GTX 7900 Owners Bought Card at the right time.

[Skybuck Flying]

GTX 8800 USELESS BECAUSE IT NEEDS VISTA/DIRECTX10 LOL.

YYAAARRRRRGGGHHH LOL.

LUCKY ME !

LUCKY YOU IF YOU GOT A GTX 7900 TOO !

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Skybuck Flying]

Well,

GTX 8800 will probably work on XP too..

So then maybe you just got a slighter fast card... but you can forgot about
DX10 features

So no increase in graphics quality except maybe higher polygon models and
such...

But special dx10 effects on xp <- nope ?!

And ofcourse for those that went to use gtx 8800 for special gpgpu
programming maybe cuda available for xp as well ?

Gjjeeeeee.

Bye,
Skybuck

 

[Stephan Rose]

Well,

GTX 8800 will probably work on XP too..

So then maybe you just got a slighter fast card... but you can forgot
about DX10 features

So no increase in graphics quality except maybe higher polygon models
and such...

But special dx10 effects on xp <- nope ?!

And ofcourse for those that went to use gtx 8800 for special gpgpu
programming maybe cuda available for xp as well ?

What kind of bullshit are you spouting off?

The 8800 GTX works perfectly fine under XP and Linux. You don't need
Vista to use a 8800 GTX.

Of course DirectX10 is Vista only, but currently there are extremely few
games using it at all and most of those just offer DX10 as a secondary
advanced graphics option. Not many developers are about to release their
games for DX10 only and piss off over 90% of their customers.

Also, DX10 is only an API. The benefits of the graphics card such as
increased bandwidth, faster CPU Clock, faster memory clock, more memory,
the new pipeline, etc. are available to any API as that's how the
frigging card works regardless of the API used with it.

So bottom line, before you go spouting off bullshit at least make sure it
has a marginal hint of truth to it.

--
Stephan
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[Skybuck Flying]

Name one other api which implements DX10 like features ?

Maybe OpenGL ?

Seems OpenGL not used that much anymore by game developers...

What value does GTX 8800 offer for Vista haters ?

See nvidia kinda getting locked into Vista HAHA !

So if Vista sux, and people dont want it, why would you want a GTX 8800 hmmm
?

Little bit more speed, little bit more memory ? For what ?

GTX 7900 probably handles everything so far just fine.

Bye,
Skybuck LOL.

 

[Stephan Rose]

Name one other api which implements DX10 like features ?

Maybe OpenGL ?

Seems OpenGL not used that much anymore by game developers...

I think that OpenGL 3.0 has a chance to do better than OpenGL 2.0 but we
will see. Of course OpenGL has the same "problem" as DX10 has that it
will only work with 8000 series or up nVidia cards and whatever
equivalent from ATI as far as I know. The API though is completely redone
and also primarily shader based like DX10 as far as I know. I'm still
waiting to really get a chance to look at the specs though. Not sure if
they've been made available to the public yet.

What value does GTX 8800 offer for Vista haters ?

Better performance?

See nvidia kinda getting locked into Vista HAHA !

nVidia is not locked into Vista.

So if Vista sux, and people dont want it, why would you want a GTX 8800
hmmm ?

Because it performs better? Because I can play Supreme Commander with a
1,000 unit limit against other players at a resolution of 1600x1200 with
all settings maxed out and still get smooth framerates?

--
Stephan
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[Conor]

What kind of bullshit are you spouting off?

The 8800 GTX works perfectly fine under XP and Linux. You don't need
Vista to use a 8800 GTX.

And then you shoot yourself in the foot by saying...

Of course DirectX10 is Vista only,

So bottom line, before you go spouting off bullshit at least make sure it
has a marginal hint of truth to it.

It does. The 8x series are DX10 cards. XP and Linux don't have DX10 so
you're not using functionality that you've paid for.

 

[Stephan Rose]

And then you shoot yourself in the foot by saying...


It does. The 8x series are DX10 cards. XP and Linux don't have DX10 so
you're not using functionality that you've paid for.

Yes I am using the functionality I've paid for. I am using the
performance of my video card. And, DX10 is not the only API in this
world, OpenGL exists as well.

--
Stephan
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[Arno Wagner]

GTX 8800 USELESS BECAUSE IT NEEDS VISTA/DIRECTX10 LOL.

YYAAARRRRRGGGHHH LOL.

LUCKY ME !

LUCKY YOU IF YOU GOT A GTX 7900 TOO !

Bye,
Skybuck.

Too much drugs?

 

[Joseph Conway [MSFT]]

Play Bioshock on an 8800GTX and let me know if you dont think DirectX 10 is
worth it <G>

Or wait for Crysis. All that being said, I think that DX10 is going to be
a major win for gamers. If you dont like Vista, thats one thing, but DX10
doesnt have a lot of issues in my experience.

Joseph W. Conway, MCSE
Windows Server Group

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

 

[Stephan Rose]

Play Bioshock on an 8800GTX and let me know if you dont think DirectX 10
is worth it <G>

Or wait for Crysis. All that being said, I think that DX10 is going to
be a major win for gamers. If you dont like Vista, thats one thing, but
DX10 doesnt have a lot of issues in my experience.

The problem with DX10 is that it's tied to Vista however. A mistake in my
opinion which might open the doors wide for OpenGL3 which has just been
announced in August and specs should be available soon.

Using DX10 means that a user has to have a DX10 capable card and Vista.

Using OpenGL3 only means that a user has to have a OpenGL3 capable card.
Operating system is irrelevant.

So if I wanted to design a product that I knew required a recent high
level video card, I'd personally choose the API that gives me the
broadest range of options within that type of hardware.

--
Stephan
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[Conor]

Yes I am using the functionality I've paid for.

Not if you're not running Vista. Might as well have saved money and got
a 7x series card that'd be just as fast in DX9/OpenGL.

I am using the
performance of my video card. And, DX10 is not the only API in this
world, OpenGL exists as well.

However DirectX 10 is the only API that uses the full functionality of
the card...

 

[RF]

However DirectX 10 is the only API that uses the full functionality of
the card...

When you're running a DX game, you're not using the OpenGL aspects of your
card either. So, why buy a card that supports OpenGL? You've just wasted
money buying features you aren't using.

Oh.. and what if you don't use your computer to watch DVDs? You wasted
money buying a card that has built in hardware DVD decoding capabilities.

RF.

 

[gamefixer]

Name one other api which implements DX10 like features ?

Maybe OpenGL ?

Seems OpenGL not used that much anymore by game developers...

What value does GTX 8800 offer for Vista haters ?

See nvidia kinda getting locked into Vista HAHA !

So if Vista sux, and people dont want it, why would you want a GTX 8800 hmmm
?

Little bit more speed, little bit more memory ? For what ?

GTX 7900 probably handles everything so far just fine.

Bye,
Skybuck LOL.

My single 8800GTX doubles the 3DMARK06 score I got with two 7900GT's
in WinXP. Outside of the fact that you have to use Vista in order to
play DX10 games this card is an incredible piece of hardware. Every
game that was choppy with the 7900's is smooth as silk with the 8800.

I think you should try one first hand before you start making comments
like these.

Matt

 

[gamefixer]

Not if you're not running Vista. Might as well have saved money and got
a 7x series card that'd be just as fast in DX9/OpenGL.

Are you seriously trying to say that a 7x series card is just as fast
as an 8x series card in DX9/XP? Maybe the lower end 8 series cards but
certainly not the 8800's.

Matt

 

[Stephan Rose]

My single 8800GTX doubles the 3DMARK06 score I got with two 7900GT's in
WinXP. Outside of the fact that you have to use Vista in order to play
DX10 games this card is an incredible piece of hardware. Every game that
was choppy with the 7900's is smooth as silk with the 8800.

I think you should try one first hand before you start making comments
like these.

These people just simply don't understand that things like DirectX and
OpenGL are just APIs to abstract the hardware.

The video hardware itself does not even know what DirectX or OpenGL is.
There is no such thing as "DirectX Hardware" or "OpenGL Hardware". It's
just a CPU with some memory attached that's capable of processing vertex
and texture data in hardware.

Now granted, newer APIs will grant access to newer features that previous
APIs didn't have. But that's happening on the API level not the hardware
level.

Faster hardware will always be faster no matter what version API is used.

--
Stephan
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