HD Crash

[Hey you]

My hard drive crashed & I need a new one.

Any recommendations?
I only need 40- 60 GB

The one that crashed was a two year old IBM Deskstar 40GB.

Motherboard is KT7E from ABIT.
OS is NT, but I plan to dual boot with RedHat Linux on the new drive.

I noticed that a lot of online stores & mfgs are pushing SATA and UATA
over IDE & EIDE.
Why is that?

Are these new drives faster, cooler & quieter?

Do I need different cables or adapter cards if I use an ATA type drive?
Do the ATA drives work with NT?

Right now, I have the 4 pin Molex power connector & IDE interface.
Do the ATA drives need a different ribbon cable between the drive & MB?

Do I need an Ultra ATA/133 PCI Adapter card? Or is that something to
make IDE go faster?

TIA

 

[Rod Speed]

My hard drive crashed & I need a new one.

Any recommendations?
I only need 40- 60 GB

The one that crashed was a two year old IBM Deskstar 40GB.

They aint called DeathStars for nothing.

Motherboard is KT7E from ABIT.
OS is NT, but I plan to dual boot with RedHat Linux on the new drive.

I noticed that a lot of online stores & mfgs are
pushing SATA and UATA over IDE & EIDE.

The only thing new is SATA. The others are just
various ways of referring to the same type of drive.

Why is that?

Are these new drives faster, cooler & quieter?

All new drives always are.

Do I need different cables or adapter cards if I use an ATA type drive?
Nope.

Do the ATA drives work with NT?
Yep.

Right now, I have the 4 pin Molex power connector & IDE interface.
Do the ATA drives need a different ribbon cable between the drive & MB?
Nope.

Do I need an Ultra ATA/133 PCI Adapter card?
Nope.

Or is that something to make IDE go faster?

Its primarily for those who want more than 4 drives.

 

[S.Heenan]

My hard drive crashed & I need a new one.

Any recommendations?
I only need 40- 60 GB

The one that crashed was a two year old IBM Deskstar 40GB.

Motherboard is KT7E from ABIT.
OS is NT, but I plan to dual boot with RedHat Linux on the new drive.

I noticed that a lot of online stores & mfgs are pushing SATA and UATA
over IDE & EIDE.
Why is that?

Serial ATA is a new interface released in the past 6 months or so. In terms
of performance, it has very little advantage over an ATA100 hard drive,
however, SATA shows great promise in the next few years.
Look at 60-80GB drives from Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate and even
Samsung. Newer drives offer an 8MB cache which is 4x greater than
previously. If you shop around, the premium for 20GB extra storage may be
quite small.
FYI, Hitachi bought the IBM hard drive line.

 

[drumguy1384]

My hard drive crashed & I need a new one.

Any recommendations?
I only need 40- 60 GB

I've always had good success with Maxtor Drives ... and I was a Western
Digital fan for years.

I would look for a 60 or 80GB Maxtor or Western Digital with 7200RPM and 8MB
cache ... these will be plenty quick. Though the 7200 RPM can make them a
little louder than their 5400RPM siblings.

The one that crashed was a two year old IBM Deskstar 40GB.

I had two identical IBM 20GB hard drives in a row that were bad ...
overpriced paperweights (of course, I didn't pay for them, so it was all
good ... but I would have really liked to have used them.)

Motherboard is KT7E from ABIT.
OS is NT, but I plan to dual boot with RedHat Linux on the new drive.

I noticed that a lot of online stores & mfgs are pushing SATA and UATA
over IDE & EIDE.
Why is that?

I think you're a bit confused on the terms here. SATA is a new interface
that's come out recently ... but UATA is the same as EIDE, just different
names for the same thing.

Are these new drives faster, cooler & quieter?

Generally speaking, yes. Though they will still be pretty warm, and will
make a little noise, they'll almost certainly be faster ... especially the
8MB cache models.

Do I need different cables or adapter cards if I use an ATA type drive?

SATA, yes ... UATA, no

Do the ATA drives work with NT?

Yes, both UATA and SATA work with NT ... as well as SCSI and Fiber Channel.
The actual interface is pretty much irrelevant to the OS, so long as the
drivers are available to tell it how to communicate with the controller.

Right now, I have the 4 pin Molex power connector & IDE interface.
Do the ATA drives need a different ribbon cable between the drive & MB?

SATA, yes ... UATA, no

Do I need an Ultra ATA/133 PCI Adapter card? Or is that something to
make IDE go faster?

Generally speaking you won't see much improvement in speed by adding an
ATA/133 card. Your motherboard ports are ATA/100 ... and little if any speed
increase can be measured by upgrading to ATA/133. In fact, a lot of hard
drives don't see much performance improvement with ATA/100 over ATA/66.

Though pretty much any drive you get these days will be ATA/133 they are
backwards compatible with ATA/100 and will work fine.


Drumguy

 

[Hey you]

I've always had good success with Maxtor Drives ... and I was a Western
Digital fan for years.

I would look for a 60 or 80GB Maxtor or Western Digital with 7200RPM and 8MB
cache ... these will be plenty quick. Though the 7200 RPM can make them a
little louder than their 5400RPM siblings.

Ditto on that. I have 3 Maxtors now & they all still work. One is 10 or
so years old.
I had a WD that did not start after the system was shut off for 3 weeks.
Their tech guy told me to hit it with a screw driver handle (like a
phillips #3) when it booted. That got it to work. They replaced the
drive too.

I think you're a bit confused on the terms here. SATA is a new interface
that's come out recently ... but UATA is the same as EIDE, just different
names for the same thing. [snip]

Thanks - your reply was very helpful.

And now I need tips or some site to visit that will explain strategies
for HD formatting dual boot NT & Linux.

I want at least one partition or logical drive that can be read by both
OSs. Is that possible?

Thanks

 

[Rod Speed]

Not always they aren't. Example: Seagate 120GB SATA 7200.7 drive.
Gets quite hot to the touch without cooling.

So does the Barra IV which preceded it.

You would have been better off on the quieter since the
7200.7 has the AAM disabled and the Barra IV doesnt.

 

[mchiper]

I had a WD that did not start after the system was shut off for 3 weeks.
Their tech guy told me to hit it with a screw driver handle (like a
phillips #3) when it booted. That got it to work. They replaced the
drive too.

Caused by polished heads sticking to polished platters.

Took some longer than others to figure out how to
prevent it, cope with it.

Landing zones near the spindle provide the power to
break loose, no matter what.

Can twist the suspensions into a pretzel.
Can tear oxide coating off the platter.
If it does, can become a lathe, till it the "bit" breaks off.

If design allows landing in data areas,
a minimal, problem is correctible with CRC.
Drive is still "defect free" ...