Help me move my WXP from one machine to another

[who]

I'm wondering what is going on here exactly.

I have WXP PRO activated on a P4 2.0GHz system that I scrapped.
My intention was to create a new AMD ATHLON 64 (ASUS) 3400+ setup and
simply put the c drive from the old system on the new system. As soon
as the boot got acclimated to the new hardwares via PnP I figured I
could then simply contact MSoft to activate the WXP software on the
new system.

The new system will not Boot! In fact, the drive is pretty much not
recognized. I tried a clean install of my WXP on a scrap 10G drive I
had laying around and it is working fine. So I think my new system is
okay.

So I figure I can get my big c drive to work by doing a fresh install
of WXP (and activate it with MSoft of course). But but but, I don't
want to lose all my work and installations of other softwares.

Can some suggest a path for me to follow here, before I bite the
bullet and do a clean reinstall of WXP on the c drive from the old
system?

Thanks

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

A Repair Installation is often necessary to properly detect the new
hardware:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/repaxp.htm

 

[Jim Macklin]

You need to do a repair installation, your data and settings
should remain untouched and safe.
see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q315341&ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341



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| I'm wondering what is going on here exactly.
|
| I have WXP PRO activated on a P4 2.0GHz system that I
scrapped.
| My intention was to create a new AMD ATHLON 64 (ASUS)
3400+ setup and
| simply put the c drive from the old system on the new
system. As soon
| as the boot got acclimated to the new hardwares via PnP I
figured I
| could then simply contact MSoft to activate the WXP
software on the
| new system.
|
| The new system will not Boot! In fact, the drive is
pretty much not
| recognized. I tried a clean install of my WXP on a scrap
10G drive I
| had laying around and it is working fine. So I think my
new system is
| okay.
|
| So I figure I can get my big c drive to work by doing a
fresh install
| of WXP (and activate it with MSoft of course). But but
but, I don't
| want to lose all my work and installations of other
softwares.
|
| Can some suggest a path for me to follow here, before I
bite the
| bullet and do a clean reinstall of WXP on the c drive from
the old
| system?
|
| Thanks

 

[Bruce Chambers]

I'm wondering what is going on here exactly.

I have WXP PRO activated on a P4 2.0GHz system that I scrapped.
My intention was to create a new AMD ATHLON 64 (ASUS) 3400+ setup and
simply put the c drive from the old system on the new system. As soon
as the boot got acclimated to the new hardwares via PnP I figured I
could then simply contact MSoft to activate the WXP software on the
new system.

The new system will not Boot! In fact, the drive is pretty much not
recognized. I tried a clean install of my WXP on a scrap 10G drive I
had laying around and it is working fine. So I think my new system is
okay.

So I figure I can get my big c drive to work by doing a fresh install
of WXP (and activate it with MSoft of course). But but but, I don't
want to lose all my work and installations of other softwares.

Can some suggest a path for me to follow here, before I bite the
bullet and do a clean reinstall of WXP on the c drive from the old
system?

Thanks

Normally, and assuming a retail license (many OEM installations
and licenses are not transferable to a new motherboard - check yours
before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually identical
(same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the
one on which the WinXP installation was originally performed, you'll
need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at
the very least:

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with
licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this
point. You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the
OS. (If you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as
picking up a Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch
style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K
before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to
accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On
installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This
is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much
more stable than the Win9x group.

As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
important data before starting.

This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a
Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more
than 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key,
you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet without
problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone
call.


--

Bruce Chambers

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[who]

Normally, and assuming a retail license (many OEM installations
and licenses are not transferable to a new motherboard - check yours
before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually identical
(same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the
one on which the WinXP installation was originally performed, you'll
need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at
the very least:

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with
licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this
point. You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the
OS. (If you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as
picking up a Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch
style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K
before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to
accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On
installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This
is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much
more stable than the Win9x group.

As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
important data before starting.

This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a
Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more
than 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key,
you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet without
problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone
call.

I agree with all that you say.

But neither my WXP c drive from the old P4 system nor its 'GHOST'
backup will boot in the new AMD system.
Further, when I boot from my WXP PRO CD in the new AMD system, I do
not get any window giving me a 'restore' option. It only allows
destructive install of WXP, which is really the last thing I want to
do.

Thanks

 

[Jim Macklin]

I agree with all that you say.
|
| But neither my WXP c drive from the old P4 system nor its
'GHOST'
| backup will boot in the new AMD system.
| Further, when I boot from my WXP PRO CD in the new AMD
system, I do
| not get any window giving me a 'restore' option. It only
allows
| destructive install of WXP, which is really the last thing
I want to
| do.
|
| Thanks
You may agree, but you do not understand. When you set the
BIOS to boot from the CD, you get options to run the
recovery console or install. When you select install you
have the option to do a repair install, not just a
destructive format and install.
see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q315341&ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341
and read it until you understand.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


| On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 19:25:10 -0700, Bruce Chambers
|
|
| > Normally, and assuming a retail license (many OEM
installations
| >and licenses are not transferable to a new motherboard -
check yours
| >before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually
identical
| >(same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version,
etc.) to the
| >one on which the WinXP installation was originally
performed, you'll
| >need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade)
installation, at
| >the very least:
| >
| >How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
|

http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

| >
| > The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing
to do with
| >licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter,
at this
| >point. You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out
from under the
| >OS. (If you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy,
think of it as
| >picking up a Cape Cod style home and then setting it down
onto a Ranch
| >style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP,
like Win2K
| >before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when
it comes to
| >accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it.
On
| >installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware
found. This
| >is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS
family is so much
| >more stable than the Win9x group.
| >
| > As always when undertaking such a significant
change, back up any
| >important data before starting.
| >
| > This will also probably require re-activation,
unless you have a
| >Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's
been more
| >than 120 days since you last activated that specific
Product Key,
| >you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet
without
| >problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5
minute phone
| >call.
|
|
| I agree with all that you say.
|
| But neither my WXP c drive from the old P4 system nor its
'GHOST'
| backup will boot in the new AMD system.
| Further, when I boot from my WXP PRO CD in the new AMD
system, I do
| not get any window giving me a 'restore' option. It only
allows
| destructive install of WXP, which is really the last thing
I want to
| do.
|
| Thanks

 

[who]

Sorry to be thick-headed.

I saw the 'recorvery console', but when I took that path it wanted me
to select c:\windows which I selected and it took me there, showing
dos line c:\windows.

I would have to enter a command. What command?


Thanks

 

[Jim Carlock]

Try setting the BIOS to use PIO Mode 4 Only for the
hard disk access to start. Then make sure that your HDD
IDE cable is hooked up to an the appropriate controller.

IF that works, you'll need to install the drivers for the hard
disk IDE controllers, which will probably be on a mother-
board CD.

Good luck.

--
Jim Carlock
Post replies to newsgroup.

Sorry to be thick-headed.

I saw the 'recorvery console', but when I took that path it wanted me
to select c:\windows which I selected and it took me there, showing
dos line c:\windows.

I would have to enter a command. What command?


Thanks

 

[Jim Macklin]

The recovery console is a command line interface that looks
like DOS. To do the repair install, you must follow the
instructions that are given by Microsoft (and others) on HOW
TO DO AN IN-PLACE or REPAIR INSTALL.
see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q315341&ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

You will need to read each and every word and even follow
the links on the page to understand the instructions.
But the procedure is basically;
boot the computer with the CD in the drive
when the screen offers the screen, do not press the "r"
just press enter and select to install Windows and you will
be asked "where" you want to install Windows. Select the
current installation and it will fix your problem.

If you cannot understand this post or the MS instructions,
hire a high school geek.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


| Sorry to be thick-headed.
|
| I saw the 'recorvery console', but when I took that path
it wanted me
| to select c:\windows which I selected and it took me
there, showing
| dos line c:\windows.
|
| I would have to enter a command. What command?
|
|
| Thanks
|
|
| On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 08:43:05 -0600, "Jim Macklin"
|
| >I agree with all that you say.
| >|
| >| But neither my WXP c drive from the old P4 system nor
its
| >'GHOST'
| >| backup will boot in the new AMD system.
| >| Further, when I boot from my WXP PRO CD in the new AMD
| >system, I do
| >| not get any window giving me a 'restore' option. It
only
| >allows
| >| destructive install of WXP, which is really the last
thing
| >I want to
| >| do.
| >|
| >| Thanks
| >You may agree, but you do not understand. When you set
the
| >BIOS to boot from the CD, you get options to run the
| >recovery console or install. When you select install you
| >have the option to do a repair install, not just a
| >destructive format and install.
| >see
|

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q315341&ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

| >and read it until you understand.
|

 

[who]

The recovery console is a command line interface that looks
like DOS. To do the repair install, you must follow the
instructions that are given by Microsoft (and others) on HOW
TO DO AN IN-PLACE or REPAIR INSTALL.
see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q315341&ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

You will need to read each and every word and even follow
the links on the page to understand the instructions.
But the procedure is basically;
boot the computer with the CD in the drive
when the screen offers the screen, do not press the "r"
just press enter and select to install Windows and you will
be asked "where" you want to install Windows. Select the
current installation and it will fix your problem.

If you cannot understand this post or the MS instructions,
hire a high school geek.

I had a junk small HDD laying around, so I installed a virgin WXP on
it (on my new AMD machine). My intent was to prove that the new
machine runs okay, and it did.

Of course the XP desktop had nothing on it. Then I attempted the same
'repair-install in place' just to see if I have same problem.

Voila! It worked. It was then I discovered that there was a window
containing the 'R' (restore) option you have been describing. You
know, 'To repair selected Windows XP installation press R'. R was
also an option at the bottom.

Now then, I never saw this window when I tried the restore in place
against the c drive containing XP PRO from my former P4 System. Why I
have no idea. No wonder I could not do what I was supposed to do!
BTW both XP drives (original and backup) still run on the XP system
just fine.

Anyway, this will be my last post on this problem.

Don't be so condesencing.

 

[Jim Macklin]

Don't be so demanding and pitiful.

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


| On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:11:51 -0600, "Jim Macklin"
|
| >The recovery console is a command line interface that
looks
| >like DOS. To do the repair install, you must follow the
| >instructions that are given by Microsoft (and others) on
HOW
| >TO DO AN IN-PLACE or REPAIR INSTALL.
| >see
|

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q315341&ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

| >
| >You will need to read each and every word and even follow
| >the links on the page to understand the instructions.
| >But the procedure is basically;
| >boot the computer with the CD in the drive
| >when the screen offers the screen, do not press the "r"
| >just press enter and select to install Windows and you
will
| >be asked "where" you want to install Windows. Select the
| >current installation and it will fix your problem.
| >
| >If you cannot understand this post or the MS
instructions,
| >hire a high school geek.
|
|
|
| I had a junk small HDD laying around, so I installed a
virgin WXP on
| it (on my new AMD machine). My intent was to prove that
the new
| machine runs okay, and it did.
|
| Of course the XP desktop had nothing on it. Then I
attempted the same
| 'repair-install in place' just to see if I have same
problem.
|
| Voila! It worked. It was then I discovered that there
was a window
| containing the 'R' (restore) option you have been
describing. You
| know, 'To repair selected Windows XP installation press
R'. R was
| also an option at the bottom.
|
| Now then, I never saw this window when I tried the restore
in place
| against the c drive containing XP PRO from my former P4
System. Why I
| have no idea. No wonder I could not do what I was
supposed to do!
| BTW both XP drives (original and backup) still run on the
XP system
| just fine.
|
| Anyway, this will be my last post on this problem.
|
| Don't be so condesencing.
|