esignal.com/download/default.asp] in the background but /are/
running Mike's HOSTS file? Might the eSignal freeware be the problem?

I know you're familiar with the CWShredder-Ad-aware-Spybot routine. If none
of them (updated) "fix" the problem, run HijackThis and post the log to
http://forums.spywareinfo.com/ or http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30.
Please do not post it here.
--
HTH - Please Reply to This Thread

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spyware.mspx

Shoot At the suggestion of someone in this network I fixed my email to
avoid problems.They indicated if I made it fairly obvious people who
wanted to email me could figure it out. In this case excel can be
forgotten/

Tried the new hosts release and got some change but still have the
problem. Now CNN comes fully up on the screen but freezes and is
inoperable. Seattle times still will not complete and come on the screen

SFG

SF Gordon,

With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background"

What "data program"? Does this only occur only when using that program?

I can access CNN and the Seattle Times site with no problem. (using my
HOSTS file)
http://www.cnn.com/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/home/

Right
I have a pentium 3 -531MHz-256 RAM
without a host everything works fine

With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background
a attempt to open CNN or Seattle times both will not come up (they
appear to freeze) there are a few others but many sites will come up.

! got another host file (734KB) installed and EVERYTHING works fine .
With the data program in the background all other sites come up

"SF Gordon" <sfgsr[at]excel.msn.com> wrote in message
It may be important and it may not be but I think I should tell those
that keep the hosts file for MVPS my problem using their file.What's
the best way?? describe it here or send it somewhere (address
unknown). I now have a hosts file several times larger that does not
hinder operating programs in the background.
thanks

 

[PA Bear]

And what is the other HOSTS file, please?
--
~PA Bear

Shoot At the suggestion of someone in this network I fixed my email to
avoid problems.They indicated if I made it fairly obvious people who
wanted to email me could figure it out. In this case excel can be
forgotten/

Tried the new hosts release and got some change but still have the
problem. Now CNN comes fully up on the screen but freezes and is
inoperable. Seattle times still will not complete and come on the screen

Mike Burgess wrote:
With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the
background"
What "data program"? Does this only occur only when using that program?

I can access CNN and the Seattle Times site with no problem. (using my
HOSTS file)
http://www.cnn.com/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/home/

Right
I have a pentium 3 -531MHz-256 RAM
without a host everything works fine

With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background
a attempt to open CNN or Seattle times both will not come up (they
appear to freeze) there are a few others but many sites will come up.

! got another host file (734KB) installed and EVERYTHING works fine .
With the data program in the background all other sites come up

"SF Gordon" <sfgsr[at]excel.msn.com> wrote in message
It may be important and it may not be but I think I should tell those
that keep the hosts file for MVPS my problem using their file.What's
the best way?? describe it here or send it somewhere (address
unknown). I now have a hosts file several times larger that does not
hinder operating programs in the background.
thanks

 

[SF Gordon]

Did that and did not have any problems. That made me think of memory issues.
So I got a larger hosts file (Ad Hosts) and using it I have no problems.

How in ---- does a nonmember post on the sites you recommend for HiJackthis
log???

sfg

Gord, what happens if you're /not/ running eSignal
[http://www.esignal.com/download/default.asp] in the background but /are/
running Mike's HOSTS file? Might the eSignal freeware be the problem?

I know you're familiar with the CWShredder-Ad-aware-Spybot routine. If none
of them (updated) "fix" the problem, run HijackThis and post the log to
http://forums.spywareinfo.com/ or http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30.
Please do not post it here.
--
HTH - Please Reply to This Thread

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spyware.mspx

Shoot At the suggestion of someone in this network I fixed my email to
avoid problems.They indicated if I made it fairly obvious people who
wanted to email me could figure it out. In this case excel can be
forgotten/

Tried the new hosts release and got some change but still have the
problem. Now CNN comes fully up on the screen but freezes and is
inoperable. Seattle times still will not complete and come on the screen

SFG

SF Gordon,
With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background"
What "data program"? Does this only occur only when using that program?

I can access CNN and the Seattle Times site with no problem. (using my
HOSTS file)
http://www.cnn.com/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/home/

Right
I have a pentium 3 -531MHz-256 RAM
without a host everything works fine

With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background
a attempt to open CNN or Seattle times both will not come up (they
appear to freeze) there are a few others but many sites will come up.

! got another host file (734KB) installed and EVERYTHING works fine .
With the data program in the background all other sites come up

"SF Gordon" <sfgsr[at]excel.msn.com> wrote in message
It may be important and it may not be but I think I should tell those
that keep the hosts file for MVPS my problem using their file.What's
the best way?? describe it here or send it somewhere (address
unknown). I now have a hosts file several times larger that does not
hinder operating programs in the background.
thanks

 

[SF Gordon]

Ad Hosts

And what is the other HOSTS file, please?
--
~PA Bear

Shoot At the suggestion of someone in this network I fixed my email to
avoid problems.They indicated if I made it fairly obvious people who
wanted to email me could figure it out. In this case excel can be
forgotten/

Tried the new hosts release and got some change but still have the
problem. Now CNN comes fully up on the screen but freezes and is
inoperable. Seattle times still will not complete and come on the screen

Mike Burgess wrote:
With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the
background"
What "data program"? Does this only occur only when using that program?

I can access CNN and the Seattle Times site with no problem. (using my
HOSTS file)
http://www.cnn.com/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/home/

Right
I have a pentium 3 -531MHz-256 RAM
without a host everything works fine

With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background
a attempt to open CNN or Seattle times both will not come up (they
appear to freeze) there are a few others but many sites will come up.

! got another host file (734KB) installed and EVERYTHING works fine .
With the data program in the background all other sites come up

"SF Gordon" <sfgsr[at]excel.msn.com> wrote in message
It may be important and it may not be but I think I should tell those
that keep the hosts file for MVPS my problem using their file.What's
the best way?? describe it here or send it somewhere (address
unknown). I now have a hosts file several times larger that does not
hinder operating programs in the background.
thanks

 

[Mike Burgess]

SF Gordon,
It's not a memory issue ... it's eSignal running you thru a "tracker" that's
listed in my HOSTS file that doesn't exist on the other HOSTS file that you
are now using.

If you read the (very scary!) "Privacy Policy" from eSignal you'll see what
I'm saying about the "tracking". That's what happens when you use "freeware"
you give up your privacy in exchange for free stuff, rather that purchasing.

<quote>
While accessing and operating an eSignal product, the eSignal software will
record general statistical and tracking information
</quote>
And I love this one! ...
<quote>
There are, however, some limited circumstances in which we may need to
disclose personally identifiable information about a user without express
consent
<quote>
http://www.esignal.com/disclaimer/default.asp
____________________________________________________________
Mike Burgess [MVP Windows Shell\User] http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Spyware, Adware, Parasites, Hijackers, Trojans, with a HOSTS file
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm [updated 06-06-04]
Please post replies to this Newsgroup, email address is invalid
--

Did that and did not have any problems. That made me think of memory issues.
So I got a larger hosts file (Ad Hosts) and using it I have no problems.

How in ---- does a nonmember post on the sites you recommend for HiJackthis
log???

sfg

Gord, what happens if you're /not/ running eSignal
[http://www.esignal.com/download/default.asp] in the background but /are/
running Mike's HOSTS file? Might the eSignal freeware be the problem?

I know you're familiar with the CWShredder-Ad-aware-Spybot routine. If none
of them (updated) "fix" the problem, run HijackThis and post the log to
http://forums.spywareinfo.com/ or http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30.
Please do not post it here.
--
HTH - Please Reply to This Thread

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spyware.mspx

Shoot At the suggestion of someone in this network I fixed my email to
avoid problems.They indicated if I made it fairly obvious people who
wanted to email me could figure it out. In this case excel can be
forgotten/

Tried the new hosts release and got some change but still have the
problem. Now CNN comes fully up on the screen but freezes and is
inoperable. Seattle times still will not complete and come on the screen

SFG


SF Gordon,
With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background"
What "data program"? Does this only occur only when using that program?

I can access CNN and the Seattle Times site with no problem. (using my
HOSTS file)
http://www.cnn.com/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/home/

Right
I have a pentium 3 -531MHz-256 RAM
without a host everything works fine

With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background
a attempt to open CNN or Seattle times both will not come up (they
appear to freeze) there are a few others but many sites will come up.

! got another host file (734KB) installed and EVERYTHING works fine ..
With the data program in the background all other sites come up

"SF Gordon" <sfgsr[at]excel.msn.com> wrote in message
It may be important and it may not be but I think I should tell those
that keep the hosts file for MVPS my problem using their file.What's
the best way?? describe it here or send it somewhere (address
unknown). I now have a hosts file several times larger that does not
hinder operating programs in the background.
thanks

 

[Ramesh [MVP]]

Great going, Mike

--
Ramesh - Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k

AumHa VSOP: http://www.aumha.org

SF Gordon,
It's not a memory issue ... it's eSignal running you thru a "tracker" that's
listed in my HOSTS file that doesn't exist on the other HOSTS file that you
are now using.

If you read the (very scary!) "Privacy Policy" from eSignal you'll see what
I'm saying about the "tracking". That's what happens when you use "freeware"
you give up your privacy in exchange for free stuff, rather that purchasing.

<quote>
While accessing and operating an eSignal product, the eSignal software will
record general statistical and tracking information
</quote>
And I love this one! ...
<quote>
There are, however, some limited circumstances in which we may need to
disclose personally identifiable information about a user without express
consent
<quote>
http://www.esignal.com/disclaimer/default.asp
____________________________________________________________
Mike Burgess [MVP Windows Shell\User] http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Spyware, Adware, Parasites, Hijackers, Trojans, with a HOSTS file
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm [updated 06-06-04]
Please post replies to this Newsgroup, email address is invalid
--

Did that and did not have any problems. That made me think of memory issues.
So I got a larger hosts file (Ad Hosts) and using it I have no problems.

How in ---- does a nonmember post on the sites you recommend for HiJackthis
log???

sfg

Gord, what happens if you're /not/ running eSignal
[http://www.esignal.com/download/default.asp] in the background but /are/
running Mike's HOSTS file? Might the eSignal freeware be the problem?

I know you're familiar with the CWShredder-Ad-aware-Spybot routine. If none
of them (updated) "fix" the problem, run HijackThis and post the log to
http://forums.spywareinfo.com/ or http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30.
Please do not post it here.
--
HTH - Please Reply to This Thread

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spyware.mspx

Shoot At the suggestion of someone in this network I fixed my email to
avoid problems.They indicated if I made it fairly obvious people who
wanted to email me could figure it out. In this case excel can be
forgotten/

Tried the new hosts release and got some change but still have the
problem. Now CNN comes fully up on the screen but freezes and is
inoperable. Seattle times still will not complete and come on the screen

SFG


SF Gordon,
With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background"
What "data program"? Does this only occur only when using that program?

I can access CNN and the Seattle Times site with no problem. (using my
HOSTS file)
http://www.cnn.com/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/home/

Right
I have a pentium 3 -531MHz-256 RAM
without a host everything works fine

With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background
a attempt to open CNN or Seattle times both will not come up (they
appear to freeze) there are a few others but many sites will come up.

! got another host file (734KB) installed and EVERYTHING works fine ..
With the data program in the background all other sites come up

"SF Gordon" <sfgsr[at]excel.msn.com> wrote in message
It may be important and it may not be but I think I should tell those
that keep the hosts file for MVPS my problem using their file.What's
the best way?? describe it here or send it somewhere (address
unknown). I now have a hosts file several times larger that does not
hinder operating programs in the background.
thanks

 

[PA Bear]

<applause>
--
~PA Bear

SF Gordon,
It's not a memory issue ... it's eSignal running you thru a "tracker"
that's listed in my HOSTS file that doesn't exist on the other HOSTS file
that you are now using.

If you read the (very scary!) "Privacy Policy" from eSignal you'll see
what I'm saying about the "tracking". That's what happens when you use
"freeware" you give up your privacy in exchange for free stuff, rather
that purchasing.

<quote>
While accessing and operating an eSignal product, the eSignal software
will record general statistical and tracking information
</quote>
And I love this one! ...
<quote>
There are, however, some limited circumstances in which we may need to
disclose personally identifiable information about a user without express
consent
<quote>
http://www.esignal.com/disclaimer/default.asp
____________________________________________________________
Mike Burgess [MVP Windows Shell\User] http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Spyware, Adware, Parasites, Hijackers, Trojans, with a HOSTS file
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm [updated 06-06-04]
Please post replies to this Newsgroup, email address is invalid

Did that and did not have any problems. That made me think of memory
issues. So I got a larger hosts file (Ad Hosts) and using it I have no
problems.

How in ---- does a nonmember post on the sites you recommend for
HiJackthis log???

sfg

Gord, what happens if you're /not/ running eSignal
[http://www.esignal.com/download/default.asp] in the background but
/are/ running Mike's HOSTS file? Might the eSignal freeware be the
problem?

I know you're familiar with the CWShredder-Ad-aware-Spybot routine. If
none of them (updated) "fix" the problem, run HijackThis and post the
log to http://forums.spywareinfo.com/ or http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30.
Please do not post it here.
--
HTH - Please Reply to This Thread

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spyware.mspx

SF Gordon wrote:
Shoot At the suggestion of someone in this network I fixed my email to
avoid problems.They indicated if I made it fairly obvious people who
wanted to email me could figure it out. In this case excel can be
forgotten/

Tried the new hosts release and got some change but still have the
problem. Now CNN comes fully up on the screen but freezes and is
inoperable. Seattle times still will not complete and come on the
screen

SFG


SF Gordon,
With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background"
What "data program"? Does this only occur only when using that
program?

I can access CNN and the Seattle Times site with no problem. (using my
HOSTS file)
http://www.cnn.com/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/home/

Right
I have a pentium 3 -531MHz-256 RAM
without a host everything works fine

With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the
background a attempt to open CNN or Seattle times both will not come
up (they appear to freeze) there are a few others but many sites
will come up.

! got another host file (734KB) installed and EVERYTHING works fine .
With the data program in the background all other sites come up

"SF Gordon" <sfgsr[at]excel.msn.com> wrote in message
It may be important and it may not be but I think I should tell
those that keep the hosts file for MVPS my problem using their
file.What's the best way?? describe it here or send it somewhere
(address unknown). I now have a hosts file several times larger
that does not hinder operating programs in the background.
thanks

 

[SF Gordon]

Thank you for a good diagnosis. Now what to do about it beyond finger
pointing. Let me correct you on one assumption, Esignal is NOT free and is
considered by many as one of the top programs in the business. Hope you have
the right esignal. I believe they would like to know about this. Is there a
way to get them with you or are you out of it now???

sfg

SF Gordon,
It's not a memory issue ... it's eSignal running you thru a "tracker" that's
listed in my HOSTS file that doesn't exist on the other HOSTS file that you
are now using.

If you read the (very scary!) "Privacy Policy" from eSignal you'll see what
I'm saying about the "tracking". That's what happens when you use "freeware"
you give up your privacy in exchange for free stuff, rather that purchasing.

<quote>
While accessing and operating an eSignal product, the eSignal software will
record general statistical and tracking information
</quote>
And I love this one! ...
<quote>
There are, however, some limited circumstances in which we may need to
disclose personally identifiable information about a user without express
consent
<quote>
http://www.esignal.com/disclaimer/default.asp
____________________________________________________________
Mike Burgess [MVP Windows Shell\User] http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Spyware, Adware, Parasites, Hijackers, Trojans, with a HOSTS file
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm [updated 06-06-04]
Please post replies to this Newsgroup, email address is invalid
--

Did that and did not have any problems. That made me think of memory issues.
So I got a larger hosts file (Ad Hosts) and using it I have no problems.

How in ---- does a nonmember post on the sites you recommend for HiJackthis
log???

sfg

Gord, what happens if you're /not/ running eSignal
[http://www.esignal.com/download/default.asp] in the background but /are/
running Mike's HOSTS file? Might the eSignal freeware be the problem?

I know you're familiar with the CWShredder-Ad-aware-Spybot routine.

If
none

of them (updated) "fix" the problem, run HijackThis and post the log to
http://forums.spywareinfo.com/ or http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30.
Please do not post it here.
--
HTH - Please Reply to This Thread

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spyware.mspx

SF Gordon wrote:
Shoot At the suggestion of someone in this network I fixed my email to
avoid problems.They indicated if I made it fairly obvious people who
wanted to email me could figure it out. In this case excel can be
forgotten/

Tried the new hosts release and got some change but still have the
problem. Now CNN comes fully up on the screen but freezes and is
inoperable. Seattle times still will not complete and come on the screen

SFG


SF Gordon,
With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background"
What "data program"? Does this only occur only when using that program?

I can access CNN and the Seattle Times site with no problem. (using my
HOSTS file)
http://www.cnn.com/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/home/

Right
I have a pentium 3 -531MHz-256 RAM
without a host everything works fine

With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background
a attempt to open CNN or Seattle times both will not come up (they
appear to freeze) there are a few others but many sites will come up.

! got another host file (734KB) installed and EVERYTHING works

fine

.

With the data program in the background all other sites come up

"SF Gordon" <sfgsr[at]excel.msn.com> wrote in message
It may be important and it may not be but I think I should tell those
that keep the hosts file for MVPS my problem using their file.What's
the best way?? describe it here or send it somewhere (address
unknown). I now have a hosts file several times larger that does not
hinder operating programs in the background.
thanks

 

[PA Bear]

http://www.esignal.com/esignal/, right?

IMHO there are a lot of loopholes in
http://www.esignal.com/disclaimer/default.asp, Gordon, but using it is up to
you. (Lord knows MSN and AOL have similar loopholes.) If you feel
comfortable with it, go ahead and use it with Ad Hosts instead of Mike's
file. He's merely informing you that eSignal *does* "track" you (and your
use of the application) via a third-party website listed in his HOSTS file.
"Informed consent" and all that, get it?

Everyone knows SUVs are more rollover-prone than sedans but millions still
buy and drive 'em (even with Firestone tires <eg>).

Guess I'm just trying to say, "Don't kill the messenger," because I feel
kind of responsible for having pointed you to Mike's pages (most of which
you'll admit have been helpful to you).
--
~PA Bear

Thank you for a good diagnosis. Now what to do about it beyond finger
pointing. Let me correct you on one assumption, Esignal is NOT free and
is considered by many as one of the top programs in the business. Hope
you have the right esignal. I believe they would like to know about this.
Is there a way to get them with you or are you out of it now???

sfg

SF Gordon,
It's not a memory issue ... it's eSignal running you thru a "tracker"
that's listed in my HOSTS file that doesn't exist on the other HOSTS
file that you are now using.

If you read the (very scary!) "Privacy Policy" from eSignal you'll see
what I'm saying about the "tracking". That's what happens when you use
"freeware" you give up your privacy in exchange for free stuff, rather
that purchasing.

<quote>
While accessing and operating an eSignal product, the eSignal software
will record general statistical and tracking information
</quote>
And I love this one! ...
<quote>
There are, however, some limited circumstances in which we may need to
disclose personally identifiable information about a user without express
consent
<quote>
http://www.esignal.com/disclaimer/default.asp
____________________________________________________________
Mike Burgess [MVP Windows Shell\User] http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Spyware, Adware, Parasites, Hijackers, Trojans, with a HOSTS
file http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm [updated 06-06-04]
Please post replies to this Newsgroup, email address is invalid
--

Did that and did not have any problems. That made me think of memory
issues. So I got a larger hosts file (Ad Hosts) and using it I have no
problems.

How in ---- does a nonmember post on the sites you recommend for
HiJackthis log???

sfg
Gord, what happens if you're /not/ running eSignal
[http://www.esignal.com/download/default.asp] in the background but
/are/ running Mike's HOSTS file? Might the eSignal freeware be the
problem?

I know you're familiar with the CWShredder-Ad-aware-Spybot routine. If
none of them (updated) "fix" the problem, run HijackThis and post the
log to http://forums.spywareinfo.com/ or
http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30.
Please do not post it here.
--
HTH - Please Reply to This Thread

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spyware.mspx

SF Gordon wrote:
Shoot At the suggestion of someone in this network I fixed my email to
avoid problems.They indicated if I made it fairly obvious people who
wanted to email me could figure it out. In this case excel can be
forgotten/

Tried the new hosts release and got some change but still have the
problem. Now CNN comes fully up on the screen but freezes and is
inoperable. Seattle times still will not complete and come on the
screen

SFG


SF Gordon,
With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the
background"
What "data program"? Does this only occur only when using that
program?

I can access CNN and the Seattle Times site with no problem. (using
my HOSTS file)
http://www.cnn.com/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/home/

Right
I have a pentium 3 -531MHz-256 RAM
without a host everything works fine

With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the
background a attempt to open CNN or Seattle times both will not
come up (they appear to freeze) there are a few others but many
sites will come up.

! got another host file (734KB) installed and EVERYTHING works fine
. With the data program in the background all other sites come up

"SF Gordon" <sfgsr[at]excel.msn.com> wrote in message
It may be important and it may not be but I think I should tell
those that keep the hosts file for MVPS my problem using their
file.What's the best way?? describe it here or send it somewhere
(address unknown). I now have a hosts file several times larger
that does not hinder operating programs in the background.
thanks

 

[SF Gordon]

Had no intention of killing messenger. I was grateful for the diagnosis .
Been bothering me for a while as the whole newsgroup knows. I did get
slightly pissed as to the arrogant reply of "free" and implied bush league
program. He sure in ---- did not do his homework on that. With his attitude
I don't expect to get esignal to fix there end
thanks for your message

http://www.esignal.com/esignal/, right?

IMHO there are a lot of loopholes in
http://www.esignal.com/disclaimer/default.asp, Gordon, but using it is up to
you. (Lord knows MSN and AOL have similar loopholes.) If you feel
comfortable with it, go ahead and use it with Ad Hosts instead of Mike's
file. He's merely informing you that eSignal *does* "track" you (and your
use of the application) via a third-party website listed in his HOSTS file.
"Informed consent" and all that, get it?

Everyone knows SUVs are more rollover-prone than sedans but millions still
buy and drive 'em (even with Firestone tires <eg>).

Guess I'm just trying to say, "Don't kill the messenger," because I feel
kind of responsible for having pointed you to Mike's pages (most of which
you'll admit have been helpful to you).
--
~PA Bear

Thank you for a good diagnosis. Now what to do about it beyond finger
pointing. Let me correct you on one assumption, Esignal is NOT free and
is considered by many as one of the top programs in the business. Hope
you have the right esignal. I believe they would like to know about this.
Is there a way to get them with you or are you out of it now???

sfg

SF Gordon,
It's not a memory issue ... it's eSignal running you thru a "tracker"
that's listed in my HOSTS file that doesn't exist on the other HOSTS
file that you are now using.

If you read the (very scary!) "Privacy Policy" from eSignal you'll see
what I'm saying about the "tracking". That's what happens when you use
"freeware" you give up your privacy in exchange for free stuff, rather
that purchasing.

<quote>
While accessing and operating an eSignal product, the eSignal software
will record general statistical and tracking information
</quote>
And I love this one! ...
<quote>
There are, however, some limited circumstances in which we may need to
disclose personally identifiable information about a user without express
consent
<quote>
http://www.esignal.com/disclaimer/default.asp
____________________________________________________________
Mike Burgess [MVP Windows Shell\User] http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Spyware, Adware, Parasites, Hijackers, Trojans, with a HOSTS
file http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm [updated 06-06-04]
Please post replies to this Newsgroup, email address is invalid
--

Did that and did not have any problems. That made me think of memory
issues. So I got a larger hosts file (Ad Hosts) and using it I have no
problems.

How in ---- does a nonmember post on the sites you recommend for
HiJackthis log???

sfg
Gord, what happens if you're /not/ running eSignal
[http://www.esignal.com/download/default.asp] in the background but
/are/ running Mike's HOSTS file? Might the eSignal freeware be the
problem?

I know you're familiar with the CWShredder-Ad-aware-Spybot routine. If
none of them (updated) "fix" the problem, run HijackThis and post the
log to http://forums.spywareinfo.com/ or
http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30.
Please do not post it here.
--
HTH - Please Reply to This Thread

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spyware.mspx

SF Gordon wrote:
Shoot At the suggestion of someone in this network I fixed my email to
avoid problems.They indicated if I made it fairly obvious people who
wanted to email me could figure it out. In this case excel can be
forgotten/

Tried the new hosts release and got some change but still have the
problem. Now CNN comes fully up on the screen but freezes and is
inoperable. Seattle times still will not complete and come on the
screen

SFG


SF Gordon,
With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the
background"
What "data program"? Does this only occur only when using that
program?

I can access CNN and the Seattle Times site with no problem. (using
my HOSTS file)
http://www.cnn.com/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/home/

Right
I have a pentium 3 -531MHz-256 RAM
without a host everything works fine

With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the
background a attempt to open CNN or Seattle times both will not
come up (they appear to freeze) there are a few others but many
sites will come up.

! got another host file (734KB) installed and EVERYTHING works fine
. With the data program in the background all other sites come up

"SF Gordon" <sfgsr[at]excel.msn.com> wrote in message
It may be important and it may not be but I think I should tell
those that keep the hosts file for MVPS my problem using their
file.What's the best way?? describe it here or send it somewhere
(address unknown). I now have a hosts file several times larger
that does not hinder operating programs in the background.
thanks

 

[SF Gordon]

Right now I have esignals attention BUT
I am having a problem with esignal BECAUSE I can not explain why when I run
there program alone everything works fine. When I don't have esignal up and
run the sites that had problems everything works fine with you hosts file.
It occurs only when using your Hosts file and running esignal in the
background at the same time I bring up certain (not all) web sites.If
esignal was running
me through a "tracker" why doesn't the problem occur just running esignal
with your hosts file??
thank you for any help you may provide
sfg

SF Gordon,
It's not a memory issue ... it's eSignal running you thru a "tracker" that's
listed in my HOSTS file that doesn't exist on the other HOSTS file that you
are now using.

If you read the (very scary!) "Privacy Policy" from eSignal you'll see what
I'm saying about the "tracking". That's what happens when you use "freeware"
you give up your privacy in exchange for free stuff, rather that purchasing.

<quote>
While accessing and operating an eSignal product, the eSignal software will
record general statistical and tracking information
</quote>
And I love this one! ...
<quote>
There are, however, some limited circumstances in which we may need to
disclose personally identifiable information about a user without express
consent
<quote>
http://www.esignal.com/disclaimer/default.asp
____________________________________________________________
Mike Burgess [MVP Windows Shell\User] http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Spyware, Adware, Parasites, Hijackers, Trojans, with a HOSTS file
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm [updated 06-06-04]
Please post replies to this Newsgroup, email address is invalid
--

Did that and did not have any problems. That made me think of memory issues.
So I got a larger hosts file (Ad Hosts) and using it I have no problems.

How in ---- does a nonmember post on the sites you recommend for HiJackthis
log???

sfg

Gord, what happens if you're /not/ running eSignal
[http://www.esignal.com/download/default.asp] in the background but /are/
running Mike's HOSTS file? Might the eSignal freeware be the problem?

I know you're familiar with the CWShredder-Ad-aware-Spybot routine.

If
none

of them (updated) "fix" the problem, run HijackThis and post the log to
http://forums.spywareinfo.com/ or http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30.
Please do not post it here.
--
HTH - Please Reply to This Thread

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spyware.mspx

SF Gordon wrote:
Shoot At the suggestion of someone in this network I fixed my email to
avoid problems.They indicated if I made it fairly obvious people who
wanted to email me could figure it out. In this case excel can be
forgotten/

Tried the new hosts release and got some change but still have the
problem. Now CNN comes fully up on the screen but freezes and is
inoperable. Seattle times still will not complete and come on the screen

SFG


SF Gordon,
With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background"
What "data program"? Does this only occur only when using that program?

I can access CNN and the Seattle Times site with no problem. (using my
HOSTS file)
http://www.cnn.com/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/home/

Right
I have a pentium 3 -531MHz-256 RAM
without a host everything works fine

With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background
a attempt to open CNN or Seattle times both will not come up (they
appear to freeze) there are a few others but many sites will come up.

! got another host file (734KB) installed and EVERYTHING works

fine

.

With the data program in the background all other sites come up

"SF Gordon" <sfgsr[at]excel.msn.com> wrote in message
It may be important and it may not be but I think I should tell those
that keep the hosts file for MVPS my problem using their file.What's
the best way?? describe it here or send it somewhere (address
unknown). I now have a hosts file several times larger that does not
hinder operating programs in the background.
thanks

 

[SF Gordon]

I think I figures it out. Sorry for the message. As you said esignal runs me
through a tracker that effects certain web sites only when using esignal.
Your hosts file works fine in all cases.
Sorry for being so slow
sfg

SF Gordon,
It's not a memory issue ... it's eSignal running you thru a "tracker" that's
listed in my HOSTS file that doesn't exist on the other HOSTS file that you
are now using.

If you read the (very scary!) "Privacy Policy" from eSignal you'll see what
I'm saying about the "tracking". That's what happens when you use "freeware"
you give up your privacy in exchange for free stuff, rather that purchasing.

<quote>
While accessing and operating an eSignal product, the eSignal software will
record general statistical and tracking information
</quote>
And I love this one! ...
<quote>
There are, however, some limited circumstances in which we may need to
disclose personally identifiable information about a user without express
consent
<quote>
http://www.esignal.com/disclaimer/default.asp
____________________________________________________________
Mike Burgess [MVP Windows Shell\User] http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Spyware, Adware, Parasites, Hijackers, Trojans, with a HOSTS file
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm [updated 06-06-04]
Please post replies to this Newsgroup, email address is invalid
--

Did that and did not have any problems. That made me think of memory issues.
So I got a larger hosts file (Ad Hosts) and using it I have no problems.

How in ---- does a nonmember post on the sites you recommend for HiJackthis
log???

sfg

Gord, what happens if you're /not/ running eSignal
[http://www.esignal.com/download/default.asp] in the background but /are/
running Mike's HOSTS file? Might the eSignal freeware be the problem?

I know you're familiar with the CWShredder-Ad-aware-Spybot routine.

If
none

of them (updated) "fix" the problem, run HijackThis and post the log to
http://forums.spywareinfo.com/ or http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30.
Please do not post it here.
--
HTH - Please Reply to This Thread

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spyware.mspx

SF Gordon wrote:
Shoot At the suggestion of someone in this network I fixed my email to
avoid problems.They indicated if I made it fairly obvious people who
wanted to email me could figure it out. In this case excel can be
forgotten/

Tried the new hosts release and got some change but still have the
problem. Now CNN comes fully up on the screen but freezes and is
inoperable. Seattle times still will not complete and come on the screen

SFG


SF Gordon,
With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background"
What "data program"? Does this only occur only when using that program?

I can access CNN and the Seattle Times site with no problem. (using my
HOSTS file)
http://www.cnn.com/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/home/

Right
I have a pentium 3 -531MHz-256 RAM
without a host everything works fine

With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the background
a attempt to open CNN or Seattle times both will not come up (they
appear to freeze) there are a few others but many sites will come up.

! got another host file (734KB) installed and EVERYTHING works

fine

.

With the data program in the background all other sites come up

"SF Gordon" <sfgsr[at]excel.msn.com> wrote in message
It may be important and it may not be but I think I should tell those
that keep the hosts file for MVPS my problem using their file.What's
the best way?? describe it here or send it somewhere (address
unknown). I now have a hosts file several times larger that does not
hinder operating programs in the background.
thanks

 

[PA Bear]

Patient (demonstrating): Doctor, it hurts when I do this!

Doctor: Don't do that.
--
~PA Bear

Right now I have esignals attention BUT
I am having a problem with esignal BECAUSE I can not explain why when I
run there program alone everything works fine. When I don't have esignal
up and run the sites that had problems everything works fine with you
hosts file. It occurs only when using your Hosts file and running
esignal in the background at the same time I bring up certain (not all)
web sites.If esignal was running
me through a "tracker" why doesn't the problem occur just running esignal
with your hosts file??
thank you for any help you may provide
sfg

SF Gordon,
It's not a memory issue ... it's eSignal running you thru a "tracker"
that's listed in my HOSTS file that doesn't exist on the other HOSTS
file that you are now using.

If you read the (very scary!) "Privacy Policy" from eSignal you'll see
what I'm saying about the "tracking". That's what happens when you use
"freeware" you give up your privacy in exchange for free stuff, rather
that purchasing.

<quote>
While accessing and operating an eSignal product, the eSignal software
will record general statistical and tracking information
</quote>
And I love this one! ...
<quote>
There are, however, some limited circumstances in which we may need to
disclose personally identifiable information about a user without express
consent
<quote>
http://www.esignal.com/disclaimer/default.asp
____________________________________________________________
Mike Burgess [MVP Windows Shell\User] http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Spyware, Adware, Parasites, Hijackers, Trojans, with a HOSTS
file http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm [updated 06-06-04]
Please post replies to this Newsgroup, email address is invalid
--

Did that and did not have any problems. That made me think of memory
issues. So I got a larger hosts file (Ad Hosts) and using it I have no
problems.

How in ---- does a nonmember post on the sites you recommend for
HiJackthis log???

sfg
Gord, what happens if you're /not/ running eSignal
[http://www.esignal.com/download/default.asp] in the background but
/are/ running Mike's HOSTS file? Might the eSignal freeware be the
problem?

I know you're familiar with the CWShredder-Ad-aware-Spybot routine. If
none of them (updated) "fix" the problem, run HijackThis and post the
log to http://forums.spywareinfo.com/ or
http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30.
Please do not post it here.
--
HTH - Please Reply to This Thread

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spyware.mspx

SF Gordon wrote:
Shoot At the suggestion of someone in this network I fixed my email to
avoid problems.They indicated if I made it fairly obvious people who
wanted to email me could figure it out. In this case excel can be
forgotten/

Tried the new hosts release and got some change but still have the
problem. Now CNN comes fully up on the screen but freezes and is
inoperable. Seattle times still will not complete and come on the
screen

SFG


SF Gordon,
With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the
background"
What "data program"? Does this only occur only when using that
program?

I can access CNN and the Seattle Times site with no problem. (using
my HOSTS file)
http://www.cnn.com/
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/home/

Right
I have a pentium 3 -531MHz-256 RAM
without a host everything works fine

With the MVP host when I put a real time data program in the
background a attempt to open CNN or Seattle times both will not
come up (they appear to freeze) there are a few others but many
sites will come up.

! got another host file (734KB) installed and EVERYTHING works fine
. With the data program in the background all other sites come up

"SF Gordon" <sfgsr[at]excel.msn.com> wrote in message
It may be important and it may not be but I think I should tell
those that keep the hosts file for MVPS my problem using their
file.What's the best way?? describe it here or send it somewhere
(address unknown). I now have a hosts file several times larger
that does not hinder operating programs in the background.
thanks