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Smith

Leythos said:
Actually, your posted links prove you are WRONG - they prove the MEDIA
is the content on the servers, and those servers are CONNECTED TO THE
INTERNET, they are NOT THE INTERNET.

So, those servers could provide the same MEDIA to a internal network,
not even connected to the Internet, and yet they would still be
serving MEDIA from those servers.

So, again, the Internet is a network that connects devices/nodes, it
is the devices/nodes that provide access to MEDIA, called CONTENT. The
internet itself does not have content, it provides access to content.

Your links prove my statements - try a comprehension class.

Comprehend this moron.

You have nothing. If someone works for the media will you try to say it is
untrue? Get a clue fool. TV is the media, newspapers are media and so on.
The Internet is also media no mater how lame you choose to remain. You sure
are a stupid one.
 
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Leythos

Comprehend this moron.

You have nothing. If someone works for the media will you try to say it is
untrue? Get a clue fool. TV is the media, newspapers are media and so on.
The Internet is also media no mater how lame you choose to remain. You sure
are a stupid one.

My Television (TV) is not media, it is a display device that permits me
to view/hear MEDIA broadcast.

My Internet connection provides access TO MEDIA sitting on SERVERS that
contain the MEDIA.

My internet connection, like my television, contains no media, but it is
a device that permits access to MEDIA.

Do you understand now?
 
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liciney

Smith;1458325 said:
Comprehend this moron.

You have nothing. If someone works for the media will you try to sa
it is
untrue? Get a clue fool. TV is the media, newspapers are media and s
on.
The Internet is also media no mater how lame you choose to remain. Yo
sure
are a stupid one.

Calm down friend..
Don`t so angry..we can clear of thi
 
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JohnO

Leythos said:
My Television (TV) is not media, it is a display device that permits me
to view/hear MEDIA broadcast.

My Internet connection provides access TO MEDIA sitting on SERVERS that
contain the MEDIA.

My internet connection, like my television, contains no media, but it is
a device that permits access to MEDIA.

Do you understand now?

Media from a macro perspective is a big giant thing...print, broadcast,
internet, etc. Generally the non-tech viewpoint. OTOH if you deal with OSI
layers, this giant 'inter-network' is a just pile of cables, routers, and
servers moving data around.

-John
 
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Leythos

johno@!NOOSPAM! said:
Media from a macro perspective is a big giant thing...print, broadcast,
internet, etc. Generally the non-tech viewpoint. OTOH if you deal with OSI
layers, this giant 'inter-network' is a just pile of cables, routers, and
servers moving data around.

If my News Paper is media, and it is, then the Internet is the same as
the news paper delivery person - a path for the media to reach me, but
not the media itself.

Any person that is versed in computers, network, and then programming or
actually creating media knows that the "Internet" is just the
path/connection to the media available on servers/devices.
 
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Smith

Leythos said:
My Television (TV) is not media, it is a display device that permits
me to view/hear MEDIA broadcast.

My Internet connection provides access TO MEDIA sitting on SERVERS
that contain the MEDIA.

My internet connection, like my television, contains no media, but it
is a device that permits access to MEDIA.

Do you understand now?

Go here moron and read a definition of media and post back and ague that
you are still correct. Boy you will always remain to be one stupuid young
fool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_media

Mass media is a term used to denote a section of the media specifically
envisioned and designed to reach a very large audience such as the
population of a nation state. It was coined in the 1920s with the advent of
nationwide radio networks, mass-circulation newspapers and magazines,
although mass media (like books and manuscripts) were present centuries
before the term became common. The term public media has a similar meaning:
it is the sum of the public mass distributors of news and entertainment
across media such as newspapers, television, radio, broadcasting, which may
require union membership in some large markets such as Newspaper Guild,
AFTRA, & text publishers. The concept of mass media is complicated in some
internet media as now individuals have a means of potential exposure on a
scale comparable to what was previously restricted to select group of mass
media producers. These internet media may include:

a.. Television
b.. Personal web pages
c.. Message boards
d.. Podcasts
e.. Blogs
f.. Video hosting services
 
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Leythos

Mass media is a term used to denote a section of the media specifically
envisioned and designed to reach a very large audience such as the
population of a nation state.

There you go, the INTERNET doesn't have any content, it's the servers
that are on the "Internet".

Definition: Internet: a computer network consisting of a worldwide
network of computer networks that use the TCP/IP network protocols to
facilitate data transmission ...

The internet is the transport of MEDIA, but the internet is NOT MEDIA.

Try this - remove all servers from connection to the internet, what
media do you have then?
 
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Smith

Leythos said:
There you go, the INTERNET doesn't have any content, it's the servers
that are on the "Internet".

Definition: Internet: a computer network consisting of a worldwide
network of computer networks that use the TCP/IP network protocols to
facilitate data transmission ...

The internet is the transport of MEDIA, but the internet is NOT MEDIA.

Try this - remove all servers from connection to the internet, what
media do you have then?

You are a total moron. The Internet is media no matter how stupid you
choose to remain. What does this mean?

"These Internet media may include:"

a.. Television
b.. Personal web pages
c.. Message boards
d.. Podcasts
e.. Blogs
f.. Video hosting services

It shows you what a stooge you actually are Moe. If you take away
everything in the list above you will have no Internet.

You must enjoy making an ass out of yourself over and over. Good luck with
that fool.
 
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Leythos

You are a total moron. The Internet is media no matter how stupid you
choose to remain.

Your ignorance is astounding.
What does this mean?

"These Internet media may include:"

a.. Television
b.. Personal web pages
c.. Message boards
d.. Podcasts
e.. Blogs
f.. Video hosting services

And well it may, but it is media hosted on SERVERS, not on the
"Internet". The internet is the method to get to the MEDIA hosted on
Servers.

Without the servers hosting the MEDIA there none of that media would
exist, but the Internet would still be there.

It shows you what a stooge you actually are Moe. If you take away
everything in the list above you will have no Internet.

Wrong, just like in my office or home, the Internet is a network and
will still be a network without MEDIA/Servers/Content. If I have 2000
network ports in my office, and no servers, nothing providing any of the
things you list above, I still have a network, and it's still an
Intranet, just a smaller scale version of the internet.
You must enjoy making an ass out of yourself over and over. Good luck with
that fool.

Try and lean something from people that were around in the early days of
the Internet, those of us that were around before ANY of those things
you listed above were available on it.

There were no blogs, no web sites, not streaming media, no Podcasts, no
video, not even pictures in the early days.

The MEDIA was not confuse with the NETWORK because almost everyone that
used the Internet at the time had some technical background and
understood the difference between a NETWORK and MEDIA, something you
should learn.
 
J

JohnO

You are a total moron. The Internet is media no matter how stupid you
choose to remain. What does this mean?

Almost sounds like you're saying that you read it on the Internet so it must
be true. ;-) IMO it means the person who wrote it feels "the Internet" is a
blob, a cloud, a thing that comes into the house like cable TV. "The
Internet" is what's at the other end of that big phone cable coming out of
the wall.

Kinda true for explanations to non-tech people, but not true at all if you
know what's actually out there.

-John O
 
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Smith

Leythos said:
Your ignorance is astounding.


And well it may, but it is media hosted on SERVERS, not on the
"Internet". The internet is the method to get to the MEDIA hosted on
Servers.

Without the servers hosting the MEDIA there none of that media would
exist, but the Internet would still be there.


Media is a network which includes TV, Newspapers, Personal web pages and so
on. You claimed TV was not media but you are wrong. The Internet is included
in this network. The contents on a server is media along with every part
that supports it. You will never admit you are wrong young man. This is
clear to see by now.
 
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Smith

JohnO said:
Almost sounds like you're saying that you read it on the Internet so
it must be true. ;-) IMO it means the person who wrote it feels "the
Internet" is a blob, a cloud, a thing that comes into the house like
cable TV. "The Internet" is what's at the other end of that big phone
cable coming out of the wall.

Kinda true for explanations to non-tech people, but not true at all
if you know what's actually out there.


I was trying to find something simple to show the simpleton I was responding
to but he is beyond hope. He has been embarrassing himself and by now would
never admit he has been wrong.
 
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Leythos

Media is a network which includes TV, Newspapers, Personal web pages and so
on. You claimed TV was not media but you are wrong. The Internet is included
in this network. The contents on a server is media along with every part
that supports it. You will never admit you are wrong young man. This is
clear to see by now.

No, you're wrong and don't seem to GRASP the SIMPLE.

A TV (the box) is NOT media, neither are the air-waves, nor the
transmitters.

The MEDIA is the information stored on Film/Computer/Disk/Etc that is
sent/provided over the BOX.

The supporting hardware is NOT MEDIA, it's a network.
 
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Leythos

I was trying to find something simple to show the simpleton I was responding
to but he is beyond hope. He has been embarrassing himself and by now would
never admit he has been wrong.

You are the only person being embarrassed, you keep claiming that the
network is MEDIA and can't seem to grasp that the NETWORK is a media
transport layer, it holds NO MEDIA itself. The Servers HOLD THE MEDIA,
but the servers are not actually MEDIA either.
 
S

Smith

Leythos said:
No, you're wrong and don't seem to GRASP the SIMPLE.

A TV (the box) is NOT media, neither are the air-waves, nor the
transmitters.

The MEDIA is the information stored on Film/Computer/Disk/Etc that is
sent/provided over the BOX.

The supporting hardware is NOT MEDIA, it's a network.

Media IS a network. You don't seem to grasp that aspect. Again you fail. I
ask again. What if someone said they "work for the media". What would you
say to them? The media includes many things as simple as a pad of paper and
pencil. A note book and even a broadcast of words by a person is media. A TV
and the Internet are a part of the media therefor ARE media within
themselves. The supporting hardware as you put it are all a part of a
network of media like the person that works for the media.
 
S

Smith

Leythos said:
You are the only person being embarrassed, you keep claiming that the
network is MEDIA and can't seem to grasp that the NETWORK is a media
transport layer, it holds NO MEDIA itself. The Servers HOLD THE MEDIA,
but the servers are not actually MEDIA either.

You are totally wrong as I pointed out in the above post. Media is a medium.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media

Media may refer to:
In communication:

a.. Media (communication), tools used to store and deliver information or
data

As pointed out above media can be a tool used to store and deliver
information. Thus a TV and the Internet are some of those tools.

Now do you get it or will you say that wikipedia is somehow wrong and only
you are right?
 
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Leythos

You are totally wrong as I pointed out in the above post. Media is a medium.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media

Media may refer to:
In communication:

a.. Media (communication), tools used to store and deliver information or
data

As pointed out above media can be a tool used to store and deliver
information. Thus a TV and the Internet are some of those tools.

Now do you get it or will you say that wikipedia is somehow wrong and only
you are right?

The "Internet" does not store or deliver information or data. The
servers that host the content store and deliver it, the internet is a
network.

According to your definition, the HDMI Cable is media, or my Speaker
cables are media, or my USB cable is media, but any person with any
knowledge of anything technical will confirm that the "Internet" is a
network and does not contain media, the servers ATTACHED to the
"Internet" contain and provide the media.

You do know that Wiki is only a base of information that "People" agree
upon, it does not have to be "Right".
 
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Leythos

Media IS a network. You don't seem to grasp that aspect. Again you fail. I
ask again. What if someone said they "work for the media". What would you
say to them?

I would correct them and say, "You work for a media provider, you don't
work for the 'Media'".
The media includes many things as simple as a pad of paper and
pencil. A note book and even a broadcast of words by a person is media. A TV
and the Internet are a part of the media therefor ARE media within
themselves.

Wrong, the TV is not media, it can not contain or host media. Is is a
Window to show MEDIA. The internet is a path to reach media, it is not
media itself.
The supporting hardware as you put it are all a part of a
network of media like the person that works for the media.

The person that works for a media outlet company is not the media, they
are part of the machine that generates media, but they are not media.
The same is true for the "Internet", it is how you reach the media, but
it does not take on any part of the media.

How do you explain Air - the media is broadcast through the air and
shown on your television - does that make Air media while I view
television? Nope.
 
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Smith

Leythos said:
The "Internet" does not store or deliver information or data. The
servers that host the content store and deliver it, the internet is a
network.

According to your definition, the HDMI Cable is media, or my Speaker
cables are media, or my USB cable is media, but any person with any
knowledge of anything technical will confirm that the "Internet" is a
network and does not contain media, the servers ATTACHED to the
"Internet" contain and provide the media.

You do know that Wiki is only a base of information that "People"
agree upon, it does not have to be "Right".

Yes. YOU are the only source that is right. If your "servers" are
considered "media" then you are making the same comparison. They are wires
and assorted hardware within a case. Like I said, you are just one lame fool
that has dug himself into a hole and would never admit to anything no matter
what the source or how it was handed to you. I was right about you from the
beginning. Until you can supply some reference or a cite to what you claim
you will continue to have you head planted firmly up your ass.
 

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