going crazy - need help with share problem

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unfrostedpoptart

Hi.

XP is trying to take my sanity away (again) and I could use some help!

I've got a problem with sharing between PCs that makes no sense to me
and used to work.

Setup:
laptop_a : running XP Pro
laptop_b : running XP Pro
desktop_a : running XP Pro

desktop_a has 3 hard drives, each with multiple partitions and multple
shared folders.
All the shares are set up (for the moment - until I get this simple
version working right_) with permission Read Everyone - the default.
All three PCs have advanced file-sharing enabled.
All three PCs have users USER1 and USER2 with the same passwords on all
three.
They are all on the same local network and in the same workgroup.

Here's the problem:

On laptop_a, both USER1 and USER2 can see all the shares on desktop_a
and access the files. However, on laptop_b, USER1 can see all the
shares on desktop_a and access the files, but USER2 can only access the
shares on two of the drives in desktop_a. If I try and access shares
on the third drive I get the following:


--------------------
\\desktop_a\share1 is not accessible. You might not have permission to
use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to
find out if you have access permissions.

Access is denied.

OK
--------------------

I'm not an XP expert, but I'm pretty good at working with it and have
been doing this kind of sharing for a long time. In fact, this all
used to work perfectly until I had to replace desktop_a because it's
notherboard died. However, the drive with the share problems was moved
from the old desktop to the new one. For a few weeks I even had it in
a USB enclosure attached to laptop_b and everything worked fine.

I've search google and found some referrences to the error I see, but
none of them seemed to be the problem.

Any ideas?

Thanks much, in advance!

David
 
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unfrostedpoptart

unfrostedpoptart said:
Hi.

XP is trying to take my sanity away (again) and I could use some help!

I've got a problem with sharing between PCs that makes no sense to me
and used to work.

Setup:
laptop_a : running XP Pro
laptop_b : running XP Pro
desktop_a : running XP Pro

desktop_a has 3 hard drives, each with multiple partitions and multple
shared folders.
All the shares are set up (for the moment - until I get this simple
version working right_) with permission Read Everyone - the default.
All three PCs have advanced file-sharing enabled.
All three PCs have users USER1 and USER2 with the same passwords on all
three.
They are all on the same local network and in the same workgroup.

Here's the problem:

On laptop_a, both USER1 and USER2 can see all the shares on desktop_a
and access the files. However, on laptop_b, USER1 can see all the
shares on desktop_a and access the files, but USER2 can only access the
shares on two of the drives in desktop_a. If I try and access shares
on the third drive I get the following:

Ok, now I'm even more insane: I was looking at this more and it's
gotten even weirder: Now, on laptop_a, USER2 can get to the shares on
the drive-in-question on desktop_a, but USER1 can't. However, on
laptop_b, it's the opposite: USER1 can get to them, but USER2 can't. I
rebooted everything - no change! Help!

David
 
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Guest

unfrostedpoptart said:
Ok, now I'm even more insane: I was looking at this more and it's
gotten even weirder: Now, on laptop_a, USER2 can get to the shares on
the drive-in-question on desktop_a, but USER1 can't. However, on
laptop_b, it's the opposite: USER1 can get to them, but USER2 can't. I
rebooted everything - no change! Help!

David

have you tried the net use comman in a command prompt? eg net use h:
\\desktop_a\sharename, using this command you can send a user name and
password, this sometimes will provide a little more help. type net use /?
for options. Also you could try net use \\<ipaddress>\sharename eg
\\192.168.1.1\sharename, sometimes name resolution causes this sort of
problem. If the above works you could try entries in the host and lmhosts
files to fix naming issues.

These might ot might not help, good luck.


Toby
 
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unfrostedpoptart

Toby said:
have you tried the net use comman in a command prompt? eg net use h:
\\desktop_a\sharename, using this command you can send a user name and
password, this sometimes will provide a little more help. type net use /?
for options. Also you could try net use \\<ipaddress>\sharename eg
\\192.168.1.1\sharename, sometimes name resolution causes this sort of
problem. If the above works you could try entries in the host and lmhosts
files to fix naming issues.

Toby,

thanks for the suggestions, but it seems to act just like connecting
from Windows Explorer. The domain/user/password gave errors about
multiple users connecting to the same resource. I'm not sure, but I
think that's because I've got a workgroup and not a domain in my
network setup.

The name resolution isn't an issue since it can connect to shares on
the desktop on other drives by \\pcname\sharename.

David
 
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Chuck

Hi.

XP is trying to take my sanity away (again) and I could use some help!

I've got a problem with sharing between PCs that makes no sense to me
and used to work.

Setup:
laptop_a : running XP Pro
laptop_b : running XP Pro
desktop_a : running XP Pro

desktop_a has 3 hard drives, each with multiple partitions and multple
shared folders.
All the shares are set up (for the moment - until I get this simple
version working right_) with permission Read Everyone - the default.
All three PCs have advanced file-sharing enabled.
All three PCs have users USER1 and USER2 with the same passwords on all
three.
They are all on the same local network and in the same workgroup.

Here's the problem:

On laptop_a, both USER1 and USER2 can see all the shares on desktop_a
and access the files. However, on laptop_b, USER1 can see all the
shares on desktop_a and access the files, but USER2 can only access the
shares on two of the drives in desktop_a. If I try and access shares
on the third drive I get the following:


--------------------
\\desktop_a\share1 is not accessible. You might not have permission to
use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to
find out if you have access permissions.

Access is denied.

OK
--------------------

I'm not an XP expert, but I'm pretty good at working with it and have
been doing this kind of sharing for a long time. In fact, this all
used to work perfectly until I had to replace desktop_a because it's
notherboard died. However, the drive with the share problems was moved
from the old desktop to the new one. For a few weeks I even had it in
a USB enclosure attached to laptop_b and everything worked fine.

I've search google and found some referrences to the error I see, but
none of them seemed to be the problem.

Any ideas?

Thanks much, in advance!

David

David,

Check both the Sharing (network access control only) and Security (local and
network access control). For successful network access, you need both set
properly.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/09/server-access-authorisation.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/09/server-access-authorisation.html

And look at a known shares access issue.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/11/irregularities-in-individual-share.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/11/irregularities-in-individual-share.html
 
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unfrostedpoptart

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David,

Check both the Sharing (network access control only) and Security (local and
network access control). For successful network access, you need both set
properly.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/09/server-access-authorisation.html>

Chuck,

thanks so much - the cacls command fixed it! I need to learn this
more. I'm pretty good with shares, but I never figured out the NTFS
permissions enough (I'm more a chmod/chown Unix person). I still have
no clue why it used to work and how the permissions got changed.

Now I can fine-tune everything instead of using Everyone.

Thanks again,

David
 
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Chuck

Chuck,

thanks so much - the cacls command fixed it! I need to learn this
more. I'm pretty good with shares, but I never figured out the NTFS
permissions enough (I'm more a chmod/chown Unix person). I still have
no clue why it used to work and how the permissions got changed.

Now I can fine-tune everything instead of using Everyone.

Thanks again,

David

That's great news, David. Thanks for letting us know!
 

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