Help please on dual boot set -up.

[Guest]

i have an hp m7630.uk.xp media center pc.it has a 320gb hard drive.
i installed the vista home premium upgrade but because of various issues
with drivers,ati ccc,no itel viiv software etc ,i re-installed my xp media
center operating system using the hp recovery discs.So i am now once again
running xp with no problems.
I wish to now re-install the vista upgrade AND keep windows xp, dual-boot.
So i put the upgrade dvd in the dvd drive and restart the computer.
pressed any key to boot from cd.
windows is loading files appears then the install screen.
set up language,etc,etc.
clicked install now.
entered the product key.
Then a warning triangle appeared telling me ....with the product key you
have entered you must set up from within windows.
what do i do ,can i not set up a dual boot system?

 

[Guest]

Perform a new install of Vista as opposed to upgrading XP. When you do this,
there is an option to add a new partition for Vista to be installed in.
However, you must first have an unallocated partition for Vista. If you
don't you will have to get a program (partition magic) to repartition your
hard drive to make room for Vista. I have my Dell System with Windows 2000,
XP Home and Vista.

 

[Guest]

sir,do you mean use the upgrade disk i have but bypass the product key number
entering stage?then when it is installed ,activate it within the 30 days?

 

[Guest]

Insert your Vista Upgrade CD and re-boot from it. After you re-boot, you
will then be prompted for product key and other installation options. Choose
new install rather than upgrade. You must have a spare hardrive or spare
partition to install Vista in this way. The installation process allows you
to select this spare location and then will proceed with the installation.

I'm not sure whether your "Upgrade Disk" will allow you to perform a new
install, but you can try.

 

[Rock]

i have an hp m7630.uk.xp media center pc.it has a 320gb hard drive.
i installed the vista home premium upgrade but because of various issues
with drivers,ati ccc,no itel viiv software etc ,i re-installed my xp media
center operating system using the hp recovery discs.So i am now once again
running xp with no problems.
I wish to now re-install the vista upgrade AND keep windows xp, dual-boot.
So i put the upgrade dvd in the dvd drive and restart the computer.
pressed any key to boot from cd.
windows is loading files appears then the install screen.
set up language,etc,etc.
clicked install now.
entered the product key.
Then a warning triangle appeared telling me ....with the product key you
have entered you must set up from within windows.
what do i do ,can i not set up a dual boot system?

The Vista upgrade license says that you cannot have both the qualifying OS
and the Vista upgrade installed at the same time. If you want a dual boot
then you need to use a full version of Vista, or have two XP licenses, one
to use as the qualifying OS for the upgrade and one to uses in the dual
boot.

 

[mikeyhsd]

as has been pointed out in many news stories.
just DO NOT enter the product key when asked. be sure and select from the provided list the appropriate version that you have purchased.

after the install is complete, then install again from within vista and do an update.
then put your proper key in.


(e-mail address removed)@sport.rr.com

i have an hp m7630.uk.xp media center pc.it has a 320gb hard drive.
i installed the vista home premium upgrade but because of various issues
with drivers,ati ccc,no itel viiv software etc ,i re-installed my xp media
center operating system using the hp recovery discs.So i am now once again
running xp with no problems.
I wish to now re-install the vista upgrade AND keep windows xp, dual-boot.
So i put the upgrade dvd in the dvd drive and restart the computer.
pressed any key to boot from cd.
windows is loading files appears then the install screen.
set up language,etc,etc.
clicked install now.
entered the product key.
Then a warning triangle appeared telling me ....with the product key you
have entered you must set up from within windows.
what do i do ,can i not set up a dual boot system?

The Vista upgrade license says that you cannot have both the qualifying OS
and the Vista upgrade installed at the same time. If you want a dual boot
then you need to use a full version of Vista, or have two XP licenses, one
to use as the qualifying OS for the upgrade and one to uses in the dual
boot.

 

[Rock]

as has been pointed out in many news stories.
just DO NOT enter the product key when asked. be sure and select from the
provided list the appropriate version that you have purchased.

after the install is complete, then install again from within vista and do
an update.
then put your proper key in.

i have an hp m7630.uk.xp media center pc.it has a 320gb hard drive.
i installed the vista home premium upgrade but because of various issues
with drivers,ati ccc,no itel viiv software etc ,i re-installed my xp media
center operating system using the hp recovery discs.So i am now once again
running xp with no problems.
I wish to now re-install the vista upgrade AND keep windows xp, dual-boot.
So i put the upgrade dvd in the dvd drive and restart the computer.
pressed any key to boot from cd.
windows is loading files appears then the install screen.
set up language,etc,etc.
clicked install now.
entered the product key.
Then a warning triangle appeared telling me ....with the product key you
have entered you must set up from within windows.
what do i do ,can i not set up a dual boot system?

The Vista upgrade license says that you cannot have both the qualifying OS
and the Vista upgrade installed at the same time. If you want a dual boot
then you need to use a full version of Vista, or have two XP licenses, one
to use as the qualifying OS for the upgrade and one to uses in the dual
boot.
_____________

I'm not sure why you're replying to me, I'm not the one with the question.
In any case the double install method you cite does allow for a install of
an upgrade version without the qualifying OS installed, but the person still
needs to own a qualifying OS to use the upgrade version, and the XP license
for that qualifying version, per the Vista EULA cannot be installed at the
same time as the Vista upgrade, either as a dual boot or separately. The
double install doesn't change the licensing restrictions.

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

As I understand it, if you boot from the Vista upgrade DVD,
then enter the product key, it will gag, saying that an upgrade
DVD must be started from an existing Windows installation.

If one opens the upgrade DVD from within Windows XP,
will it then give an option to clean install to a second partition?
I don't know. Has anyone tried this?

I do know that much success has been reported doing a
clean install with the upgrade DVD, using the double install
method explained here:
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5932

Gary VanderMolen

 

[mikeyhsd]

microsoft was not worried about the qualifying upgrade or they would not have left this back door in place.

it is not for you to question microsoft's decisions.


(e-mail address removed)@sport.rr.com

as has been pointed out in many news stories.
just DO NOT enter the product key when asked. be sure and select from the
provided list the appropriate version that you have purchased.

after the install is complete, then install again from within vista and do
an update.
then put your proper key in.

i have an hp m7630.uk.xp media center pc.it has a 320gb hard drive.
i installed the vista home premium upgrade but because of various issues
with drivers,ati ccc,no itel viiv software etc ,i re-installed my xp media
center operating system using the hp recovery discs.So i am now once again
running xp with no problems.
I wish to now re-install the vista upgrade AND keep windows xp, dual-boot.
So i put the upgrade dvd in the dvd drive and restart the computer.
pressed any key to boot from cd.
windows is loading files appears then the install screen.
set up language,etc,etc.
clicked install now.
entered the product key.
Then a warning triangle appeared telling me ....with the product key you
have entered you must set up from within windows.
what do i do ,can i not set up a dual boot system?

The Vista upgrade license says that you cannot have both the qualifying OS
and the Vista upgrade installed at the same time. If you want a dual boot
then you need to use a full version of Vista, or have two XP licenses, one
to use as the qualifying OS for the upgrade and one to uses in the dual
boot.
_____________

I'm not sure why you're replying to me, I'm not the one with the question.
In any case the double install method you cite does allow for a install of
an upgrade version without the qualifying OS installed, but the person still
needs to own a qualifying OS to use the upgrade version, and the XP license
for that qualifying version, per the Vista EULA cannot be installed at the
same time as the Vista upgrade, either as a dual boot or separately. The
double install doesn't change the licensing restrictions.

 

[Rock]

microsoft was not worried about the qualifying upgrade or they would not
have left this back door in place.

it is not for you to question microsoft's decisions.

as has been pointed out in many news stories.
just DO NOT enter the product key when asked. be sure and select from the
provided list the appropriate version that you have purchased.

after the install is complete, then install again from within vista and do
an update.
then put your proper key in.

i have an hp m7630.uk.xp media center pc.it has a 320gb hard drive.
i installed the vista home premium upgrade but because of various issues
with drivers,ati ccc,no itel viiv software etc ,i re-installed my xp media
center operating system using the hp recovery discs.So i am now once again
running xp with no problems.
I wish to now re-install the vista upgrade AND keep windows xp, dual-boot.
So i put the upgrade dvd in the dvd drive and restart the computer.
pressed any key to boot from cd.
windows is loading files appears then the install screen.
set up language,etc,etc.
clicked install now.
entered the product key.
Then a warning triangle appeared telling me ....with the product key you
have entered you must set up from within windows.
what do i do ,can i not set up a dual boot system?

The Vista upgrade license says that you cannot have both the qualifying
OS
and the Vista upgrade installed at the same time. If you want a dual
boot
then you need to use a full version of Vista, or have two XP licenses,
one
to use as the qualifying OS for the upgrade and one to uses in the dual
boot.
_____________

I'm not sure why you're replying to me, I'm not the one with the question.
In any case the double install method you cite does allow for a install of
an upgrade version without the qualifying OS installed, but the person
still
needs to own a qualifying OS to use the upgrade version, and the XP
license
for that qualifying version, per the Vista EULA cannot be installed at the
same time as the Vista upgrade, either as a dual boot or separately. The
double install doesn't change the licensing restrictions.

_____________________

What part don't you understand? Technical feasibility does not equate to
licensing compliance. Here's an example maybe even you can understand. In
XP (as in Vista) OEM copies, by the license, are not transferrable to a new
computer, but there is nothing technically to stop that move, and activation
can be had by lying to the call taker during phone in activation.

Doing a double install is a technical way to avoid starting the installation
from the desktop of the qualifying OS. That is not a green light to
circumvent licensing restrictions, nor do I see any connection between it's
feasibility and drawing a conclusion that MS is making some sort of decision
to not care about people ignoring licensing restrictions. They are two
different issues.

Are you purposefully being obtuse?

 

[mikeyhsd]

and you certainly need to return to kindergarten.

(e-mail address removed)@sport.rr.com


microsoft was not worried about the qualifying upgrade or they would not
have left this back door in place.

it is not for you to question microsoft's decisions.

as has been pointed out in many news stories.
just DO NOT enter the product key when asked. be sure and select from the
provided list the appropriate version that you have purchased.

after the install is complete, then install again from within vista and do
an update.
then put your proper key in.

i have an hp m7630.uk.xp media center pc.it has a 320gb hard drive.
i installed the vista home premium upgrade but because of various issues
with drivers,ati ccc,no itel viiv software etc ,i re-installed my xp media
center operating system using the hp recovery discs.So i am now once again
running xp with no problems.
I wish to now re-install the vista upgrade AND keep windows xp, dual-boot.
So i put the upgrade dvd in the dvd drive and restart the computer.
pressed any key to boot from cd.
windows is loading files appears then the install screen.
set up language,etc,etc.
clicked install now.
entered the product key.
Then a warning triangle appeared telling me ....with the product key you
have entered you must set up from within windows.
what do i do ,can i not set up a dual boot system?

The Vista upgrade license says that you cannot have both the qualifying
OS
and the Vista upgrade installed at the same time. If you want a dual
boot
then you need to use a full version of Vista, or have two XP licenses,
one
to use as the qualifying OS for the upgrade and one to uses in the dual
boot.
_____________

I'm not sure why you're replying to me, I'm not the one with the question.
In any case the double install method you cite does allow for a install of
an upgrade version without the qualifying OS installed, but the person
still
needs to own a qualifying OS to use the upgrade version, and the XP
license
for that qualifying version, per the Vista EULA cannot be installed at the
same time as the Vista upgrade, either as a dual boot or separately. The
double install doesn't change the licensing restrictions.

_____________________

What part don't you understand? Technical feasibility does not equate to
licensing compliance. Here's an example maybe even you can understand. In
XP (as in Vista) OEM copies, by the license, are not transferrable to a new
computer, but there is nothing technically to stop that move, and activation
can be had by lying to the call taker during phone in activation.

Doing a double install is a technical way to avoid starting the installation
from the desktop of the qualifying OS. That is not a green light to
circumvent licensing restrictions, nor do I see any connection between it's
feasibility and drawing a conclusion that MS is making some sort of decision
to not care about people ignoring licensing restrictions. They are two
different issues.

Are you purposefully being obtuse?

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

What part don't you understand? Technical feasibility does not equate to
licensing compliance. Here's an example maybe even you can understand. In
XP (as in Vista) OEM copies, by the license, are not transferrable to a new
computer, but there is nothing technically to stop that move, and activation
can be had by lying to the call taker during phone in activation.

The "lying" remark is not correct (but expected from certain axe grinders).
One does not have to tell falsehoods to the call taker. The main
question that is asked, "will this copy be in use on more than one
computer" can truthfully be answered in the negative. From the
product key the call taker *knows* that this is an OEM copy,
yet they approve reactivation on a different PC anyway.

In Europe, consumer law requires an OEM copy to be fully
transferable.

Gary VanderMolen

 

[Rock]

The "lying" remark is not correct (but expected from certain axe
grinders).

One does not have to tell falsehoods to the call taker. The main question
that is asked, "will this copy be in use on more than one computer" can
truthfully be answered in the negative. From the
product key the call taker *knows* that this is an OEM copy,
yet they approve reactivation on a different PC anyway.

In Europe, consumer law requires an OEM copy to be fully
transferable.

I have not seen the text of an OEM license for a European version of any
software. I do know the text of the XP licenses I have seen specifically
state that the OS cannot be moved to a new computer. What someone chooses
to do is their decision, that's were integrity comes in, abiding by
something they agreed to.