Home Network - problem adding PC to Workgroup

C

Carylesc

I've have a DSL combo wireless/wired network with XP pcs on a shared
workgroup that has been up and working fine for some time. I'm trying to add
my new pc - an XP media center desktop- via the wireless connection. The pc
is configured to work with the DSL router, and accesses the internet just
fine. But I CAN't seem to get it recognized by or get it to recognize the
other pcs in the workgroup.

One of the other pcs "sees" the name of the new XPmedia center pc, but can't
access any shared drives or resources. The XPmedia center pc doesn't see
anything in the workgroup at all.

Where do I start? Thanks all!
 
M

Malke

Carylesc said:
I've have a DSL combo wireless/wired network with XP pcs on a shared
workgroup that has been up and working fine for some time. I'm trying to add
my new pc - an XP media center desktop- via the wireless connection. The pc
is configured to work with the DSL router, and accesses the internet just
fine. But I CAN't seem to get it recognized by or get it to recognize the
other pcs in the workgroup.

One of the other pcs "sees" the name of the new XPmedia center pc, but can't
access any shared drives or resources. The XPmedia center pc doesn't see
anything in the workgroup at all.

Where do I start? Thanks all!

Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be
applicable to your situation, so just take the bits that are. It may
look daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links and suggestions
below systematically and calmly, you will have no difficulty in setting
up your sharing.

For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
caveat in Item A below).

Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally
caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two
firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party
firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on
all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating
system does not permit it. Read through the general networking tips
below and if you still are having difficulties, MVP Hans-Georg Michna
has an excellent small network troubleshooter here:

http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm

Taking the time to go through his troubleshooter will usually pinpoint
the source of the problem(s).

Here are some general networking tips for home/small networks:

A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network
(LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing
File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network
Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only
"gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you
aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with
"Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a
firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually
configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be
192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
subnet. Do not run more than one firewall.

B. For ease or organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup.
This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.

C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines.You do
not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the
passwords can be different for each user account; they just need to
exist on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the
Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do
this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:

Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center:

1. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off
Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user
accounts/passwords on all computers.

2. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the
Simple File Sharing enabled. Simple File Sharing means that Guest
(network) is enabled. This means that anyone without a user account on
the target system can use its resources. This is a security hole but
only you can decide if it matters in your situation.

E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'
home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share
folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the
Shared Documents folder.

F. After you have file sharing working (and have tested this by
exchanging a file between all machines), if you want to share a printer
connected locally to one of your computers, share it out from that
machine. Then go to the printer mftr.'s website and download the latest
drivers for the correct operating system(s). Install them on the target
machine(s). The printer should be seen during the installation routine.
If it is not, install the drivers and then use the Add Printer Wizard.


Malke
 
C

Carylesc

Don't laugh - the pc came with the default Norton Security. All I had to do
was tweak the blankety-blank default firewall settings and all the other
nodes magically appeared!
Thanks! I really appreciate the response and the resource of this group.

Now, if only I can find all the disks to reinstall all the software on this
new pc!!
 
M

Malke

Carylesc said:
Don't laugh - the pc came with the default Norton Security. All I had to do
was tweak the blankety-blank default firewall settings and all the other
nodes magically appeared!
Thanks! I really appreciate the response and the resource of this group.

Now, if only I can find all the disks to reinstall all the software on this
new pc!!

I'm not laughing - this is one of the most common reasons for problems
with Workgroup networking. I'm glad you got it sorted and thank you for
taking the time to post back.


Malke
 

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