Going back to original web page

[Guest]

Whenever I want to view a new web page by right clicking and going to Open In
A New Window, it works fine, but when I want to go back to the original page
the Back button is, of course, grayed out so I can't use it, so I click on
the X close button to return to the original page, but it closes IE
altogether. This is a recent development, and I don't know what caused it.
It used to work fine. What happened? Any suggestions?

 

[Jan Il]

Hi Mike

You don't mention the version of Windows you are using, but, try the
following and see if it helps:

First, go to Tools>Internet Options>Advanced tab>
Reset to the "Default" settings
Do the same thing with the Security settings.

Close IE and reopen. See if that resolves the problem. If so, then you can
slowly reapply the personal settings that you changed before one by one, to
see which one, if any, may have caused the problem.

also..

Internet Browsing
http://www.santarosa.k12.fl.us/parents/TechTips.htm

Grayed out Buttons and Menu Items that Don't Work:

It is a convention in many Windows programs and in the popular browsers to
"gray out" items that currently aren't applicable. So, if you think your
BACK button isn't working, it may be because in that particular instance it
isn't applicable. For example, if you just opened your browser and this was
the first page you viewed, then there isn't a page to go back to, so the
BACK button is grayed out.

Is it only a few sites, or all of them? Is the site or page opening in a
new window? Opening in a new widow can disable the Back button. In all
dominant browsers, webmasters using the <a target="_blank"> tag to force a
link to open in a new window breaks the Back button. The new window does
not retain the browser history of the previous window, so the "Back" button
is disabled. It does sound as it this might be what is happening on these
sites.

also.....

Help Getting Back
http://www.soundfeelings.com/free/back.htm

As an additional note.....you should also be aware that webmasters can, and
many do, set up their website coding to prevent use of the back button,
which will create the Page has Expired situation, and there is nothing you
can do to correct or prevent this in IE. Once you are sure you have covered
all avenues on your end to be sure it is not IE related, you can send a
message to the webmaster and ask them to check or remove that part of their
coding. It is a widely used practice by many webmasters, but,
unfortunately, there seems to be no web policy to prevent this type of
entrapment, so to speak, other than peer pressure that it is not good form.
Sometimes, it is just that they have not kept up with the changes in XP or
SP2 that may affect how those users can access or view their website. It's
just another aspect of the problem many are not aware of.

Hope this helps.

Jan
MS MVP - Windows IE/OE [DTS/AumHa]
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

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[Guest]

Jan, I am using XP, and IE6. The suggestions you had didn't work. It
happens on ALL web pages. Yes, when I click on Open in A New Window, it
does. But, even after applying your suggestions, whenever I click on Close
(after opening in a new window) IE shuts down instead of going back to the
original page which is what it's supposed to do, and has done in the past. I
just can't figure out what's going on. Do you have any other suggestions?
--
Mike McDonald

Hi Mike

You don't mention the version of Windows you are using, but, try the
following and see if it helps:

First, go to Tools>Internet Options>Advanced tab>
Reset to the "Default" settings
Do the same thing with the Security settings.

Close IE and reopen. See if that resolves the problem. If so, then you can
slowly reapply the personal settings that you changed before one by one, to
see which one, if any, may have caused the problem.

also..

Internet Browsing
http://www.santarosa.k12.fl.us/parents/TechTips.htm

Grayed out Buttons and Menu Items that Don't Work:

It is a convention in many Windows programs and in the popular browsers to
"gray out" items that currently aren't applicable. So, if you think your
BACK button isn't working, it may be because in that particular instance it
isn't applicable. For example, if you just opened your browser and this was
the first page you viewed, then there isn't a page to go back to, so the
BACK button is grayed out.

Is it only a few sites, or all of them? Is the site or page opening in a
new window? Opening in a new widow can disable the Back button. In all
dominant browsers, webmasters using the <a target="_blank"> tag to force a
link to open in a new window breaks the Back button. The new window does
not retain the browser history of the previous window, so the "Back" button
is disabled. It does sound as it this might be what is happening on these
sites.

also.....

Help Getting Back
http://www.soundfeelings.com/free/back.htm

As an additional note.....you should also be aware that webmasters can, and
many do, set up their website coding to prevent use of the back button,
which will create the Page has Expired situation, and there is nothing you
can do to correct or prevent this in IE. Once you are sure you have covered
all avenues on your end to be sure it is not IE related, you can send a
message to the webmaster and ask them to check or remove that part of their
coding. It is a widely used practice by many webmasters, but,
unfortunately, there seems to be no web policy to prevent this type of
entrapment, so to speak, other than peer pressure that it is not good form.
Sometimes, it is just that they have not kept up with the changes in XP or
SP2 that may affect how those users can access or view their website. It's
just another aspect of the problem many are not aware of.

Hope this helps.

Jan
MS MVP - Windows IE/OE [DTS/AumHa]
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or other readers.
How to make a good newsgroup post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

Whenever I want to view a new web page by right clicking and going to Open
In
A New Window, it works fine, but when I want to go back to the original
page
the Back button is, of course, grayed out so I can't use it, so I click on
the X close button to return to the original page, but it closes IE
altogether. This is a recent development, and I don't know what caused
it.
It used to work fine. What happened? Any suggestions?

 

[Jan Il]

Hi Mike

Third-party programs, such as adware, spyware, parasites, Trojans and worms.

Try this: Go to Tools > Internet Options > Advanced > Browsing
Uncheck the Enable 3rd party browser extensions

If this clears your problem then find out who the culprit(s) is/are. Be
aware, your Anti-Virus won't detect all types of warez, Trojans, malware,
worms, etc and neither can other aware or spyware related programs such as
AdAware and SpyBot. They don't have the proper definitions. So even if you
run it and nothing shows up, it does not mean your system is clean. It
takes a series of programs to fully clean your machine. Some very aggressive
and damaging variants of malware can replicate themselves repeatedly, or
mutate, if not removed properly. Follow the steps below::

Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites:
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm

Downloaded -Aware SE and SpyBot S&D from here
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
Install, immediately update and run them in Safe Mode with Hidden Files
enabled

also.....

Download and install HiJackThis. This is one of the most important steps.
Follow all instructions carefully. This program should be run in Normal
mode.

How to download and install HiJackThis: Win 98-XP
http://www.download.com/HijackThis/3000-8022_4-10227353.html

Please.. DO NOT post your log HiJackThis log to this newsgroup. DO NOT
delete anything from the list yourself unless you are an experienced user of
this program. It is important that you go to one of the HiJackThis Support
Forums below and allow the experts there to analyze it for you:
AumHa HiJackThis Forum
http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30
to allow the experts there to evaluate your log and advise you of any
necessary steps to clean your system.
(Note: You will have to Register before posting on these Forums. Please
follow all posting instructions carefully to avoid having your log deleted
or ignored.)

The forums are very busy, please be patient.

Hope this helps.

Jan
MS MVP - Windows IE/OE [DTS/AumHa]
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or other readers.
How to make a good newsgroup post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

Jan, I am using XP, and IE6. The suggestions you had didn't work. It
happens on ALL web pages. Yes, when I click on Open in A New Window, it
does. But, even after applying your suggestions, whenever I click on
Close
(after opening in a new window) IE shuts down instead of going back to the
original page which is what it's supposed to do, and has done in the past.
I
just can't figure out what's going on. Do you have any other suggestions?
--
Mike McDonald

Hi Mike

You don't mention the version of Windows you are using, but, try the
following and see if it helps:

First, go to Tools>Internet Options>Advanced tab>
Reset to the "Default" settings
Do the same thing with the Security settings.

Close IE and reopen. See if that resolves the problem. If so, then you
can
slowly reapply the personal settings that you changed before one by one,
to
see which one, if any, may have caused the problem.

also..

Internet Browsing
http://www.santarosa.k12.fl.us/parents/TechTips.htm

Grayed out Buttons and Menu Items that Don't Work:

It is a convention in many Windows programs and in the popular browsers
to
"gray out" items that currently aren't applicable. So, if you think your
BACK button isn't working, it may be because in that particular instance
it
isn't applicable. For example, if you just opened your browser and this
was
the first page you viewed, then there isn't a page to go back to, so the
BACK button is grayed out.

Is it only a few sites, or all of them? Is the site or page opening in a
new window? Opening in a new widow can disable the Back button. In all
dominant browsers, webmasters using the <a target="_blank"> tag to force
a
link to open in a new window breaks the Back button. The new window does
not retain the browser history of the previous window, so the "Back"
button
is disabled. It does sound as it this might be what is happening on
these
sites.

also.....

Help Getting Back
http://www.soundfeelings.com/free/back.htm

As an additional note.....you should also be aware that webmasters can,
and
many do, set up their website coding to prevent use of the back button,
which will create the Page has Expired situation, and there is nothing
you
can do to correct or prevent this in IE. Once you are sure you have
covered
all avenues on your end to be sure it is not IE related, you can send a
message to the webmaster and ask them to check or remove that part of
their
coding. It is a widely used practice by many webmasters, but,
unfortunately, there seems to be no web policy to prevent this type of
entrapment, so to speak, other than peer pressure that it is not good
form.
Sometimes, it is just that they have not kept up with the changes in XP
or
SP2 that may affect how those users can access or view their website.
It's
just another aspect of the problem many are not aware of.

Hope this helps.

Jan
MS MVP - Windows IE/OE [DTS/AumHa]
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or other
readers.
How to make a good newsgroup post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

Whenever I want to view a new web page by right clicking and going to
Open
In
A New Window, it works fine, but when I want to go back to the original
page
the Back button is, of course, grayed out so I can't use it, so I click
on
the X close button to return to the original page, but it closes IE
altogether. This is a recent development, and I don't know what caused
it.
It used to work fine. What happened? Any suggestions?

 

[Guest]

Jan,
That cured the problem, but now I've lost my Google toolbar, and my RoboForm
toolbar, both of which I had before when everything was working okay, and
both of which have been very useful to me. Can I put them back now?
--
Mike McDonald

Hi Mike

Third-party programs, such as adware, spyware, parasites, Trojans and worms.

Try this: Go to Tools > Internet Options > Advanced > Browsing
Uncheck the Enable 3rd party browser extensions

If this clears your problem then find out who the culprit(s) is/are. Be
aware, your Anti-Virus won't detect all types of warez, Trojans, malware,
worms, etc and neither can other aware or spyware related programs such as
AdAware and SpyBot. They don't have the proper definitions. So even if you
run it and nothing shows up, it does not mean your system is clean. It
takes a series of programs to fully clean your machine. Some very aggressive
and damaging variants of malware can replicate themselves repeatedly, or
mutate, if not removed properly. Follow the steps below::

Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites:
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm

Downloaded -Aware SE and SpyBot S&D from here
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
Install, immediately update and run them in Safe Mode with Hidden Files
enabled

also.....

Download and install HiJackThis. This is one of the most important steps.
Follow all instructions carefully. This program should be run in Normal
mode.

How to download and install HiJackThis: Win 98-XP
http://www.download.com/HijackThis/3000-8022_4-10227353.html

Please.. DO NOT post your log HiJackThis log to this newsgroup. DO NOT
delete anything from the list yourself unless you are an experienced user of
this program. It is important that you go to one of the HiJackThis Support
Forums below and allow the experts there to analyze it for you:
AumHa HiJackThis Forum
http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30
to allow the experts there to evaluate your log and advise you of any
necessary steps to clean your system.
(Note: You will have to Register before posting on these Forums. Please
follow all posting instructions carefully to avoid having your log deleted
or ignored.)

The forums are very busy, please be patient.

Hope this helps.

Jan
MS MVP - Windows IE/OE [DTS/AumHa]
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or other readers.
How to make a good newsgroup post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

Jan, I am using XP, and IE6. The suggestions you had didn't work. It
happens on ALL web pages. Yes, when I click on Open in A New Window, it
does. But, even after applying your suggestions, whenever I click on
Close
(after opening in a new window) IE shuts down instead of going back to the
original page which is what it's supposed to do, and has done in the past.
I
just can't figure out what's going on. Do you have any other suggestions?
--
Mike McDonald

Hi Mike

You don't mention the version of Windows you are using, but, try the
following and see if it helps:

First, go to Tools>Internet Options>Advanced tab>
Reset to the "Default" settings
Do the same thing with the Security settings.

Close IE and reopen. See if that resolves the problem. If so, then you
can
slowly reapply the personal settings that you changed before one by one,
to
see which one, if any, may have caused the problem.

also..

Internet Browsing
http://www.santarosa.k12.fl.us/parents/TechTips.htm

Grayed out Buttons and Menu Items that Don't Work:

It is a convention in many Windows programs and in the popular browsers
to
"gray out" items that currently aren't applicable. So, if you think your
BACK button isn't working, it may be because in that particular instance
it
isn't applicable. For example, if you just opened your browser and this
was
the first page you viewed, then there isn't a page to go back to, so the
BACK button is grayed out.

Is it only a few sites, or all of them? Is the site or page opening in a
new window? Opening in a new widow can disable the Back button. In all
dominant browsers, webmasters using the <a target="_blank"> tag to force
a
link to open in a new window breaks the Back button. The new window does
not retain the browser history of the previous window, so the "Back"
button
is disabled. It does sound as it this might be what is happening on
these
sites.

also.....

Help Getting Back
http://www.soundfeelings.com/free/back.htm

As an additional note.....you should also be aware that webmasters can,
and
many do, set up their website coding to prevent use of the back button,
which will create the Page has Expired situation, and there is nothing
you
can do to correct or prevent this in IE. Once you are sure you have
covered
all avenues on your end to be sure it is not IE related, you can send a
message to the webmaster and ask them to check or remove that part of
their
coding. It is a widely used practice by many webmasters, but,
unfortunately, there seems to be no web policy to prevent this type of
entrapment, so to speak, other than peer pressure that it is not good
form.
Sometimes, it is just that they have not kept up with the changes in XP
or
SP2 that may affect how those users can access or view their website.
It's
just another aspect of the problem many are not aware of.

Hope this helps.

Jan
MS MVP - Windows IE/OE [DTS/AumHa]
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or other
readers.
How to make a good newsgroup post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Whenever I want to view a new web page by right clicking and going to
Open
In
A New Window, it works fine, but when I want to go back to the original
page
the Back button is, of course, grayed out so I can't use it, so I click
on
the X close button to return to the original page, but it closes IE
altogether. This is a recent development, and I don't know what caused
it.
It used to work fine. What happened? Any suggestions?

 

[Jan Il]

Hi Mike ;-)

"> Jan,

That cured the problem, but now I've lost my Google toolbar, and my
RoboForm
toolbar, both of which I had before when everything was working okay, and
both of which have been very useful to me. Can I put them back now?

Did you run all the programs I provided for you? If you posted your
Hijackthis log, would you please post the link to it here? It would be
helpful to see what the results were from the analysis.

If you have not run them yet, and enabling the 3rd party extesions has
seemed to resolve the problem, then your system is definitely infected and
you do need to follow through with the cleaning process.

Hope this helps.

Jan
MS MVP - Windows IE/OE [DTS/AumHa]
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or other readers.
How to make a good newsgroup post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


I would not reinstall the other toolbars and RoboForm just yet.

Hi Mike

Third-party programs, such as adware, spyware, parasites, Trojans and
worms.

Try this: Go to Tools > Internet Options > Advanced > Browsing
Uncheck the Enable 3rd party browser extensions

If this clears your problem then find out who the culprit(s) is/are. Be
aware, your Anti-Virus won't detect all types of warez, Trojans, malware,
worms, etc and neither can other aware or spyware related programs such
as
AdAware and SpyBot. They don't have the proper definitions. So even if
you
run it and nothing shows up, it does not mean your system is clean. It
takes a series of programs to fully clean your machine. Some very
aggressive
and damaging variants of malware can replicate themselves repeatedly, or
mutate, if not removed properly. Follow the steps below::

Dealing with Unwanted Spyware and Parasites:
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm

Downloaded -Aware SE and SpyBot S&D from here
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
Install, immediately update and run them in Safe Mode with Hidden Files
enabled

also.....

Download and install HiJackThis. This is one of the most important steps.
Follow all instructions carefully. This program should be run in Normal
mode.

How to download and install HiJackThis: Win 98-XP
http://www.download.com/HijackThis/3000-8022_4-10227353.html

Please.. DO NOT post your log HiJackThis log to this newsgroup. DO NOT
delete anything from the list yourself unless you are an experienced user
of
this program. It is important that you go to one of the HiJackThis
Support
Forums below and allow the experts there to analyze it for you:
AumHa HiJackThis Forum
http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30
to allow the experts there to evaluate your log and advise you of any
necessary steps to clean your system.
(Note: You will have to Register before posting on these Forums. Please
follow all posting instructions carefully to avoid having your log
deleted
or ignored.)

The forums are very busy, please be patient.

Hope this helps.

Jan
MS MVP - Windows IE/OE [DTS/AumHa]
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or other
readers.
How to make a good newsgroup post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

Jan, I am using XP, and IE6. The suggestions you had didn't work. It
happens on ALL web pages. Yes, when I click on Open in A New Window,
it
does. But, even after applying your suggestions, whenever I click on
Close
(after opening in a new window) IE shuts down instead of going back to
the
original page which is what it's supposed to do, and has done in the
past.
I
just can't figure out what's going on. Do you have any other
suggestions?
--
Mike McDonald


:

Hi Mike

You don't mention the version of Windows you are using, but, try the
following and see if it helps:

First, go to Tools>Internet Options>Advanced tab>
Reset to the "Default" settings
Do the same thing with the Security settings.

Close IE and reopen. See if that resolves the problem. If so, then
you
can
slowly reapply the personal settings that you changed before one by
one,
to
see which one, if any, may have caused the problem.

also..

Internet Browsing
http://www.santarosa.k12.fl.us/parents/TechTips.htm

Grayed out Buttons and Menu Items that Don't Work:

It is a convention in many Windows programs and in the popular
browsers
to
"gray out" items that currently aren't applicable. So, if you think
your
BACK button isn't working, it may be because in that particular
instance
it
isn't applicable. For example, if you just opened your browser and
this
was
the first page you viewed, then there isn't a page to go back to, so
the
BACK button is grayed out.

Is it only a few sites, or all of them? Is the site or page opening
in a
new window? Opening in a new widow can disable the Back button. In
all
dominant browsers, webmasters using the <a target="_blank"> tag to
force
a
link to open in a new window breaks the Back button. The new window
does
not retain the browser history of the previous window, so the "Back"
button
is disabled. It does sound as it this might be what is happening on
these
sites.

also.....

Help Getting Back
http://www.soundfeelings.com/free/back.htm

As an additional note.....you should also be aware that webmasters
can,
and
many do, set up their website coding to prevent use of the back
button,
which will create the Page has Expired situation, and there is nothing
you
can do to correct or prevent this in IE. Once you are sure you have
covered
all avenues on your end to be sure it is not IE related, you can send
a
message to the webmaster and ask them to check or remove that part of
their
coding. It is a widely used practice by many webmasters, but,
unfortunately, there seems to be no web policy to prevent this type of
entrapment, so to speak, other than peer pressure that it is not good
form.
Sometimes, it is just that they have not kept up with the changes in
XP
or
SP2 that may affect how those users can access or view their website.
It's
just another aspect of the problem many are not aware of.

Hope this helps.

Jan
MS MVP - Windows IE/OE [DTS/AumHa]
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or other
readers.
How to make a good newsgroup post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Whenever I want to view a new web page by right clicking and going
to
Open
In
A New Window, it works fine, but when I want to go back to the
original
page
the Back button is, of course, grayed out so I can't use it, so I
click
on
the X close button to return to the original page, but it closes IE
altogether. This is a recent development, and I don't know what
caused
it.
It used to work fine. What happened? Any suggestions?

 

[Robert Aldwinckle]

Hi Mike ;-)

"> Jan,

Did you run all the programs I provided for you? If you posted your
Hijackthis log, would you please post the link to it here? It would be
helpful to see what the results were from the analysis.

If you have not run them yet, and enabling the 3rd party extesions has
seemed to resolve the problem, then your system is definitely infected and
you do need to follow through with the cleaning process.

Or perhaps just uninstall the Google toolbar? <eg>

(I think it has been implicated in this symptom or something similar, before.)


---

 

[Jan Il]

Hey, Robert!

Or perhaps just uninstall the Google toolbar? <eg>

(I think it has been implicated in this symptom or something similar,
before.)

Now......I've never heard of the Google toolbar being blamed for something
of this nature, but, it does not surprise me. <vsg>