hdd dying ?

B

Burzek

Hi,

I have a Desknote pc and the 20gb 2.5" Toshiba drive changes s.m.a.r.t
attributes from time to time...
Can anyone tell me are these normal? Is my drive dying?
Here is the log via Active Smart:
----------
09 November 2003 21:33:33 :: INFO
SMART monitoring started - TOSHIBA MK2018GAP [52P70430T]

21 November 2003 13:28:41 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 68
New value : 67

21 November 2003 13:44:03 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 68
New value : 67

24 November 2003 16:27:06 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 67
New value : 66

24 November 2003 17:27:05 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 67
New value : 66

25 November 2003 08:33:42 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : 09 - Power-on Hours Count
Last checked value : 75
New value : 74

25 November 2003 10:33:42 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : 09 - Power-on Hours Count
Last checked value : 75
New value : 74

27 November 2003 19:38:39 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : DE - Loaded Hours
Last checked value : 83
New value : 82

28 November 2003 17:38:39 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 66
New value : 65

05 December 2003 19:08:38 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 65
New value : 64

06 December 2003 11:48:26 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : 0A - Spin Up Retry Count
Last checked value : 142
New value : 143

11 December 2003 10:10:37 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 64
New value : 63

12 December 2003 22:10:39 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : 09 - Power-on Hours Count
Last checked value : 74
New value : 73

15 December 2003 01:10:41 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 63
New value : 62

20 December 2003 21:09:56 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 62
New value : 61

24 December 2003 14:36:21 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 61
New value : 60

29 December 2003 00:44:41 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : DE - Loaded Hours
Last checked value : 82
New value : 81

29 December 2003 03:44:41 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 60
New value : 59

30 December 2003 08:44:42 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : 09 - Power-on Hours Count
Last checked value : 73
New value : 72

01 January 2004 15:35:26 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 59
New value : 58

10 January 2004 21:54:46 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 58
New value : 57

16 January 2004 09:25:17 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : 09 - Power-on Hours Count
Last checked value : 72
New value : 71

18 January 2004 13:10:16 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 57
New value : 56

23 January 2004 14:16:46 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : DE - Loaded Hours
Last checked value : 81
New value : 80

----------
Should I buy a new drive? Or does this drive can go for 1 or 2 years
more?

Thanks,
Burzek
 
C

CJT

Burzek said:
Hi,

I have a Desknote pc and the 20gb 2.5" Toshiba drive changes s.m.a.r.t
attributes from time to time...
Can anyone tell me are these normal? Is my drive dying?
Here is the log via Active Smart:
----------
09 November 2003 21:33:33 :: INFO
SMART monitoring started - TOSHIBA MK2018GAP [52P70430T]

21 November 2003 13:28:41 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 68
New value : 67

21 November 2003 13:44:03 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 68
New value : 67

24 November 2003 16:27:06 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 67
New value : 66

24 November 2003 17:27:05 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 67
New value : 66

25 November 2003 08:33:42 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : 09 - Power-on Hours Count
Last checked value : 75
New value : 74

25 November 2003 10:33:42 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : 09 - Power-on Hours Count
Last checked value : 75
New value : 74

27 November 2003 19:38:39 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : DE - Loaded Hours
Last checked value : 83
New value : 82

28 November 2003 17:38:39 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 66
New value : 65

05 December 2003 19:08:38 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 65
New value : 64

06 December 2003 11:48:26 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : 0A - Spin Up Retry Count
Last checked value : 142
New value : 143

11 December 2003 10:10:37 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 64
New value : 63

12 December 2003 22:10:39 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : 09 - Power-on Hours Count
Last checked value : 74
New value : 73

15 December 2003 01:10:41 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 63
New value : 62

20 December 2003 21:09:56 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 62
New value : 61

24 December 2003 14:36:21 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 61
New value : 60

29 December 2003 00:44:41 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : DE - Loaded Hours
Last checked value : 82
New value : 81

29 December 2003 03:44:41 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 60
New value : 59

30 December 2003 08:44:42 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : 09 - Power-on Hours Count
Last checked value : 73
New value : 72

01 January 2004 15:35:26 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 59
New value : 58

10 January 2004 21:54:46 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 58
New value : 57

16 January 2004 09:25:17 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : 09 - Power-on Hours Count
Last checked value : 72
New value : 71

18 January 2004 13:10:16 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 57
New value : 56

23 January 2004 14:16:46 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : DE - Loaded Hours
Last checked value : 81
New value : 80

----------
Should I buy a new drive? Or does this drive can go for 1 or 2 years
more?

Thanks,
Burzek
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Those don't look serious to me. That said, always keep good backups.
 
R

Rod Speed

Most of these are completely normal.

The power on hours are just the amount of time its been used for.

Similarly loaded hours. The difference between power on hours
and loaded hours is just how much of the power on time was
with the heads loaded, in other words not in a sleep mode etc.

Load/Unload cycle count is just the count of the times
it went from load to unload, unloaded the heads etc.

The actual numbers dont make much sense tho, the
ones that should be increasing are reported as dropping.

Try DiskCheckup from
http://www.passmark.com/products/diskcheckup.htm

Be aware that you need to restart the program, just hitting the
GetInfo button repeatedly doesnt requery the drive for some reason.
See how those values compare with what Active Smart reports.


The Spinup retry count is a bit of a worry. Basically that means
that it had to have another go at spinning up that many times.
That might just be due to the power supply etc tho, with a
laptop. Thats not necessarily indicating the drive is dying etc.
Or just Active Smart having a massive brain fart for some reason.


Obviously you should have everything that you'll slash
your wrists if you lose backed up to multiple CDRs etc
even if you have to buy a CD burner to do that, because
drives can die without warning and laptops/notebooks
are very easy to drop or get stolen etc.


I have a Desknote pc and the 20gb 2.5" Toshiba drive changes s.m.a.r.t
attributes from time to time...
Can anyone tell me are these normal? Is my drive dying?
Here is the log via Active Smart:
----------
09 November 2003 21:33:33 :: INFO
SMART monitoring started - TOSHIBA MK2018GAP [52P70430T]

21 November 2003 13:28:41 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 68
New value : 67

21 November 2003 13:44:03 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 68
New value : 67

24 November 2003 16:27:06 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 67
New value : 66

24 November 2003 17:27:05 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 67
New value : 66

25 November 2003 08:33:42 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : 09 - Power-on Hours Count
Last checked value : 75
New value : 74

25 November 2003 10:33:42 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : 09 - Power-on Hours Count
Last checked value : 75
New value : 74

27 November 2003 19:38:39 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : DE - Loaded Hours
Last checked value : 83
New value : 82

28 November 2003 17:38:39 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 66
New value : 65

05 December 2003 19:08:38 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 65
New value : 64

06 December 2003 11:48:26 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : 0A - Spin Up Retry Count
Last checked value : 142
New value : 143

11 December 2003 10:10:37 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 64
New value : 63

12 December 2003 22:10:39 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : 09 - Power-on Hours Count
Last checked value : 74
New value : 73

15 December 2003 01:10:41 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 63
New value : 62

20 December 2003 21:09:56 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 62
New value : 61

24 December 2003 14:36:21 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 61
New value : 60

29 December 2003 00:44:41 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : DE - Loaded Hours
Last checked value : 82
New value : 81

29 December 2003 03:44:41 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 60
New value : 59

30 December 2003 08:44:42 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : 09 - Power-on Hours Count
Last checked value : 73
New value : 72

01 January 2004 15:35:26 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 59
New value : 58

10 January 2004 21:54:46 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 58
New value : 57

16 January 2004 09:25:17 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : 09 - Power-on Hours Count
Last checked value : 72
New value : 71

18 January 2004 13:10:16 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : C1 - Load/Unload Cycle Count
Last checked value : 57
New value : 56

23 January 2004 14:16:46 :: ALERT
[TOSHIBA MK2018GAP] - SMART attribute changed:
Attribute : DE - Loaded Hours
Last checked value : 81
New value : 80

----------
Should I buy a new drive? Or does this drive can go for 1 or 2 years
more?

Thanks,
Burzek
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