Go for it... Upgrade

[GeraldF]

Just upgraded to Vista Premium. System is 1 year old Self Build
with AMD Dual 4200 and ASUS A8N-SLI, Nvidia 7600 X 2, Audigy 2.
(To bad nvidia did not write drivers for the SLI). I did
install on a brand new WD 10,000 RPM drive. It was a snap,
compared to XP on this hardware. I like the way Vista downloads
updates as it reboots during the install.

With the faster drive there is no doubt Vista is much faster
than XP. There will be no going back, only forward from here.
Now to reinstall my other software!!

 

[Justin]

Just upgraded to Vista Premium. System is 1 year old Self Build
with AMD Dual 4200 and ASUS A8N-SLI, Nvidia 7600 X 2, Audigy 2.
(To bad nvidia did not write drivers for the SLI). I did
install on a brand new WD 10,000 RPM drive. It was a snap,
compared to XP on this hardware. I like the way Vista downloads
updates as it reboots during the install.

With the faster drive there is no doubt Vista is much faster
than XP. There will be no going back, only forward from here.
Now to reinstall my other software!!

I'm glad to hear of yet another success!

However, be prepared for the onslaught of trolls such as dans and adam
albright who will call you a liar and attempt to convince you that you are
wrong.

I'm glad you posted your hardware so others can follow in your footsteps.
As a beta tester of the OS it's awesome to hear of people enjoying the
software.

Thanks for your post! I enjoyed reading it and will log your successful
hardware.

 

[Nick Goetz]

I'm glad to hear of yet another success!

However, be prepared for the onslaught of trolls such as dans and adam
albright who will call you a liar and attempt to convince you that you
are wrong.

I'm glad you posted your hardware so others can follow in your
footsteps. As a beta tester of the OS it's awesome to hear of people
enjoying the software.

Thanks for your post! I enjoyed reading it and will log your
successful hardware.

Is this extraordinary... is Gerald one of a small number of pioneers?

Get out the blue pom-poms and change your name to Justine

Nick Goetz

 

[=?Windows-1252?Q?VRG_Scotty=A9?=]

Just upgraded to Vista Premium. System is 1 year old Self Build
with AMD Dual 4200 and ASUS A8N-SLI, Nvidia 7600 X 2, Audigy 2.
(To bad nvidia did not write drivers for the SLI). I did
install on a brand new WD 10,000 RPM drive. It was a snap,
compared to XP on this hardware. I like the way Vista downloads
updates as it reboots during the install.

With the faster drive there is no doubt Vista is much faster
than XP. There will be no going back, only forward from here.
Now to reinstall my other software!!

Agreed, I am also going to Dual Boot with Ubuntu as I like the look of it
and would like to learn more after seeing this

lol the last bit is funny.

Here's my self built system specs
AMD FX-62..Asus Silent Square Pro Cooler...DFI LANPARTY UT
NF590-SLI-M2RG...ENERMAX INFINITI EIN720AWT PSU...2x74gb Raptors (raid
0)...2x320gb Maxtors (raid 1)...2 x Gainward BLISS 8800 GTX (forceware
160.03)...4x1gb Corsair XMS2 CM2X1024-8500C5 CL5...Plextor DVDR
716AL...Pioneer 112 DVDRWDL...Creative X-FI...Vista Ultimate 32bit

 

[DanS]

I'm glad to hear of yet another success!

However, be prepared for the onslaught of trolls such as dans and adam
albright who will call you a liar and attempt to convince you that you
are wrong.

Sorry Charlie, you are the only one I have ever called a liar here.

I have no argument that the OP likes Vista. I also have no argument that
the OP attributted Vista running faster than XP to a HD that is up to %38
faster than the one XP was running on.

 

[Leythos]

I have no argument that the OP likes Vista. I also have no argument that
the OP attributted Vista running faster than XP to a HD that is up to
%38 faster than the one XP was running on.

LOL - Yea, I upgraded to Vist and it's running faster, but, and it's not
significant, I also changed the CPU, Memory, Hard Drives, Case, Case
Fans, Video Card, etc... LOL.

That's what I love about these attackers of performance issues - they
don't, for the most part, test Vista vs. XP on the exact same hardware
before the rant. I have, on 8 machines, different levels of CPU, even
Dual CPU systems - Vista Business vs. XP Prof (same level of products)
and have found Vista to be slower in EVERY case.

Yes, I've seen vista scream on a new machine that was pre-loaded with it,
but I have to wonder how much faster it would have been with XP on it.

--
Leythos
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling
a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
(e-mail address removed) (remove 999 for proper email address)

 

[Guest]

I am with you there, Gerald. I too just upgrade to windows home premium, and
I love it. I also bought myself a new tower, for just the occasion to
upgrade to vista. I love the power and look, and enjoying the experience.
Adding all my other software was a breeze as well. I had a few small
problems, but I found solutions by searching and they are fixed. Like a
problem I had with clicking between users. I had the wrong nvidia driver!

 

[Mike Hall MVP]

Dan

I have two parallel installations here, one XP and one Vista. I always ran
XP in classic mode, mainly for speed. Imagine my surprise when I found that
running Vista with all eye candy was just about as fast.

Vista handles memory better than XP, it recovers from driver glitches better
than XP, it allows my games to run with more detail (and no more crashing
out) than XP. It is easier to use than XP. It looks better than XP. It has
more and better diagnostic features than XP. It is more secure than XP.

As time goes on, patches and the SP1 update will resolve many issues, just
as the process did for XP. Vista can only get better, and soon XP will be
regarded as a poor relation, still capable of course, but old hat.

Come 2009, when the next MS OS appears, Vista will be the best ever, better
than crummy old XP and Win 98, and the troll cycle will start over..

Sorry Charlie, you are the only one I have ever called a liar here.

I have no argument that the OP likes Vista. I also have no argument that
the OP attributted Vista running faster than XP to a HD that is up to %38
faster than the one XP was running on.

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[DanS]

Dan

I have two parallel installations here, one XP and one Vista. I always
ran XP in classic mode, mainly for speed. Imagine my surprise when I
found that running Vista with all eye candy was just about as fast.

Vista handles memory better than XP, it recovers from driver glitches
better than XP, it allows my games to run with more detail (and no
more crashing out) than XP. It is easier to use than XP. It looks
better than XP. It has more and better diagnostic features than XP. It
is more secure than XP.

Great. I'm glad you have a good experience with it. I've never said Vista
never works.

Like all Windows OS's, a lot of performance depends on the PC's
individual hardware and driver combinations. Sometimes for some reason,
all the different hardware device and their respective drivers just seems
'to fit' each other and things run easily and smooth.

Other times, they don't, and it doesn't matter whether it's 'the latest'
drivers for everything, or not that there are blatant problems like
constant BSOD's even, just whatever the hw/driver combination is, it
isn't 'optimal'.

Which leads to whether or not Vista is better at the things listed above,
than XP. You say you suffered from driver glitches, and your games don't
crash anymore. The XP experience I've had has been great and I've almost
never had XP crash requiring hard reset. Just about any BSOD's that
happened were cause by hardware failure, for example, a loose wire on the
CPU fan caused it to stop functioning. Another when I changed the video
card and didn't restart in safe mode.

I've had no security issues really, and in a smoothly running system,
diagnostics aren't as important. Note by diagnostics I mean utilities to
try to solve issue that are being experienced, not programs for
performance monitoring or system maintenance.

I do genuinely believe that some people do have a Vista experience
similar to mine with XP. All can't be great...all can't be bad. It's
usually somewhere in-between.

 

[Adam Albright]

I'm glad to hear of yet another success!

However, be prepared for the onslaught of trolls such as dans and adam
albright who will call you a liar and attempt to convince you that you are
wrong.

Why do idiots like Justin always try to pretend they know more than
others do?

Get a clue you little creep. I haven't had any problems installing or
running Vista I can't easily work around. However Vista is buggy and
the point that zooms over the pointed heads of ignorant fanboys like
you is it shouldn't be and there is no reason for it to be released
buggy. The lame excuse they've always used is hardly any excuse for
sloppy work and even sloppier testing.

The reason Windows' first release is always so buggy is simpleton
little morons like you clap your hands and keep lowering the bar.

Microsoft assumes then that "good enough" is all customers want and
that translates to Microsoft having a license to release software that
is buggy, not fully tested and not ready for prime time because too
many dummies in the public have been brainwashed into accepting this
is how software is suppose behave. Release it, wait for the firestorm
of complaints, then patch it a year later.

So kid, you are part of problem, not part of the solution. Other
software vendors see Microsoft getting away with writing sloppy,
bloated, easily attacked code from hackers and releasing software
before it is ready and they do the same. Again, numbnuts like Justin
that blindly clap their hands and willing are apologists for Microsoft
are a big part of the reason why things are the way they are.

The software industry is in need of some serious regulation by some
government agency. Sloppy coding, bug infested, poorly written,
problematic software causes hundreds of thousands of man hours to be
wasted every year all because the software industry gets away with
murder and is free to release crippled, poorly functioning software
they know when releasing it will cause their customers untold
problems.

Again a simple question. Why should consumers put up with it?

Not surprising Justin never has any real answer.

 

[GeraldF]

Wow, there is no doubt that the visual experience of Ubuntu is amazing. Its
like being on a psychodelic trip. (LSDD as my mom called it in the 60's!!).
Too much for me- I.m over 45. Seems it would be great for gamers and people
who enjoy looking at screens for a reality escape, unfortunately I have to
work for a living. So security and working applications matter the most.

 

[=?Windows-1252?Q?VRG_Scotty=A9?=]

Wow, there is no doubt that the visual experience of Ubuntu is amazing.
Its like being on a psychodelic trip. (LSDD as my mom called it in the
60's!!). Too much for me- I.m over 45. Seems it would be great for gamers
and people who enjoy looking at screens for a reality escape,
unfortunately I have to work for a living. So security and working
applications matter the most.

well i'm best part of 40 yrs...but I still wanna have a pop with linux

 

[DanS]

Wow, there is no doubt that the visual experience of Ubuntu is
amazing. Its like being on a psychodelic trip. (LSDD as my mom called
it in the 60's!!). Too much for me- I.m over 45. Seems it would be
great for gamers and people who enjoy looking at screens for a reality
escape, unfortunately I have to work for a living. So security and
working applications matter the most.

Just one 'D' in LSD.

But I do agree, the eye candy is just that. You turn it on for a couple of
days, then turn it off, because it adds nothing to what you really need to
use the computer for.

 

[Julian]

Just one 'D' in LSD.

But I do agree, the eye candy is just that. You turn it on for a couple of
days, then turn it off, because it adds nothing to what you really need to
use the computer for.

Yes, but a PC is quite a conspicuous piece of furniture
so it might as well look good.

 

[Justin]

See what I mean Gerald?

Why do idiots like Justin always try to pretend they know more than
others do?

I never claimed any such thing. As usual you will have no proof of your
claims.

Get a clue you little creep. I haven't had any problems installing or
running Vista I can't easily work around.

HAHAHAHA!!!! That's why you have MANY POSTS crying about drive issues and
HOW DARE your MB manu. claim Vista compatibility because one tiny little
issue? Sure!

However Vista is buggy and
the point that zooms over the pointed heads of ignorant fanboys like
you is it shouldn't be and there is no reason for it to be released
buggy.

Oh really? Then why is linux release just as buggy? Why is OSX released
just as buggy?

Vista - UAC sucks.
OSX - The first implementation of AD was horrible and completely unusable
yet Apple claimed is was going to revolution their OS to be more adoptable
to windows networks. Wrong!

Go ahead wuttle adum, keep talking out of your rear.

The reason Windows' first release is always so buggy is simpleton
little morons like you clap your hands and keep lowering the bar.

Nope, many reported bugs didn't get fixed. Note the word reported. You are
clueless.

So kid, you are part of problem, not part of the solution.

....and you're the solution? Hahahaha!!!!

Again a simple question. Why should consumers put up with it?

Proper implementations don't have anything to "put up with".

Not surprising Justin never has any real answer.

You never asked. The first time you did you got an answer. See how that
works? Can you follow that?

 

[Justin]

Is this extraordinary... is Gerald one of a small number of pioneers?

Get out the blue pom-poms and change your name to Justine

Oops, I forgot a troll. My bad.

 

[Justin]

well i'm best part of 40 yrs...but I still wanna have a pop with linux

You can also run Ubuntu in a VM from within Vista instead of having to
reboot all the time.

www.vistareadygames.com - nice site, thanks!

 

[Justin]

Great. I'm glad you have a good experience with it. I've never said Vista
never works.

Neither did they. The claim that Vista runs equal or BETTER then XP on same
hardware is what was discussed. The same thing that you attempted to call
me on.

So now you are capable of believing someone when they tell you Vista with
eye candy is at least the same speed as XP Classic? So what changed?

Which leads to whether or not Vista is better at the things listed above,
than XP.

This is where it starts.

You say you suffered from driver glitches, and your games don't
crash anymore. The XP experience I've had has been great and I've almost
never had XP crash requiring hard reset. Just about any BSOD's that
happened were cause by hardware failure, for example, a loose wire on the
CPU fan caused it to stop functioning. Another when I changed the video
card and didn't restart in safe mode.

I've had no security issues really, and in a smoothly running system,
diagnostics aren't as important. Note by diagnostics I mean utilities to
try to solve issue that are being experienced, not programs for
performance monitoring or system maintenance.

Here are all his INDIVIDUALIZED excuses as to why Vista is not better then
XP.

I do genuinely believe that some people do have a Vista experience
similar to mine with XP. All can't be great...all can't be bad. It's
usually somewhere in-between.

You didn't genuinely believe mine. Of EVERYTHING I stated you focus on ONE
and battled it. Do you care to go back and be genuine about the rest of it?

 

[Dale K]

Well Said!! Vista is COOL!!

nntp://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.vista.general/<[email protected]>

Just one 'D' in LSD.

But I do agree, the eye candy is just that. You turn it on for a couple of
days, then turn it off, because it adds nothing to what you really need to
use the computer for.

Yes, but a PC is quite a conspicuous piece of furniture
so it might as well look good.


[microsoft.public.windows.vista.general]

 

[DanS]

Neither did they. The claim that Vista runs equal or BETTER then XP
on same hardware is what was discussed. The same thing that you
attempted to call me on.

IIRC, that was much more me proving my XP system didn't have problems
running high CPU usage apps than anything else.

And also IIRC, you have NEVER stated to me anything about Vista & XP
running _equally_. It was always 'Vista is faster than XP'.

The OP that started this thread attributed his Vista performance to a much
faster hardrive that Vista was installed on, which XP never touched.....

'With the faster drive there is no doubt Vista is much faster than XP.'

This is undoubtably not the same hardware.