frontpage vs dreamweaver

[Guest]

I want to takes a class in either dreamweaver or frontpage. WHich is the best
for me. (A beginner)

Gary

 

[Tom [Pepper] Willett]

What a question to ask in a Microsoft FrontPage newsgroup ;-)

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

Will you buy DW or FP? Take a class for the program you own or will buy.
Download trials and mess with them first.

How much money is in your budget?
How much time are you going to put into learning either one?
What's your ultimate goal?
Have you read any books yet?
Have you taken a Photoshop class yet?

How could anyone really answer this for you?




|I want to takes a class in either dreamweaver or frontpage. WHich is the
best
| for me. (A beginner)
|
| Gary

 

[Murray]

How much HTML do you know? If none, then you will waste your money on
either class. And in that case, it doesn't matter....

 

[Steve Easton]

<imho>
The best bang for the buck is FrontPage.
However, you need to learn html, CSS and javascript before you will be able
to "effectively" use either one.
If you're looking for a "push button" create a website program, what you're
looking for doesn't exist.
</imho>

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer

 

[Jim Carlock]

"gary" pondered:

I want to takes a class in either dreamweaver or frontpage.
Which is the best for me. (A beginner)

FrontPage doesn't require a class so much as the rest of the
Internet does. It's a software application that connects to a server
and uploads files to the server and taking a class in FrontPage
might not be as profitable as classes in HTML, FTP, SMTP
and POP3, along with a server-side language of your choice (like
PHP or IIS Version 5 or ColdFusion or PERL). Welcome to the
Internet.

Perhaps someone knows if DreamWeaver is a similar client for
publishing websites, and if it requires server-side extensions like
FrontPage requires.

Check out http://www.w3schools.com for some free (and very
excellent) online tutorials about the Internet.

Jim Carlock
Post replies to the newsgroup.

 

[Tina Clarke]

I want to takes a class in either dreamweaver or frontpage. WHich is the best
for me. (A beginner)

Gary

If it's anything like the class I took (just to see what they taught at my
local college)

They will teach you bad habits...

Your better getting a trial .. trying them out, if it depends on your budget
then FP is the one for you. If you really don't have much money get an older
version 2002 at ebay.

Join Forums and lists and haunt the newsgroup ...
http://accessfp.net/fplists.htm

Use the Help in FrontPage

Get books from the library

just ask for help.

Tina

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http://addonfp.com/ - FrontPage Addons
http://frontpage-tips.com/ - Weekly FrontPage Tips
http://msmvps.com/blogs/frontpage/ - FrontPage News Blog
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[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

A POP3 class?


| "gary" pondered:
| > I want to takes a class in either dreamweaver or frontpage.
| > Which is the best for me. (A beginner)
|
| FrontPage doesn't require a class so much as the rest of the
| Internet does. It's a software application that connects to a server
| and uploads files to the server and taking a class in FrontPage
| might not be as profitable as classes in HTML, FTP, SMTP
| and POP3, along with a server-side language of your choice (like
| PHP or IIS Version 5 or ColdFusion or PERL). Welcome to the
| Internet.
|
| Perhaps someone knows if DreamWeaver is a similar client for
| publishing websites, and if it requires server-side extensions like
| FrontPage requires.
|
| Check out http://www.w3schools.com for some free (and very
| excellent) online tutorials about the Internet.
|
| Jim Carlock
| Post replies to the newsgroup.
|
|

 

[JIMCO Software]

A POP3 class?

A server-side language like IIS version 5?

 

[Andrew Murray]

A POP3 class?


| "gary" pondered:
| > I want to takes a class in either dreamweaver or frontpage.
| > Which is the best for me. (A beginner)
|
| FrontPage doesn't require a class so much as the rest of the
| Internet does. It's a software application that connects to a server
| and uploads files to the server and taking a class in FrontPage
| might not be as profitable as classes in HTML, FTP, SMTP
| and POP3, along with a server-side language of your choice (like
| PHP or IIS Version 5 or ColdFusion or PERL). Welcome to the
| Internet.
|
| Perhaps someone knows if DreamWeaver is a similar client for
| publishing websites, and if it requires server-side extensions like
| FrontPage requires.
|
| Check out http://www.w3schools.com for some free (and very
| excellent) online tutorials about the Internet.
|
| Jim Carlock
| Post replies to the newsgroup.
|
|

Dreamweaver does not have any equivalent of Frontpage's server extensions,
it utilises whatever server side scripting language that the server
supports for which the site is being built for.

It has a built in FTP mode to publish sites, and has an extensive db
application development capability - more so than Frontpage.

 

[terry]

For FrontPage try this.... FREE!!
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/training/CR061832701033.aspx
For Dreamweaver this might help...
http://www.dwfaq.com/
http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/

I strongly recommend that you learn some HTML first. It will make using
either much easier.

T
|I want to takes a class in either dreamweaver or frontpage. WHich is the
best
| for me. (A beginner)
|
| Gary

 

[P@tty Ayers]

Perhaps someone knows if DreamWeaver is a similar client for
publishing websites, and if it requires server-side extensions like
FrontPage requires.

No, Dreamweaver doesn't use server extensions like FrontPage's, and yes, it
includes an FTP function for uploading your files.

 

[Joe Rohn]

No, Dreamweaver doesn't use server extensions like FrontPage's, and yes,
it includes an FTP function for uploading your files.

I haven't used DW in a long time..so I don't know about the current ftp
function that it uses. Is there any enhancements to that client or is that
part basically straight ftp? I always felt that one of the biggest
advantages of FP (by using the extensions) Was the total site management
capabilities via http publishing. It was much more powerful and
comprehensive than using ftp.

Although FP can be used with ftp as well, it's just not the same!

--
Joe

Microsoft MVP FrontPage

FrontPage Users Forums:
http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage

 

[P@tty Ayers]

I haven't used DW in a long time..so I don't know about the current ftp
function that it uses. Is there any enhancements to that client or is that
part basically straight ftp? I always felt that one of the biggest
advantages of FP (by using the extensions) Was the total site management
capabilities via http publishing. It was much more powerful and
comprehensive than using ftp.

Dreamweaver's FTP is pretty handy; it has a full set of site-management
tools as well. In fact, that's what I would consider the single most useful
thing Dreamweaver does, to manage site files. I'd be lost without it.

 

[JIMCO Software]

Dreamweaver's FTP is pretty handy; it has a full set of
site-management tools as well. In fact, that's what I would consider
the single most useful thing Dreamweaver does, to manage site files.
I'd be lost without it.

I do like Dreamweaver's site management feature. However, it has one nasty
"feature" in DW8. They have made file transfer asynchronous so that it
operates in the background. That means that if you select some files and
then PUT them to the server, if you select different files while that
process is going on, it will actually PUT the wrong files on the remote box!
I'm surprised they haven't fixed this yet.

--
Jim Cheshire
JIMCO Software
http://www.jimcosoftware.com
===============================
Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/jamesche

 

[Murray]

Jim:

I am not sure about this. As far as I can tell, DW8 does NOT do that. Once
you spawn an upload process, you cannot do *anything* that would cause you
to interact with the server, so while that upload is happening, I can
select, open, modify, and save other files. Have you seen different
behavior?

 

[P@tty Ayers]

That's my experience, too, Murray.

 

[JIMCO Software]

Jim:

I am not sure about this. As far as I can tell, DW8 does NOT do
that. Once you spawn an upload process, you cannot do *anything*
that would cause you to interact with the server, so while that
upload is happening, I can select, open, modify, and save other
files. Have you seen different behavior?

I have, but your and Patty's comments are encouraging to me. It's quite
possibly user error somewhere. I'll have to try it again.

--
Jim Cheshire
JIMCO Software
http://www.jimcosoftware.com
===============================
Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/jamesche

 

[Murray]

Let us know, please....

 

[Brett...]

Try them both and see how you get on. If you are a student the Dreamweaver
Studio may work out cheaper than FP so the usual cost differences may not
apply.