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NoNeedToKnowMyName

The difference between software and hardware is that hardware is the physical piece of equipment sitting on the desk that you can see, feel and touch. Software is the computer program that operates on the hardware. For instance, the monitor is the hardware, but the Internet is the software that you see displayed on the monitor.

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Roger

NoNeedToKnowMyName said:
the Internet is the software that you see displayed on the monitor.

Sorry man, by definition Internet is not a software but a network.
 
M

Malke

NoNeedToKnowMyName said:
The difference between software and hardware is that hardware is the
physical piece of equipment sitting on the desk that you can see, feel and
touch. Software is the computer program that operates on the hardware. For
instance, the monitor is the hardware, but the Internet is the software
that you see displayed on the monitor.

EggHeadCafe - .NET Developer Portal of Choice
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/default.aspx?ref=ng

It is really questionable whether anyone using EggHeadCafe is qualified to
give any information at all about computer-related things, but:

Thanks for the information, but no one knows to whom you are giving this
information since you are not posting on a real forum as you think you are
and you didn't quote any of the thread to which you are replying. You are
using a web interface that leeches Usenet posts and most of the rest of us
are using real newsreaders. We don't see what you do. If you want to
participate in Usenet, the better way is to set up a newsreader. This is
very easy to do and I'll give you information about that below. If you
prefer to use a forum, then here are two excellent ones:

http://forum.aumha.org/index.php
http://http://computerhaven.info/

Since you are using a web interface, you may not realize that this is really
a newsgroup. You will get far more out of this resource if you learn to use
a newsreader. There are many good newsreaders for Windows, but you can use
Outlook Express (XP) or Windows Mail (Vista) since you already have it.
Here are some links to information about newsgroups:

About Usenet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/ - Usenet FAQs from the Internet FAQ Archives
http://www.usenetmonster.com/infocenter/
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet - a brief explanation
of newsgroups

Outlook Express/Windows Mail as Newsreader:
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
http://rickrogers.org/setupoe.htm
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/accessing_newsgrousp_with-windows_mail.htm

How to Post:
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 - How to Ask a Question
http://users.tpg.com.au/bzyhjr/liszt.htm - How Not to Get Technical Help on
Usenet


http://aumha.org/nntp.htm - list of MS newsgroups
microsoft.public.test.here - MS group to test if your newsreader is working
properly
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/munad.htm - how to munge email address
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting - crossposting
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm - multiposting

Other Newsreaders for Windows:
http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php - Forte
http://www.mozilla.org - Thunderbird

Malke
 
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Smith

NoNeedToKnowMyName said:
The difference between software and hardware is that hardware is the
physical piece of equipment sitting on the desk that you can see,
feel and touch. Software is the computer program that operates on the
hardware. For instance, the monitor is the hardware, but the Internet
is the software that you see displayed on the monitor.

EggHeadCafe - .NET Developer Portal of Choice
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/default.aspx?ref=ng

Simple answer is the Internet is the media. The result of the hardware and
software.
 
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Roger

Smith said:
Simple answer is the Internet is the media. The result of the hardware and
software.
You're wrong too.
Media are the storage used to store and deliver information or data.
Singular is medium, as a diskette, CD, DVD, HD and so on.
 
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Smith

Roger said:
You're wrong too.
Media are the storage used to store and deliver information or data.
Singular is medium, as a diskette, CD, DVD, HD and so on.

By definition the Internet "stores" unless you can provide a cite to assert
your interpretation that I am wrong. Something stored on the Internet may
indeed outlast all other methods.
 
J

JS

Not very likely. I can find any number of "Dead"
links. Google the title of the article the dead link points
to and all you get is the dead link.
 
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Leythos

By definition the Internet "stores" unless you can provide a cite to assert
your interpretation that I am wrong. Something stored on the Internet may
indeed outlast all other methods.

You're wrong, the "Internet" as designed, does not store anything. The
internet provides redundant paths between points.

Web Servers, which are not the internet, store items on media. FTP, and
other media servers also STORE, but they are not the internet, they are
devices that exist as end-points on the interNET.

The internet is, in a simplistic description the same as the network in
your home, it offers PATHS between points. Even DNS is not the
"Internet", it's a media that your programs that access the internet
structure use to find points by name instead of their address.

If you wan to look at it like a DVD Movie player - the Internet is the
electronics in the dvd player and video device, the Movie is the media,
the player itself is the web/ftp server, the video device is your
computer.
 
S

Smith

Leythos said:
You're wrong, the "Internet" as designed, does not store anything. The
internet provides redundant paths between points.

By your interpretation memory does not store data because it needs to be
work in conjunction with the rest of the circuit.

You have no argument. Get over it.
 
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Leythos

By your interpretation memory does not store data because it needs to be
work in conjunction with the rest of the circuit.

You have no argument. Get over it.

LOL, you might want to look up what the "Internet" actually is. The
"Internet" was around long before WWW was created and long before MS
even thought about it.

The internet is a Network.

Devices attached to the "Internet" that are not "the network" often
serve as media sources. The "Internet" itself is not a media source.
 
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M.I.5¾

The difference between software and hardware is that hardware is the
physical piece of equipment sitting on the desk that you can see, feel and
touch. Software is the computer program that operates on the hardware. For
instance, the monitor is the hardware, but the Internet is the software
that you see displayed on the monitor.


Thank you for that. What are you responding to?
 
S

Smith

Leythos said:
LOL, you might want to look up what the "Internet" actually is. The
"Internet" was around long before WWW was created and long before MS
even thought about it.

So what Fool. TV has been around for a long time and way before the term
"multi-media" has been used in it's current context. The Internet is media
just as much as TV is. Get a clue.
 
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Leythos

So what Fool. TV has been around for a long time and way before the term
"multi-media" has been used in it's current context. The Internet is media
just as much as TV is. Get a clue.

Which proves my POINT - The physical Television IS NOT MEDIA, the
Programming, from multiple locations is MEDIA.

The Internet is NOT media, it's a path to media, the same as a
Television or broadcast is not MEDIA, the content is MEDIA.

Get a clue yourself.
 
S

Smith

Leythos said:
Which proves my POINT - The physical Television IS NOT MEDIA, the
Programming, from multiple locations is MEDIA.

The Internet is NOT media, it's a path to media, the same as a
Television or broadcast is not MEDIA, the content is MEDIA.

Get a clue yourself.

You continue to be a fool. You insist on proving my point with every post.
Good luck with that.
 
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Leythos

You continue to be a fool. You insist on proving my point with every post.
Good luck with that.

I see, you're one of those types that resorts to personal attacks when
you've lost your position and are not human enough to admit you made a
mistake.

I have "the internet" connected to my home network - but it seems that I
can't store anything on the "Internet", only on media servers connected
to the Internet - maybe you'll understand now.
 
S

Smith

Leythos said:
I see, you're one of those types that resorts to personal attacks when
you've lost your position and are not human enough to admit you made a
mistake.

I have "the internet" connected to my home network - but it seems
that I can't store anything on the "Internet", only on media servers
connected to the Internet - maybe you'll understand now.

"The Internet IS multimedia"

http://insidedigitalmedia.com/internet-eclipses-the-printing-press/

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/08/extra-the-newspaper-industry-saved-not-so-much/


http://query.nytimes.com/search/tec...he+internet+is+multimedia"&type=nyt&x=12&y=14

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q="the+internet+is+multimedia"&btnG=Search


If this does nothing to give a troll like you an education then you are
simply just to ignorant and will remain so.

Deal with it.
 
L

Leythos


You seem to be mistaking what you've read for "Internet" and not seeing
that the "Media" is the servers that contain the "Media".

The "Internet" is not the media, it's the connective parts that allow
you to reach the "Media".

Your own links prove the point - take away the "Servers" that contain
the media and you have nothing to view/read, but the "Internet" would
still exist as it has for decades.

People like you make the same mistake of thinking a TV "IS MULTIMEDIA",
but it's not, it's capable of showing multiple types of media, just like
the internet.

Grasp this one son, if you turned off all the servers that host media,
the "Internet" would still exist, still route traffic, still be
redundant, but you would not have any media to view.
 
S

Smith

Leythos said:
You seem to be mistaking what you've read for "Internet" and not
seeing that the "Media" is the servers that contain the "Media".

The "Internet" is not the media, it's the connective parts that allow
you to reach the "Media".

Your own links prove the point - take away the "Servers" that contain
the media and you have nothing to view/read, but the "Internet" would
still exist as it has for decades.

People like you make the same mistake of thinking a TV "IS
MULTIMEDIA", but it's not, it's capable of showing multiple types of
media, just like the internet.

Grasp this one son, if you turned off all the servers that host media,
the "Internet" would still exist, still route traffic, still be
redundant, but you would not have any media to view.

I don't know who you think you really are with your lame comment using the
term "son" but you are totally clueless even while being proven totally
wrong. If somehow you think you might be some older and more informed
individual you are continuing to show how lame and foolish you can be and
perfectly willing to make an ass out of yourself. I have posted several
cites of many more that prove my claim while all you do is bury your head
further up your ass. Your "opinion" means nothing to anyone. Now if you care
to Google and show where you might even have something I will be waiting.
Otherwise you will remain an ignorant buffoon.
 
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Leythos

I have posted several
cites of many more that prove my claim

Actually, your posted links prove you are WRONG - they prove the MEDIA
is the content on the servers, and those servers are CONNECTED TO THE
INTERNET, they are NOT THE INTERNET.

So, those servers could provide the same MEDIA to a internal network,
not even connected to the Internet, and yet they would still be serving
MEDIA from those servers.

So, again, the Internet is a network that connects devices/nodes, it is
the devices/nodes that provide access to MEDIA, called CONTENT. The
internet itself does not have content, it provides access to content.

Your links prove my statements - try a comprehension class.
 

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