hard drive upgrade

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hey all, im thinking of buying a 120gb hard drive, i know how to setup inside
my comp but i know for sure that it cant be that easy, is there some trick to
get the files off the old drive to put into new, or cant there be a second
hard drive!?
ive heard stories about that but i dont know how to do,

tips n tricks would be good :)
 
Hi,

"What are you planning to use it for?" is the big question. Do you want to
use it for additional storage or do you want to migrate your existing system
onto it? The answer to this question will help define how you set it up.

Basically, for additional storage, you power off, connect the drive to a
free EIDE connector and power connector, and make sure the jumper on the
drive is set correctly (master/slave/cable-select). Then simply power up and
logon, run diskmgmt.msc and use this tool to partition and format the drive.

If you are migrating the system over to it, most drive manufacturers provide
a copy tool (either included on disk or downloadable from their web site)
and instructions, and this is the best way to do it.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
The so-called "trick" is to remove the source hard drive immediately after
the copy. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Doing otherwise usually
botches the bootability of the cloned (target for the copy) hard drive.

Its stated in no uncertain terms concerning free cloning software by the
hard drive manufacturers. Yet, many people in their excitement, fail to do
this.

A clone cannot be performed while the PC is booted from the onboard XP
environment.
 
After cloning the system drive, can you exit Windows and power down
normally, or should you just turn the power off/pull the plug?

I understand that what you DON'T want to have happen is for WinXP to
start up with two copies of the same system drive in the machine, but
does WinXP do anything on shut down that might cause problems in this
situation?
 
Lil' Dave said:
A clone cannot be performed while the PC is booted from
the onboard XP environment.

HUH?????

WTF are you talking about?

I regularly clone my "C" drive to another internal EIDE drive without
problem. And I have my BIOS set so that if my "C" drive fails, the
cloned drive will be the boot drive.
 
Again, a clone cannot occur within the XP environment, IF the hard drive
contains the XP boot partition and subsequent files.

Here's a support help page from WD on that, and relates to remove the copied
hard drive before utilizing the cloned hard drive for booting.
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc...9zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1jb3B5IGhhcmQgZHJpdmU*&p_li=#

Note that the Windows version of this copying program is not utilized here.
This is typical.

It does not suggest using bios deprivation of anything connected to the
onboard ide to confuse the user.
 
Lil' Dave said:
Again, a clone cannot occur within the XP environment, IF the hard drive
contains the XP boot partition and subsequent files.


As long as the clone cannot see its "parent" partition when it is
booted up for the 1st time, it can be booted up in subsequent times
with the "parent" partition visible to it, and the clone will view the
"parent" as just another Local Disk (Disk Management's term for
"partition"), that is, as just another file structure, and files can be
dragged 'n dropped between the two partitions as if they were on
the same hard drive. The requirement that the clone be booted up
*for the 1st time* without its "parent" visible to it, though, is critical.

*TimDaniels*
 
Timothy Daniels said:
As long as the clone cannot see its "parent" partition when it is
booted up for the 1st time, it can be booted up in subsequent times
with the "parent" partition visible to it, and the clone will view the
"parent" as just another Local Disk (Disk Management's term for
"partition"), that is, as just another file structure, and files can be
dragged 'n dropped between the two partitions as if they were on
the same hard drive. The requirement that the clone be booted up
*for the 1st time* without its "parent" visible to it, though, is critical.

*TimDaniels*

How do you ensure 100% that that can't happen please?

I don't like hijacking Browny's thread, but he seems to have his
solution, so I hope I'll be excused. It's is an area that still
confuses the heck out of me! I have two current threads on the subject
in microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain and
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:
Subject: Application 'settings' - where recorded?
Subject: Why this configuration not working?
but perhaps I can also summarise it briefly here, as I need all the
input I can get!

I originally had no problems at all with my simple dual boot system.
That was a 2 disk PC I set up about 3 years ago, after adding a 2nd
HD, with:
Disk 0: C (Original XP Home OS), and D (Data)
Disk 1: E (Copy of OS), and F (Backup

I never had to use the copy on E much, and of course it became
progressively outdated as I wasn't rigorous about re-copying it (it's
about 12GB so takes ages.)

But recently Disk 0 (a 4 year-old Maxtor 60GB) developed bad blocks.
So I'm now trying to replace both of those 60GB disks with 200GB. So
far I've failed. From help in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage, it's
pretty clear that this time I've somehow transgressed - broken the
rules about copying - despite thinking I was merely following the same
procedure as those 3 years ago. Basically I just use PowerQuest Drive
Image > Copy Drive. But I'm pretty sure that boots up *automatically*
when it's finished its stuff in 'Caldera DOS'? So doesn't that risk
breaking 'The Rule'?

I'd have to ramble on even longer to give a full description of where
I am, but this screenshot from Disk Mgmt summarises it hopefully
clearly:
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Images/CurrentStatus2.gif
Note that (although it wasn't obvious to me), E does NOT yet contain a
copy of my OS. I thought I'd copied it with DI, as I did H, but looks
like I just made a partition, as Explorer just shows it containing
Favorites
RECYCLER
System Volume Information
- total size 292 bytes.

Bottom line: I want to get back to the relative simplicity of:
Disk 0: C (OS, based on what is presently in H), D (Data)
Disk 1: E (Copy of that OS, or any recent one), F (Backup)

Any help I can get on achieving this safely would be much appreciated
please. Today I was simply going to try copying H to E, powering down,
removing C, and rebooting. But I'm nervous about it now, particularly
after getting messages on my last attempt like this:
"A problem is preventing Windows accurately checking the licence for
this computer. Error code 0x80090006"
 
Just realised the original thread was 4 months old! I'll repost my
query as a separate new thread.
 

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