Home network...

[RJK]

Can anyone point me to a step by step primer for connecting two home Pc's.
I've never had anything to do with networking, therefore I don't know
anything about it. I've been having a dig around and a good read, and while
the stuff I've read is very interesting, I can see that it's going to be
hard to apply a few bits from a huge amount of theory without a more "step
by step" approcah type / procedure.

http://www.primerpc.com/networking/settingupnet.htm
http://www.pcguidebook.com/homenetwork.asp
http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/library/network.htm

A friend has just bought a new XP based home PC, and the shop sold her a
cross-over ethernet lead and a pci networking card so that she can "network"
to her older PC which has Windows 98 in it. She has a Speedtouch 330 USB
ADSL modem plugged into her new XP PC and uses BT broadband.
I think she wants her husband to be able to use the internet on her older
"networked" PC but, she doesn't want him actually using her new XP PC !

It sounds like a nightmare to me, and without knowing anything about it, I
told her that it sounds to me like she'll have to have both PC's switched on
anyway, to be able to use the internet on the LAN connected W98 PC.
I had a "read" the other day, and I sort of got the impression, or
'suspicion' if you prefer, that it would have been better if she'd bought a
combined "router-modem," unless I got the wrong end of the stick somewhere.

Anyway, can anyone see problems with "ethernetting" a XP and W98 PC
together, and can anyone point me to a step by step procedure for setting up
IP and subnet addresses ...something that will tell me exactly what numbers
to type in ? ...and ony other pitfalls ?

Huge TIA

regards, Richard

 

[Jim Macklin]

Using a router makes it much easier to connect two or more
computers to the Internet. A router will be connected to
the cable/DSL modem and each computer will connect to the
router.
Windows XP has an excellent guide built-in to the software,
see control panel/network setup wizard, it will walk you
through the setup and has diagrams.

See network setup FAQs on the router manufacturers'
websites. For example
http://www.d-link.com/consumer/
http://support.dlink.com/ has setup guides
Other manufacturers include Linksys, here is a list from
www.dealtime.com
2wire (1) 3Com (169) Actiontec (11) ADC Kentrox (6)
Adtran (51) Allied Telesyn (13) Anchor (1) APC (1) Archtek
America (1) Artronix Technology (1) Asante (12) Asound (1)
ASUS (4) Avaya (5) Axsion (5) Belkin (9) Best Data Products
(1) Black Box (2) Blitzz Technology (3) Buffalo Technology
(8) Cisco (220) Cnet (5) Compaq (14) Compex (7) Comtrend
(2) ConnectGear (4) D-Link (40) Dell (3) Dynex (1) Edimax
(3) Efficient Networks (24) Eicon (1) Encore (1) EnGenius
(1) Enlight (1) Enterasys (14) Equinox (1) Foundry Networks
(1) Gateway (5) GigaFast Ethernet (4) Global Marketing
Partners (3) Global Star Software (1) Hawking (23) Hewlett
Packard (4) Honeywell (1) HotBrick (1) IBM (3) IMC Networks
(2) Innocom Technology (1) Intel (4) IOGear (2) Larscom (1)
Linkskey (1) Linksys (40) Lucent (28) Macsense (1) Microsoft
(3) Milan Technologies (2) Mitel (1) Motorola (6) MSI (1)
Multitech Systems (9) NetGear (61) Netopia (50) Nexland (1)
Nortel (41) Nx Networks (1) Osicom (5) Panasonic (1)
Paradyne (14) Patton Electric (8) Perle Systems (26) Port
Incorporated (2) Proxim (1) Quantum (3) Quatech (1) Ramp
Networks (2) Siemens (2) SMC (13) SnapGear (3) Sony (3) Soyo
(1) StarTech.com (1) Telenetics (1) Trendware (15) Uniden
(2) Vtech (1) Xterasys (4) Zonet (6) Zoom (3) Zyxel (29)


Networking for Dummies can be bought at many stores or
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764504983?v=glance



--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


| Can anyone point me to a step by step primer for
connecting two home Pc's.
| I've never had anything to do with networking, therefore I
don't know
| anything about it. I've been having a dig around and a
good read, and while
| the stuff I've read is very interesting, I can see that
it's going to be
| hard to apply a few bits from a huge amount of theory
without a more "step
| by step" approcah type / procedure.
|
| http://www.primerpc.com/networking/settingupnet.htm
| http://www.pcguidebook.com/homenetwork.asp
| http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/library/network.htm
|
| A friend has just bought a new XP based home PC, and the
shop sold her a
| cross-over ethernet lead and a pci networking card so that
she can "network"
| to her older PC which has Windows 98 in it. She has a
Speedtouch 330 USB
| ADSL modem plugged into her new XP PC and uses BT
broadband.
| I think she wants her husband to be able to use the
internet on her older
| "networked" PC but, she doesn't want him actually using
her new XP PC !
|
| It sounds like a nightmare to me, and without knowing
anything about it, I
| told her that it sounds to me like she'll have to have
both PC's switched on
| anyway, to be able to use the internet on the LAN
connected W98 PC.
| I had a "read" the other day, and I sort of got the
impression, or
| 'suspicion' if you prefer, that it would have been better
if she'd bought a
| combined "router-modem," unless I got the wrong end of
the stick somewhere.
|
| Anyway, can anyone see problems with "ethernetting" a XP
and W98 PC
| together, and can anyone point me to a step by step
procedure for setting up
| IP and subnet addresses ...something that will tell me
exactly what numbers
| to type in ? ...and ony other pitfalls ?
|
| Huge TIA
|
| regards, Richard
|
|

 

[Courtney]

Can anyone point me to a step by step primer for connecting two home Pc's.
I've never had anything to do with networking, therefore I don't know
anything about it. I've been having a dig around and a good read, and while
the stuff I've read is very interesting, I can see that it's going to be
hard to apply a few bits from a huge amount of theory without a more "step
by step" approcah type / procedure.

http://www.primerpc.com/networking/settingupnet.htm
http://www.pcguidebook.com/homenetwork.asp
http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/library/network.htm

A friend has just bought a new XP based home PC, and the shop sold her a
cross-over ethernet lead and a pci networking card so that she can "network"
to her older PC which has Windows 98 in it. She has a Speedtouch 330 USB
ADSL modem plugged into her new XP PC and uses BT broadband.
I think she wants her husband to be able to use the internet on her older
"networked" PC but, she doesn't want him actually using her new XP PC !

It sounds like a nightmare to me, and without knowing anything about it, I
told her that it sounds to me like she'll have to have both PC's switched on
anyway, to be able to use the internet on the LAN connected W98 PC.
I had a "read" the other day, and I sort of got the impression, or
'suspicion' if you prefer, that it would have been better if she'd bought a
combined "router-modem," unless I got the wrong end of the stick somewhere.

Anyway, can anyone see problems with "ethernetting" a XP and W98 PC
together, and can anyone point me to a step by step procedure for setting up
IP and subnet addresses ...something that will tell me exactly what numbers
to type in ? ...and ony other pitfalls ?

Huge TIA

regards, Richard

Have her go to Best Buy, CompUSA, Circuit City, or similar store, and
purchase a Cable/DSL router.

She will follow the step-by-step instructions for the router to set it
up for DSL (by default, it will be set up for cable). She will be
putting her account info in the router (the same stuff that went into
her computer).

From then on, computers will be plugged into the router (using a
standard network cable, not a crossover), and the router will be plugged
into the modem (also a standard cable). She can then plug the 98 machine
into the same router, and it will have Internet access *and* be able to
connect to the XP machine.

courtney sends....

 

[Brian A.]

Using a router is the best way and does not require each machine to be turned on to access the net (WAN). You can get a 4 port router for approx as low as $60 US. Most routers nowadays have an internal hardware firewall built-in, DHCP and NAT ( Network address translation ).

As long as you do not configure file/print sharing for the LAN, each machine will only have access to the net. If file/print sharing was to be allowed and each machine has it's own software firewall installed, then the IP of the machine to be allowed access to the other would have to be entered in the trusted zone of the machine that has file/print sharing configured.

You already have a link to one of the below.
www.wown.com
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/
http://www.homepcnetwork.com/

--

Brian A.

Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Can anyone point me to a step by step primer for connecting two home
Pc's. I've never had anything to do with networking, therefore I
don't know anything about it.

Usually, WinXP's Networking Wizard makes it simple and painless --
almost entirely automatic, in fact. There's a lot of useful,
easy-to-follow information in WinXP's Help & Support files, and here:

Home Networking
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/using/howto/homenet/default.asp

Networking Information
http://www.onecomputerguy.com/networking.htm

PracticallyNetworked Home
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/index.htm

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



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having
both at once. - RAH

 

[RJK]

HUGE thanks to Jim Macklin, Courtney, Brian A. ,and Jim Macklin.

regards, Richard

 

[Jim Macklin]

You're welcome


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


| HUGE thanks to Jim Macklin, Courtney, Brian A. ,and Jim
Macklin.
|
| regards, Richard
|
|
| | > Can anyone point me to a step by step primer for
connecting two home Pc's.
| > I've never had anything to do with networking, therefore
I don't know
| > anything about it. I've been having a dig around and a
good read, and
| > while the stuff I've read is very interesting, I can see
that it's going
| > to be hard to apply a few bits from a huge amount of
theory without a
| > more "step by step" approcah type / procedure.
| >
| > http://www.primerpc.com/networking/settingupnet.htm
| > http://www.pcguidebook.com/homenetwork.asp
| > http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/library/network.htm
| >
| > A friend has just bought a new XP based home PC, and the
shop sold her a
| > cross-over ethernet lead and a pci networking card so
that she can
| > "network" to her older PC which has Windows 98 in it.
She has a
| > Speedtouch 330 USB ADSL modem plugged into her new XP PC
and uses BT
| > broadband.
| > I think she wants her husband to be able to use the
internet on her older
| > "networked" PC but, she doesn't want him actually using
her new XP PC !
| >
| > It sounds like a nightmare to me, and without knowing
anything about it, I
| > told her that it sounds to me like she'll have to have
both PC's switched
| > on anyway, to be able to use the internet on the LAN
connected W98 PC.
| > I had a "read" the other day, and I sort of got the
impression, or
| > 'suspicion' if you prefer, that it would have been
better if she'd bought
| > a combined "router-modem," unless I got the wrong end
of the stick
| > somewhere.
| >
| > Anyway, can anyone see problems with "ethernetting" a XP
and W98 PC
| > together, and can anyone point me to a step by step
procedure for setting
| > up IP and subnet addresses ...something that will tell
me exactly what
| > numbers to type in ? ...and ony other pitfalls ?
| >
| > Huge TIA
| >
| > regards, Richard
| >
|
|

 

[RJK]

....ooops! ..and of course Huge thanks also to Bruce Chambers.

regards, Richard

 

[Lil' Dave]

What you're describing is a combination router and hub, not just a router.

 

[Jim Macklin]

As far as I know, all the consumer routers combine the hub
function.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


| What you're describing is a combination router and hub,
not just a router.
in message
| | > Using a router makes it much easier to connect two or
more
| > computers to the Internet. A router will be connected
to
| > the cable/DSL modem and each computer will connect to
the
| > router.
| > Windows XP has an excellent guide built-in to the
software,
| > see control panel/network setup wizard, it will walk you
| > through the setup and has diagrams.
| >
| > See network setup FAQs on the router manufacturers'
| > websites. For example
| > http://www.d-link.com/consumer/
| > http://support.dlink.com/ has setup guides
| > Other manufacturers include Linksys, here is a list from
| > www.dealtime.com
| > 2wire (1) 3Com (169) Actiontec (11) ADC Kentrox
(6)
| > Adtran (51) Allied Telesyn (13) Anchor (1) APC (1)
Archtek
| > America (1) Artronix Technology (1) Asante (12) Asound
(1)
| > ASUS (4) Avaya (5) Axsion (5) Belkin (9) Best Data
Products
| > (1) Black Box (2) Blitzz Technology (3) Buffalo
Technology
| > (8) Cisco (220) Cnet (5) Compaq (14) Compex (7)
Comtrend
| > (2) ConnectGear (4) D-Link (40) Dell (3) Dynex (1)
Edimax
| > (3) Efficient Networks (24) Eicon (1) Encore (1)
EnGenius
| > (1) Enlight (1) Enterasys (14) Equinox (1) Foundry
Networks
| > (1) Gateway (5) GigaFast Ethernet (4) Global Marketing
| > Partners (3) Global Star Software (1) Hawking (23)
Hewlett
| > Packard (4) Honeywell (1) HotBrick (1) IBM (3) IMC
Networks
| > (2) Innocom Technology (1) Intel (4) IOGear (2) Larscom
(1)
| > Linkskey (1) Linksys (40) Lucent (28) Macsense (1)
Microsoft
| > (3) Milan Technologies (2) Mitel (1) Motorola (6) MSI
(1)
| > Multitech Systems (9) NetGear (61) Netopia (50) Nexland
(1)
| > Nortel (41) Nx Networks (1) Osicom (5) Panasonic (1)
| > Paradyne (14) Patton Electric (8) Perle Systems (26)
Port
| > Incorporated (2) Proxim (1) Quantum (3) Quatech (1) Ramp
| > Networks (2) Siemens (2) SMC (13) SnapGear (3) Sony (3)
Soyo
| > (1) StarTech.com (1) Telenetics (1) Trendware (15)
Uniden
| > (2) Vtech (1) Xterasys (4) Zonet (6) Zoom (3) Zyxel (29)
| >
| >
| > Networking for Dummies can be bought at many stores or
| >
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764504983?v=glance
| >
| >
| >
| > --
| > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| >
| >
| > | > | Can anyone point me to a step by step primer for
| > connecting two home Pc's.
| > | I've never had anything to do with networking,
therefore I
| > don't know
| > | anything about it. I've been having a dig around and
a
| > good read, and while
| > | the stuff I've read is very interesting, I can see
that
| > it's going to be
| > | hard to apply a few bits from a huge amount of theory
| > without a more "step
| > | by step" approcah type / procedure.
| > |
| > | http://www.primerpc.com/networking/settingupnet.htm
| > | http://www.pcguidebook.com/homenetwork.asp
| > | http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/library/network.htm
| > |
| > | A friend has just bought a new XP based home PC, and
the
| > shop sold her a
| > | cross-over ethernet lead and a pci networking card so
that
| > she can "network"
| > | to her older PC which has Windows 98 in it. She has a
| > Speedtouch 330 USB
| > | ADSL modem plugged into her new XP PC and uses BT
| > broadband.
| > | I think she wants her husband to be able to use the
| > internet on her older
| > | "networked" PC but, she doesn't want him actually
using
| > her new XP PC !
| > |
| > | It sounds like a nightmare to me, and without knowing
| > anything about it, I
| > | told her that it sounds to me like she'll have to have
| > both PC's switched on
| > | anyway, to be able to use the internet on the LAN
| > connected W98 PC.
| > | I had a "read" the other day, and I sort of got the
| > impression, or
| > | 'suspicion' if you prefer, that it would have been
better
| > if she'd bought a
| > | combined "router-modem," unless I got the wrong end
of
| > the stick somewhere.
| > |
| > | Anyway, can anyone see problems with "ethernetting" a
XP
| > and W98 PC
| > | together, and can anyone point me to a step by step
| > procedure for setting up
| > | IP and subnet addresses ...something that will tell me
| > exactly what numbers
| > | to type in ? ...and ony other pitfalls ?
| > |
| > | Huge TIA
| > |
| > | regards, Richard
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|