Help needede with overdue upgrade


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Desmond

Hi I currently have the following:
Asus M2V MX Se (About 2006) with
DDR2 800
Athlon
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ - ADO4200IAA5CU

The Main board I am looking at is Gigabyte motherboard GA-M68MT-S2 it claims
AM3 but compatable with
Comp: Phenom2 X2, Athlon 2 X2
1) Will this processor fit in as a tempory solution?
2) What will be the effect of putting in 2x DDR3 800 or 1066

Any help on thiis one please

TIA

Desmond.
 
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SC Tom

Desmond said:
Hi I currently have the following:
Asus M2V MX Se (About 2006) with
DDR2 800
Athlon
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ - ADO4200IAA5CU

The Main board I am looking at is Gigabyte motherboard GA-M68MT-S2 it
claims
AM3 but compatable with
Comp: Phenom2 X2, Athlon 2 X2
1) Will this processor fit in as a tempory solution?
2) What will be the effect of putting in 2x DDR3 800 or 1066

Any help on thiis one please
Here's the complete supported CPU list:

http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3645

and your current CPU is not listed. It only shows Athlon II, no prior
generation Athlons.

I don't understand your second question. DDR3 is what it supports, so your
DDR2 won't fit. If your asking the difference between DDR3 800 and 1066,
it's 266 (sorry, I couldn't resist :) ).

I don't know if there are any places in your town that do it, but some
non-profits accept donations of working MB's and CPU's to put together
simple PC's for the needy. Your current system would work fine for someone
needing (wanting) a light gaming and email/browsing machine. Something to
think about.
 
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Flasherly

Hi I currently have the following:
Asus M2V MX Se (About 2006) with
DDR2 800
Athlon
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ - ADO4200IAA5CU

The Main board I am looking at is Gigabyte motherboard GA-M68MT-S2 it claims
AM3 but compatable with
Comp: Phenom2 X2, Athlon 2 X2
1) Will this processor fit in as a tempory solution?
2) What will be the effect of putting in 2x DDR3 800 or 1066

Any help on thiis one please

TIA

Desmond.

It'll be the same if you can use your existing processor. RAM won't
offer much as it isn't on the same magnitude of performance as a CPU,
and even there, depending on how you're using a computer, there may
not much significance to additional cores without a faster core
processing speed. If it's old enough to be prone to faults or fail,
though, a new computer is better than a broken one.
 
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Paul

Desmond said:
Hi I currently have the following:
Asus M2V MX Se (About 2006) with
DDR2 800
Athlon
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ - ADO4200IAA5CU

The Main board I am looking at is Gigabyte motherboard GA-M68MT-S2 it claims
AM3 but compatable with
Comp: Phenom2 X2, Athlon 2 X2
1) Will this processor fit in as a tempory solution?
2) What will be the effect of putting in 2x DDR3 800 or 1066

Any help on thiis one please

TIA

Desmond.

I agree with SC Tom. You're mixing things that don't work.

ADO4200IAA5CU

The processor is AM2.

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon 64 X2 4200+ - ADO4200IAA5CU (ADO4200CUBOX).html

On the Asus site, you can do a search based on the CPU in hand.

http://support.asus.com/cpu.aspx?SLanguage=en (use Search By CPU)

Set the fields to:

Type: AMD Athlon 64 X2
Name: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (CU), 512Kx2, rev.F2, 65W, SocketAM2

This is one example I picked from the list. It's a full sized ATX
motherboard, 12"x9.6". M4A78-E. The Asus list claims you can
run your processor in it. Boards like this, might not be on
the market any longer. Or, you can look for a remaining
low-end motherboard, made by Foxconn/ECS/Biostar or the like.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131368

*******

I think SC Tom is suggesting you dump the processor, motherboard,
and RAM, and upgrade all three.

$65 will get you a faster dual core processor and heatsink. AM3.
I picked a dual core, purely to get you a low price. You have
to decide if you want something better. This is my attempt
to duplicate your existing processor, plus get a little more speed.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103873

Then, you can go shopping for an AM3/DDR3 motherboard. I used
the asus.com support list for CPUs, listed the ones for that
$65 processor, and this is one of the motherboards.

ASUS M5A88-M AM3+ AMD 880G HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131758

New memory, a 2x2GB kit is $30.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

Total upgrade $200 USD or so.

Paul
 
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Desmond

Here's the complete supported CPU list:



http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3645



and your current CPU is not listed. It only shows Athlon II, no prior

generation Athlons.



I don't understand your second question. DDR3 is what it supports, so your

DDR2 won't fit. If your asking the difference between DDR3 800 and 1066,

it's 266 (sorry, I couldn't resist :) ).



I don't know if there are any places in your town that do it, but some

non-profits accept donations of working MB's and CPU's to put together

simple PC's for the needy. Your current system would work fine for someone

needing (wanting) a light gaming and email/browsing machine. Something to

think about.

No I realise that DDR2 will not fit on a DDR3 main board. My question is will a
CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ - ADO4200IAA5CU fit on the main board as this means I would only need to buy DDR3 memory for the board and cut the cost of the upgraide down a bit.
 
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SC Tom

Desmond said:
No I realise that DDR2 will not fit on a DDR3 main board. My question is
will a
CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ - ADO4200IAA5CU fit on the main board as this
means I would only need to buy DDR3 memory for the board and cut the cost
of the upgraide down a bit.

Since your CPU isn't listed, I would say it won't work in the Gigabyte MB,
so don't waste your money on new RAM. Quite often Newegg has CPU/RAM bundle
deals, if you wanted to go that way.
 
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Flasherly

No I realise that DDR2 will not fit on a DDR3 main board. My question is will a
CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ - ADO4200IAA5CU fit on the main board as this means I would only need to buy DDR3 memory for the board and cut the cost of the upgraide down a bit.

Apparently not. Look at SC's link and you'll see only Regors. What
does that mean...well, it's not the same as Windsor.

The Athlon II series is based on the AMD K10 architecture and derived
from the Phenom II series. However, unlike its Phenom siblings, it
does not contain any L3 Cache. There are two principal Athlon II dies:
the dual-core Regor die with 1 MB L2 Cache per core and the four-core
Propus with 512 KB per core. Regor is a native dual-core design with
lower TDP and additional L2 to offset the removal of L3 cache [2]. The
Athlon II x2 200e-220 have less L2 cache than the rest of the Regor
line. Includes: AMD Direct Connect Architecture AMD Wide Floating
Point Accelerator AMD Digital Media XPress 2.0 Technology AMD
PowerNow! Technology (Cool’n’Quiet Technology) HyperTransport
Technology (not the same as Intel Hyper-Threading Technology)
 
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Paul

SC said:
Since your CPU isn't listed, I would say it won't work in the Gigabyte
MB, so don't waste your money on new RAM. Quite often Newegg has CPU/RAM
bundle deals, if you wanted to go that way.

In addition to the CPUSupport information available from the motherboard manufacturer,
you can understand some basics about memory type support, from the Wikipedia
article. The AM3 processors support DDR3 according to this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AM2+

This page says that 4200+ is AM2.

http://products.amd.com/pages/deskt...=57&id=58&id=59&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

Paul
 

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