Help: Difference between partitions seen by Partition Magic and by Windows

[Charles Weppler]

I've asked Partition Magic for help on this problem three
times, and received no response. I'm using Windows 98SE
on an HP Pavilion 8575C. Can anybody offer advice on how
to make this work?

I am using Partition Magic 8.0 on a new 120GB hard drive.
I attempted to partition it into thirds. I created a
39077.2 GB primary partition (D named 120p1, and an
extended partition containing two logical partitions,
120p2 (E:, 39084.6GB) and 120p3 (F:, 39077.2GB). In
Windows 98SE, Windows Explorer shows four partitions on
this drive, 120p1 (D, 120p2 (E, 120p2 (F, and 120p3
(G. I am baffled how Windows 98 is coming up with the
extra copy of 120p2. The partinfo I attached is from this
most recent attempt.

When I earlier tried to partition the drive as just one
extended partition containing three logical partitions,
Windows 98 showed five partitions, 120p1 (D, 120p2 (E,
120p3 (F, 120p2 (G, and 120p3 (H. I also have a

partinfo from this attempt, which showed partitions 120p1
(D, 120p2 (G, and 120p3 (H. To minimize confusion,
I am not attaching this older partinfo. If it would help
resolve this, I will be happy to send it.

I am running out of things to try. Please advise me how
to fix this.

Regards,
Charles Weppler

Here's the partinfo from the most recent attempt, with
D: primary and E: and F: logical.

PowerQuest PartitionInfo 8.0 -- Windows 95/98/Me Version
Date Generated: 02/08/04 19:59:08
Copyright (c)1994-2002, PowerQuest Corporation
Permission is granted for this utility to be freely copied so long
as it is not modified in any way. All other rights are reserved.

PowerQuest, makers of PartitionMagic(r), Drive Image(tm), and
DriveCopy(tm), can be reached at:
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E-mail: (e-mail address removed)

General System Information:
Total Physical Memory (bytes): 401,645,568
Used Physical Memory: (bytes): 146,677,760
Maximum Page File Size: (bytes): 1,745,833,984
Current Page File Size: (bytes): 99,991,552



===========================================================================================================
Disk Geometry Information for Disk 1: 3877 Cylinders, 240 Heads,
63 Sectors/Track
System PartSect # Boot BCyl Head Sect FS ECyl Head
Sect StartSect NumSects
===========================================================================================================
NO NAME 0 0 80 0 1 1 0C 1022 239
63 63 58,620,177
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values are:
0 0 80 0 1 1 0C 3876 239 63 63
58620177

===========================================================================================================
Disk Geometry Information for Disk 2: 15881 Cylinders, 240 Heads,
63 Sectors/Track
System PartSect # Boot BCyl Head Sect FS ECyl Head
Sect StartSect NumSects
===========================================================================================================
120P1 0 0 00 0 1 1 0C 1023 239
63 63 80,045,217
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values are:
0 0 00 0 1 1 0C 5293 239 63 63
80045217
0 1 00 1023 0 1 0F 1023 239
63 80,045,280 160,075,440
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values are:
0 1 00 5294 0 1 0F 15880 239 63 80045280
160075440
120P2 80,045,280 0 00 1023 1 1 0B 1023 239
63 80,045,343 80,045,217
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values are:
80045280 0 00 5294 1 1 0B 10587 239 63 80045343
80045217
80,045,280 1 00 1023 0 1 05 1023 239
63 160,090,560 80,030,160
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values are:
80045280 1 00 10588 0 1 05 15880 239 63 160090560
80030160
120P3 160,090,560 0 00 1023 1 1 0B 1023 239
63 160,090,623 80,030,097
Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
Actual values are:
160090560 0 00 10588 1 1 0B 15880 239 63 160090623
80030097



===========================================================================================================
Partition Information for Disk 1: 28,623.2 Megabytes
Volume PartType Status Size MB PartSect #
StartSect TotalSects
===========================================================================================================
C:NO NAME FAT32X Pri,Boot 28,623.1 0 0
63 58,620,177


===========================================================================================================
Partition Information for Disk 2: 117,246.4 Megabytes
Volume PartType Status Size MB PartSect #
StartSect TotalSects
===========================================================================================================
D:120P1 FAT32X Pri 39,084.6 0 0
63 80,045,217
ExtendedX Pri 78,161.8 0 1
80,045,280 160,075,440
EPBR Log 39,084.6 None --
80,045,280 80,045,280
F:120P2 FAT32 Log 39,084.6 80,045,280 0
80,045,343 80,045,217
EPBR Log 39,077.2 80,045,280 1
160,090,560 80,030,160
G:120P3 FAT32 Log 39,077.2 160,090,560 0
160,090,623 80,030,097


===========================================================================================================
Boot Record for drive C: (Drive: 1, Starting sector: 63, Type:
FAT32)
===========================================================================================================
1. Jump: EB 58 90
2. OEM Name: MSWIN4.1
3. Bytes per Sector: 512
4. Sectors per Cluster: 32
5. Reserved Sectors: 32
6. Number of FAT's: 2
7. Reserved: 0x0000
8. Reserved: 0x0000
9. Media Descriptor: 0xF8
10. Sectors per FAT: 0
11. Sectors per Track: 63 (0x3F)
12. Number of Heads: 240 (0xF0)
13. Hidden Sectors: 63 (0x3F)
14. Big Total Sectors: 58620177 (0x37E7911)
15. Big Sectors per FAT: 14309
16. Extended Flags: 0x0000
17. FS Version: 0
18. First Cluster of Root: 2 (0x2)
19. FS Info Sector: 1
20. Backup Boot Sector: 6
21. Reserved: 000000000000000000000000
22. Drive ID: 0x80
23. Reserved for NT: 0x00
24. Extended Boot Sig: 0x29
25. Serial Number: 0x2E6E13F3
26. Volume Name: NO NAME
27. File System Type: FAT32
28. Boot Signature: 0xAA55

===========================================================================================================
Boot Record for drive D: (Drive: 2, Starting sector: 63, Type:
FAT32)
===========================================================================================================
1. Jump: EB 58 90
2. OEM Name: MSWIN4.1
3. Bytes per Sector: 512
4. Sectors per Cluster: 64
5. Reserved Sectors: 36
6. Number of FAT's: 2
7. Reserved: 0x0000
8. Reserved: 0x0000
9. Media Descriptor: 0xF8
10. Sectors per FAT: 0
11. Sectors per Track: 63 (0x3F)
12. Number of Heads: 240 (0xF0)
13. Hidden Sectors: 63 (0x3F)
14. Big Total Sectors: 80045217 (0x4C564A1)
15. Big Sectors per FAT: 9770
16. Extended Flags: 0x0000
17. FS Version: 0
18. First Cluster of Root: 2 (0x2)
19. FS Info Sector: 1
20. Backup Boot Sector: 6
21. Reserved: 000000000000000000000000
22. Drive ID: 0x80
23. Reserved for NT: 0x00
24. Extended Boot Sig: 0x29
25. Serial Number: 0x40269317
26. Volume Name: 120P1
27. File System Type: FAT32
28. Boot Signature: 0xAA55

===========================================================================================================
Boot Record for drive F: (Drive: 2, Starting sector: 80,045,343,
Type: FAT32)
===========================================================================================================
1. Jump: EB 58 90
2. OEM Name: MSWIN4.1
3. Bytes per Sector: 512
4. Sectors per Cluster: 64
5. Reserved Sectors: 36
6. Number of FAT's: 2
7. Reserved: 0x0000
8. Reserved: 0x0000
9. Media Descriptor: 0xF8
10. Sectors per FAT: 0
11. Sectors per Track: 63 (0x3F)
12. Number of Heads: 240 (0xF0)
13. Hidden Sectors: 80045343 (0x4C5651F)
14. Big Total Sectors: 80045217 (0x4C564A1)
15. Big Sectors per FAT: 9770
16. Extended Flags: 0x0000
17. FS Version: 0
18. First Cluster of Root: 2 (0x2)
19. FS Info Sector: 1
20. Backup Boot Sector: 6
21. Reserved: 000000000000000000000000
22. Drive ID: 0x80
23. Reserved for NT: 0x00
24. Extended Boot Sig: 0x29
25. Serial Number: 0x804D2636
26. Volume Name: 120P2
27. File System Type: FAT32
28. Boot Signature: 0xAA55

===========================================================================================================
Boot Record for drive G: (Drive: 2, Starting sector: 160,090,623,
Type: FAT32)
===========================================================================================================
1. Jump: EB 58 90
2. OEM Name: MSWIN4.1
3. Bytes per Sector: 512
4. Sectors per Cluster: 64
5. Reserved Sectors: 32
6. Number of FAT's: 2
7. Reserved: 0x0000
8. Reserved: 0x0000
9. Media Descriptor: 0xF8
10. Sectors per FAT: 0
11. Sectors per Track: 63 (0x3F)
12. Number of Heads: 240 (0xF0)
13. Hidden Sectors: 160090623 (0x98AC9FF)
14. Big Total Sectors: 80030097 (0x4C52991)
15. Big Sectors per FAT: 9768
16. Extended Flags: 0x0000
17. FS Version: 0
18. First Cluster of Root: 2 (0x2)
19. FS Info Sector: 1
20. Backup Boot Sector: 6
21. Reserved: 000000000000000000000000
22. Drive ID: 0x80
23. Reserved for NT: 0x00
24. Extended Boot Sig: 0x29
25. Serial Number: 0xC073B957
26. Volume Name: 120P3
27. File System Type: FAT32
28. Boot Signature: 0xAA55

 

[Michael Kimmer]

Charles Weppler wrote:

I've asked Partition Magic for help on this problem three
times, and received no response. I'm using Windows 98SE
on an HP Pavilion 8575C. Can anybody offer advice on how
to make this work?

I am using Partition Magic 8.0 on a new 120GB hard drive.
I attempted to partition it into thirds. I created a
39077.2 GB primary partition (D named 120p1, and an
extended partition containing two logical partitions,
120p2 (E:, 39084.6GB) and 120p3 (F:, 39077.2GB). In
Windows 98SE, Windows Explorer shows four partitions on
this drive, 120p1 (D, 120p2 (E, 120p2 (F, and 120p3
(G. I am baffled how Windows 98 is coming up with the
extra copy of 120p2. The partinfo I attached is from this
most recent attempt.

When I earlier tried to partition the drive as just one
extended partition containing three logical partitions,
Windows 98 showed five partitions, 120p1 (D, 120p2 (E,
120p3 (F, 120p2 (G, and 120p3 (H. I also have a

partinfo from this attempt, which showed partitions 120p1
(D, 120p2 (G, and 120p3 (H. To minimize confusion,
I am not attaching this older partinfo. If it would help
resolve this, I will be happy to send it.

I am running out of things to try. Please advise me how
to fix this.

Regards,
Charles Weppler

Here's the partinfo from the most recent attempt, with
D: primary and E: and F: logical.

============================================================================
===============================
Disk Geometry Information for Disk 1: 3877 Cylinders, 240 Heads,
63 Sectors/Track
System PartSect # Boot BCyl Head Sect FS ECyl Head
Sect StartSect NumSects
============================================================================
===============================
NO NAME 0 0 80 0 1 1 0C 1022 239

A cylinder calue of 1022 rather than 1023 looks suspicious to me.
It should be, as a result of the LBA to CHS translation, 1023...

Similar 1022 cylinder values are pretty well known from Dell machines:
Google Web Search:
http://www.google.nl/search?num=100&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=+1022++cylinders++Dell&lr=

Google Groups Search:
http://groups.google.nl/groups?num=...TF-8&q=+1022++cylinders++Dell&sa=N&tab=wg&lr=

--
M.f.G.
Michael Kimmer

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