Hibernate not working

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Roy

InRoy typed on Thu, 12 May 2011 00:39:58 -0700 (PDT):











Who is really living in a cocoon Roy? This computer right here has only
100MB free on the 4GB SSD soldered on the motherboard. Thus I can't use
updates on it at all. If I try, all of the free space will be gone and
the computer crashes. Asus sold them that way and Microsoft allowed them
to sell XP OEM licenses.

So you would think this computer is at greater risk of getting viruses.
But guess what Roy? It has never had a single virus yet. Nor have I ever
had a Windows virus since I started running Windows back in '93. And I
can tell you that security updates is the weakest of all security
measures. There are far better ways to protect yourself. And if you do
it right, security updates are meaningless.

And your belief that EWF actually cripples your computer, how so? As you
can toggle it on or off. When off, it isn't there and XP operates
normally. When on, it is like running your whole system in a sandbox.
And this is *far* more effective against viruses than trusting in
security updates. But clueless people like you just wouldn't know any
better. Isn't that so Roy?

==
Thanks for cluing me in...I really appreciate that. I am always
willing to learn as to how things work. Like I said, you know your
system...run it as you wish.

Have a nice day, over and out.
==
 
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Paul

Industrial said:
My dumppo log: http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/470/dumppolog.png

Everything looks fine to me, why?

I can't download that hotfix because it asks me to validate my Windows
key, which belongs to a friend. Same reason why I don't have SP3.

Can anyone re-link that hotfix or would it still ask me for a
validation upon install?

What about the network install version of SP3 ? I don't see a validation
check for that one. (Since my WinXP install is from an SP3 disc, I've never
needed this.)

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...A8-5E76-401F-BE08-1E1555D4F3D4&displaylang=en

*******

With regard to getting just the hot fix,

a "WindowsXP-KB909095-x86-ENU.exe" download link is at the bottom of this page.
Scroll to the bottom of this thread, and use the link there.

http://forums.techarena.in/operating-systems/1058642.htm

I downloaded the file (using validation) from Microsoft, and compared
to the link at the bottom of that thread. The files have the same
hash. I used FCIV to check.

//
// File Checksum Integrity Verifier version 2.05.
//
MD5 SHA-1
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
b2765ad1bf46975a749e0aaf23362cec 833c3b6a05d8f5837c56e41df8ff74c408b1ffb0

windowsxp-kb909095-x86-enu__real_mccoy.exe <--- from Microsoft

//
// File Checksum Integrity Verifier version 2.05.
//
MD5 SHA-1
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
b2765ad1bf46975a749e0aaf23362cec 833c3b6a05d8f5837c56e41df8ff74c408b1ffb0

windowsxp-kb909095-x86-enu.exe <--- from the private download link...

Caveat emptor etc,

Paul
 
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BillW50

In
Bill said:
Oh no! Say it isn't so, Bill! What blasphemy! :)
No problems over here either.

Yeah I know. And I think people who gets viruses should rethink their
security plan. As it doesn't seem to be working too well.
The one minor regret I may have, though, about going to SP3, is that
I can't readily roll back to a factory install condition, since the
Dell CD is the SP2 version, but I do have image backups of my system,
and should be covered. As mertioned, I went to SP3 to clean up an
annoying svchost bug that I wasn't able to otherwise. I didn't go for
the reason of "security updates".

Yeah I am not too pleased with SP3 either. And Microsoft not willing to
fix SP3 bugs doesn't make me any happier in any case.
 
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Industrial One

What about the network install version of SP3 ? I don't see a validation
check for that one. (Since my WinXP install is from an SP3 disc, I've never
needed this.)

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=5B33B5A8-....

*******

With regard to getting just the hot fix,

a "WindowsXP-KB909095-x86-ENU.exe" download link is at the bottom of thispage.
Scroll to the bottom of this thread, and use the link there.

http://forums.techarena.in/operating-systems/1058642.htm

I downloaded the file (using validation) from Microsoft, and compared
to the link at the bottom of that thread. The files have the same
hash. I used FCIV to check.

//
// File Checksum Integrity Verifier version 2.05.
//
                MD5                             SHA-1
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
b2765ad1bf46975a749e0aaf23362cec 833c3b6a05d8f5837c56e41df8ff74c408b1ffb0

      windowsxp-kb909095-x86-enu__real_mccoy.exe  <--- from Microsoft

//
// File Checksum Integrity Verifier version 2.05.
//
                MD5                             SHA-1
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
b2765ad1bf46975a749e0aaf23362cec 833c3b6a05d8f5837c56e41df8ff74c408b1ffb0

      windowsxp-kb909095-x86-enu.exe   <--- from the private download link...

Caveat emptor etc,

    Paul

Cool, the hotfix solved the problem, but now I'm back to the super-
long startup days, and my desktop froze just 10 minutes after the last
reboot while I was watching some moronic YouTube video that the forces
from above probably didn't want me to watch. :D

I think I'm just gonna upgrade to SP3, but one question: I'm on
TrueCrypt, will I have to decrypt my volume first?
 
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Zaphod Beeblebrox

BillW50 said:
In

EWF only comes with embedded and that should be a given.

Right, so that's why you were referring to EWF on a system running XP
and SP3 in a non-embedded newsgroup, where 99%+ of the people posting
haven't a clue about EWF, made it sound like it was an add-on for XP,
and didn't even use the word embedded until after I did. If you were
legitimately interested in solving the problem instead of just being
able to complain about somthing (likely in the hope that nobody could
dispute your assertion, as well as in an attempt to sound more tech
savvy), you would be posting somewhere that the topic would be more
likely to be understood - you know, like
microsoft.public.windowsxp.embedded...
Yes it did, but I needed my applications and data too. And if you
want me to give them up for updates, well that would be crazy. Why
would I want just Windows and I can't have anything else?

Please. Your initial complaint was that with XP SP2 on the system you
didn't have enough room to update it to SP3. Now, your complaint is
that with XP Embedded you don't have enough room after installing your
applications and data, even though XP Embedded would leave you with
much more free space than standard XP. And of course, installing and
using those applications put you in violation of the licensing
agreement, see below.
The trial doesn't have anything to update.

Sure it does. If you actually had a clue, it would be obvious to
everyone by now. There are many updates available to the trial
version of XP Embedded. You just don't know how to acquire and apply
them, because you don't actually know what you are talking about.

Oh - just curious: What method did you use to install XP Embedded on
the Asus EeePC 701? Take the download from MS, burn a CD from it and
run the installer from the CD using an external / USB CD-ROM, or did
you use another method?
Because I have seen it before.

Right. Pull the other one. So you are either lying about just
installing it yesterday, or you were lying about SP3 causing you
problems with EWF - which is it? Both?
Really? News to me.

Then you haven't actually read the licensing agreement, or any of
Microsoft's web pages dealing with XP Embedded. From the licensing
agreement:

"Licensee may not use or include Windows XP Embedded, the Windows XP
Embedded run-time images, or any components thereof, in (i) the
development of a general purpose computing device..."

"A "general purpose device" is any computer device or system whose
functionality allows unrestricted use of, or access to, "Office
Automation and Personal Computing Functions." Office Automation and
Personal Computing Functions refer to consumer or business tasks or
processes, including (but not limited to): e-mail, word processing,
spreadsheets, database, network/Internet browsing, scheduling, and
personal finance. Office Automation and Personal Computing Functions
include features and functions derived from Windows XP Embedded, as
well as features and functions derived from other software used on the
device."

To shorten it for the clueless / reading impaired:

"Licensee may not use or include Windows XP Embedded, the Windows XP
Embedded run-time images, or any components thereof, in ... any
computer device or system whose functionality allows unrestricted use
of, or access to ... e-mail, word processing, spreadsheets, database,
network/Internet browsing, scheduling, and personal finance ..."

What were those applications and data you installed on your XP
Embedded system that left you with only 100MB free space? Surely not
any of those listed above?

So, no matter how you try to twist it, you *are* in violation of the
licensing agreement by your own words - either you were running a
component (EWF) in a non-Embedded version of Windows, or you were
using an Embedded version of Windows to surf the web, post to
newsgroups, and installed applications and data that by their nature
put you in violation of the license.

--
Zaphod

Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster: A cocktail based on Janx Spirit.
The effect of one is like having your brain smashed out
by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick.
 
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Paul

Industrial said:
Cool, the hotfix solved the problem, but now I'm back to the super-
long startup days, and my desktop froze just 10 minutes after the last
reboot while I was watching some moronic YouTube video that the forces
from above probably didn't want me to watch. :D

I think I'm just gonna upgrade to SP3, but one question: I'm on
TrueCrypt, will I have to decrypt my volume first?

I know zero about TrueCrypt. I don't even know which group is
the best place to ask...

If there is a backup strategy for TrueCrypt, then perhaps
you can just try it and see. I do a lot of my PC experiments
that way, with a backup as a crutch.

I did Win7 SP1 update yesterday, and did a full backup of C:
before I started, and was glad I did. I ended up doing a
restore, but only because I was making notes along the
way, and screwed part of the process up. So being able
to reload a 40GB sector by sector image, I could start
all over again.

Paul
 
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Industrial One

I know zero about TrueCrypt. I don't even know which group is
the best place to ask...

If there is a backup strategy for TrueCrypt, then perhaps
you can just try it and see. I do a lot of my PC experiments
that way, with a backup as a crutch.

I did Win7 SP1 update yesterday, and did a full backup of C:
before I started, and was glad I did. I ended up doing a
restore, but only because I was making notes along the
way, and screwed part of the process up. So being able
to reload a 40GB sector by sector image, I could start
all over again.

    Paul

Well, will it involve having to do anything on pre-boot screen? or is
it essentially just installing the huge 360 meg pack and restarting?
 
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Paul

Industrial said:
Well, will it involve having to do anything on pre-boot screen? or is
it essentially just installing the huge 360 meg pack and restarting?

AFAIK, that's about it. Install while in Windows.

To do WinXP SP3, I think one recommendation, is to uninstall
any advanced versions of Internet Explorer. It's possible
WinXP came with IE6, and you might want to look in add/remove
and take it back to that point. Otherwise, there might be
issued with say, the IE6 components in SP3, and whatever later
version of Internet Explorer you may have installed.

You can find a posting from PA Bear, with a few tips on
installing.

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/a066ae41add7dd2b

And this link in the post, might contain enough reading
material to get you started.

http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx

Personally, for me, the single ingredient to success is my backup.
If I run into trouble, I can always back out that way. And everything
else, just takes time, one way or another.

One other thing you might want to consider building for yourself,
is a "slipstreamed repair disc". You can take that 300MB download,
your WinXP SP2 disc, and use NLite to make a WinXP SP3 disc from
it. If doing a repair install, it's nice to have a disc that
matches your current OS level.

http://www.nliteos.com/guide/part1.html

"Integrate a service pack"

There will always be issues with Internet Explorer - even during
repair install (which is intended to reinstall windows without
disturbing programs and data), they have the ridiculous requirement
to remove advanced versions of IE first. If your OS is "broken",
that's hardly a convenient time to be uninstalling IE8. There was
a time, when IE installations were a bit more friendly, than the
ones they have now.

HTH,
Paul
 
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Industrial One

AFAIK, that's about it. Install while in Windows.

To do WinXP SP3, I think one recommendation, is to uninstall
any advanced versions of Internet Explorer. It's possible
WinXP came with IE6, and you might want to look in add/remove
and take it back to that point. Otherwise, there might be
issued with say, the IE6 components in SP3, and whatever later
version of Internet Explorer you may have installed.

You can find a posting from PA Bear, with a few tips on
installing.

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg...

And this link in the post, might contain enough reading
material to get you started.

http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2008/05/08/windows-xp-sp...

Personally, for me, the single ingredient to success is my backup.
If I run into trouble, I can always back out that way. And everything
else, just takes time, one way or another.

One other thing you might want to consider building for yourself,
is a "slipstreamed repair disc". You can take that 300MB download,
your WinXP SP2 disc, and use NLite to make a WinXP SP3 disc from
it. If doing a repair install, it's nice to have a disc that
matches your current OS level.

http://www.nliteos.com/guide/part1.html

    "Integrate a service pack"

There will always be issues with Internet Explorer - even during
repair install (which is intended to reinstall windows without
disturbing programs and data), they have the ridiculous requirement
to remove advanced versions of IE first. If your OS is "broken",
that's hardly a convenient time to be uninstalling IE8. There was
a time, when IE installations were a bit more friendly, than the
ones they have now.

HTH,
      Paul

IE wont be a problem, as I don't use that malfunctioning piece of
garbage, but I am aware that Autocomplete on Explorer is tied to a
setting in IE, and I would hate to have something screw with my
Autocomplete as I browse everything via Run instead of point-n-click.

I read all those comments, and I think I'm just gonna back out of this
one. My system is already ****ed up to the max as it is, and I've
dealt with problems more than once over the past 2 years that nothing
and nobody could solve except replacing the registry with an old
backup, and then dealing with the numerous problems related to a
system running on registry hives 6 months old. It goes on and on.

Installing what continually seems to be a bigger and bigger ****ing
joke these days, a malfunctioning configuration-twister Microsoft
calls a Service Pack, would just be begging for more tedious problems
that only an enthusiastic moron would love to waste time inspecting
and fixing.

I really don't get it. I remember the first time I got XP, 3 months
after it came out, back in like 7th grade. 'Was a little cluttered and
looked like shit on a 800x600 screen, it would crash randomly, devices
were a bitch to install because nothing was compatible, and not all
legacy programs and games would run on it -- much to the ignorance of
the users who didn't realize it was due to a compatibility issue with
some of the functions on the video card, not XP itself.
I won't bullshit you, I loathed XP and missed Windows 2000. But
then... M$ released a service pack and everything was vehemently more
relieving, and SP2 just perfected everything and I don't recall my
system looking like it got asshammered by 600 Nimdas after the
install, like the case is with SP3 when it came out. Why?
 
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Paul

Industrial said:
I won't bullshit you, I loathed XP and missed Windows 2000. But
then... M$ released a service pack and everything was vehemently more
relieving, and SP2 just perfected everything and I don't recall my
system looking like it got asshammered by 600 Nimdas after the
install, like the case is with SP3 when it came out. Why?

Maybe their heart just wasn't in it :)

I keep Win2K on this system, and it's interesting to compare
behaviors between the two. I stopped using Win2K, after they
started making games incompatible with it (purposely putting
OS checks in the code). I did like how the file caching in
Win2K, made your second search go faster.

Paul
 

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