Help please! System Restore Misbehaving

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CJSnet

Hi all, my System Restore only seemed to keep the last restore point, even
though I have 30GB free hard disk space.

I tried resetting the file by turning it off, rebooting, then on again, but
then it kept a few restore points only from the last 3 days (after 2 weeks
of being turned on).

Today I checked and it has no restore points saved!

Is there a way to do a full and proper reset of the System Restore
functionality? (Please don't mention clean installs - I have never found
these necessary as there is always another way.)
--
Thanks,
CJSnet

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Rick Rogers

Hi,

Are you positive there is only one point? When you start the restore, it
will only show the most recent one. You need to dig by clicking the line to
"choose a different restore point", and then in the following dialog click
the box to "show restore points older than 5 days".

If you run disk cleanup, one of the options there removes all but the most
recent point. You might want to check your settings there if you employ this
tool.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
 
C

CJSnet

Hi and thanks.

We can't see the "show restore points older than 5 days" dialog box you
mention. It definitely does not appear in the window where we can "choose a
different restore point". All that appears is a row of lines and only one
point showing.

Also we don't run Disk Cleanup at all regularly. Where can we check it is
not running automatically?

--
Thanks,
CJSnet

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Rick Rogers said:
Hi,

Are you positive there is only one point? When you start the restore, it
will only show the most recent one. You need to dig by clicking the line
to "choose a different restore point", and then in the following dialog
click the box to "show restore points older than 5 days".

If you run disk cleanup, one of the options there removes all but the most
recent point. You might want to check your settings there if you employ
this tool.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

CJSnet said:
Hi all, my System Restore only seemed to keep the last restore point,
even though I have 30GB free hard disk space.

I tried resetting the file by turning it off, rebooting, then on again,
but then it kept a few restore points only from the last 3 days (after 2
weeks of being turned on).

Today I checked and it has no restore points saved!

Is there a way to do a full and proper reset of the System Restore
functionality? (Please don't mention clean installs - I have never found
these necessary as there is always another way.)
--
Thanks,
CJSnet

Recommended:
* http://search.superhighstreet.com - Finds anything or they pay!
* http://www.superhighstreet.com - Beat the crowds with Virtual
Streetscapes

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R

Rick Rogers

Hi,

First, are you dual booting with Windows XP? There is a known issue with SR
where booting into an XP installation deletes Vista's SR point.

There is also this: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=312067&sd=RMVP

Open a command prompt by typing CMD into the start/search line, then right
click the entry in the start menu and choose 'run as administrator', then
run this:

vssadmin list shadowstorage

Copy/paste the results into a reply. To copy the results, right click the
header of the command prompt and choose edit/mark. Use the left mouse button
to click and drag over the results to highlight them. Right click the header
again and click edit/copy, then open a response to this post and click in
the message text area. Hit ctrl+v to paste it. It should look something like
this (pasted from my machine):

Used Shadow Copy Storage space: 27.015 GB
Allocated Shadow Copy Storage space: 27.855 GB
Maximum Shadow Copy Storage space: 28.359 GB

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

CJSnet said:
Hi and thanks.

We can't see the "show restore points older than 5 days" dialog box you
mention. It definitely does not appear in the window where we can "choose
a different restore point". All that appears is a row of lines and only
one point showing.

Also we don't run Disk Cleanup at all regularly. Where can we check it is
not running automatically?

--
Thanks,
CJSnet

Recommended:
* http://search.superhighstreet.com - Finds anything or they pay!
* http://www.superhighstreet.com - Beat the crowds with Virtual
Streetscapes

[remove 'teeth' to e-mail me]


Rick Rogers said:
Hi,

Are you positive there is only one point? When you start the restore, it
will only show the most recent one. You need to dig by clicking the line
to "choose a different restore point", and then in the following dialog
click the box to "show restore points older than 5 days".

If you run disk cleanup, one of the options there removes all but the
most recent point. You might want to check your settings there if you
employ this tool.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

CJSnet said:
Hi all, my System Restore only seemed to keep the last restore point,
even though I have 30GB free hard disk space.

I tried resetting the file by turning it off, rebooting, then on again,
but then it kept a few restore points only from the last 3 days (after 2
weeks of being turned on).

Today I checked and it has no restore points saved!

Is there a way to do a full and proper reset of the System Restore
functionality? (Please don't mention clean installs - I have never
found these necessary as there is always another way.)
--
Thanks,
CJSnet

Recommended:
* http://search.superhighstreet.com - Finds anything or they pay!
* http://www.superhighstreet.com - Beat the crowds with Virtual
Streetscapes

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C

CJSnet

Thanks Rick.

I have the factory installed NTFS drive on a Sony VAIO laptop so doubt the
cluster size is anything unusual.

Here are the results from the other check:

vssadmin 1.1 - Volume Shadow Copy Service administrative command-line tool
(C) Copyright 2001-2005 Microsoft Corp.

Shadow Copy Storage association
For volume: (C:)\\?\Volume{55e174cc-a118-11db-a9ac-806d6172696f}\
Shadow Copy Storage volume:
(C:)\\?\Volume{55e174cc-a118-11db-a9ac-806d617269
6f}\
Used Shadow Copy Storage space: 1.232 GB
Allocated Shadow Copy Storage space: 1.47 GB
Maximum Shadow Copy Storage space: 3.877 GB

It seems I have a smaller than normal amount allocated? But unlike XP I
can't see a way to change it. (I'm not using dual boot.)
--
Thanks,
CJSnet

Recommended:
* http://search.superhighstreet.com - Finds anything or they pay!
* http://www.superhighstreet.com - Beat the crowds with Virtual
Streetscapes

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Rick Rogers said:
Hi,

First, are you dual booting with Windows XP? There is a known issue with
SR where booting into an XP installation deletes Vista's SR point.

There is also this: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=312067&sd=RMVP

Open a command prompt by typing CMD into the start/search line, then right
click the entry in the start menu and choose 'run as administrator', then
run this:

vssadmin list shadowstorage

Copy/paste the results into a reply. To copy the results, right click the
header of the command prompt and choose edit/mark. Use the left mouse
button to click and drag over the results to highlight them. Right click
the header again and click edit/copy, then open a response to this post
and click in the message text area. Hit ctrl+v to paste it. It should look
something like this (pasted from my machine):

Used Shadow Copy Storage space: 27.015 GB
Allocated Shadow Copy Storage space: 27.855 GB
Maximum Shadow Copy Storage space: 28.359 GB

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

CJSnet said:
Hi and thanks.

We can't see the "show restore points older than 5 days" dialog box you
mention. It definitely does not appear in the window where we can
"choose a different restore point". All that appears is a row of lines
and only one point showing.

Also we don't run Disk Cleanup at all regularly. Where can we check it
is not running automatically?

--
Thanks,
CJSnet

Recommended:
* http://search.superhighstreet.com - Finds anything or they pay!
* http://www.superhighstreet.com - Beat the crowds with Virtual
Streetscapes

[remove 'teeth' to e-mail me]


Rick Rogers said:
Hi,

Are you positive there is only one point? When you start the restore, it
will only show the most recent one. You need to dig by clicking the line
to "choose a different restore point", and then in the following dialog
click the box to "show restore points older than 5 days".

If you run disk cleanup, one of the options there removes all but the
most recent point. You might want to check your settings there if you
employ this tool.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

Hi all, my System Restore only seemed to keep the last restore point,
even though I have 30GB free hard disk space.

I tried resetting the file by turning it off, rebooting, then on again,
but then it kept a few restore points only from the last 3 days (after
2 weeks of being turned on).

Today I checked and it has no restore points saved!

Is there a way to do a full and proper reset of the System Restore
functionality? (Please don't mention clean installs - I have never
found these necessary as there is always another way.)
--
Thanks,
CJSnet

Recommended:
* http://search.superhighstreet.com - Finds anything or they pay!
* http://www.superhighstreet.com - Beat the crowds with Virtual
Streetscapes

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C

CJSnet

brink said:
CJSnet;519847 said:
Thanks Rick.

I have the factory installed NTFS drive on a Sony VAIO laptop so doubt
the
cluster size is anything unusual.

Here are the results from the other check:

vssadmin 1.1 - Volume Shadow Copy Service administrative command-line
tool
(C) Copyright 2001-2005 Microsoft Corp.

Shadow Copy Storage association
For volume: (C:)\\?\Volume{55e174cc-a118-11db-a9ac-806d6172696f}\
Shadow Copy Storage volume:
(C:)\\?\Volume{55e174cc-a118-11db-a9ac-806d617269
6f}\
Used Shadow Copy Storage space: 1.232 GB
Allocated Shadow Copy Storage space: 1.47 GB
Maximum Shadow Copy Storage space: 3.877 GB

It seems I have a smaller than normal amount allocated? But unlike XP I
can't see a way to change it. (I'm not using dual boot.)
--
Thanks,
CJSnet

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CJSnet,

This tutorial will show you how to change the MAX size for the System
Restore backup size.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/76227-system-restore-disk-space.html

Thanks I think that will fix the issue!
--
Thanks,
CJSnet

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* http://search.superhighstreet.com - Finds anything or they pay!
* http://www.superhighstreet.com - Beat the crowds with Virtual
Streetscapes

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Rick Rogers

It should, and the report confirmed what I suspected.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

CJSnet said:
brink said:
CJSnet;519847 said:
Thanks Rick.

I have the factory installed NTFS drive on a Sony VAIO laptop so doubt
the
cluster size is anything unusual.

Here are the results from the other check:

vssadmin 1.1 - Volume Shadow Copy Service administrative command-line
tool
(C) Copyright 2001-2005 Microsoft Corp.

Shadow Copy Storage association
For volume: (C:)\\?\Volume{55e174cc-a118-11db-a9ac-806d6172696f}\
Shadow Copy Storage volume:
(C:)\\?\Volume{55e174cc-a118-11db-a9ac-806d617269
6f}\
Used Shadow Copy Storage space: 1.232 GB
Allocated Shadow Copy Storage space: 1.47 GB
Maximum Shadow Copy Storage space: 3.877 GB

It seems I have a smaller than normal amount allocated? But unlike XP I
can't see a way to change it. (I'm not using dual boot.)
--
Thanks,
CJSnet

Recommended:
* 'Choose your region for Quik-e-search'
(http://search.superhighstreet.com) - Finds anything or they pay!
* 'Superhighstreet - Virtual Online Shopping, REAL Streets! Beat the
Crowds on Main High Streets including London's Oxford Street, Notting
Hill's Portobello Road, Richmond's George Street, New York's Fifth
Avenue... Find,shopping,online shopping,shop,on'
(http://www.superhighstreet.com) - Beat the crowds with Virtual
Streetscapes

[remove 'teeth' to e-mail me]

CJSnet,

This tutorial will show you how to change the MAX size for the System
Restore backup size.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/76227-system-restore-disk-space.html

Thanks I think that will fix the issue!
--
Thanks,
CJSnet

Recommended:
* http://search.superhighstreet.com - Finds anything or they pay!
* http://www.superhighstreet.com - Beat the crowds with Virtual
Streetscapes

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