FrontPage extensions on an Apache server

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Thomas A. Rowe said:
If the remote server has the FP extensions and you want to use features and functions that require
them, then you can not use FTP to upload. Also the when the remote server has the FP extensions, you
can work on the remote site directly from within FP, which is not possible
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via FTP.

Okay, folks ... thaks to all the help I have been having in this thread
today and also the help from the help desk at the service provider, I now
can publish via http and am in the process of 'converting' all of my
websites over to this setup.

One thing that I have noticed though.

I had a Perl-based hit counter on a couple of pages which was called by
<!--#exec cgi="/cgi-bin/c4.pl" --> where the count was stored in a .count
file, blah, blah, blah ...

Thing is, after I re-uploaded all the pages using http -- changing nothing
in the code and not modifying the permissions on the .pl and .count files --
the old counter stopped working.

Did the changeover do this somehow? IOW, would my CGI scripts now cease
working because I am using FP Extensions?

That would not be good.
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Wayne Moses
MS FrontPage 2003
MS Windows XP Home
Apache Server on RedHat Linux
 
No.

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Does that theory apply to a subweb of a site that does use FP Publish? In other words if I used
Publish on the main site (with exts being utilized)...then used FTP ONLY on a subweb of the same
site are we likely to break the exts on the main site?


| You can have one site on a server that has extensions and use http:// to
| publish, and another site on another server
| without extensions and use ftp:// to publish.
| Just because one "remote" server has extensions installed, does not affect
| the webs that do not have or use them.
|
|
| --
| Steve Easton
| Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| 95isalive
| This site is best viewed............
| .......................with a computer
|
| | >
| > | >
| > > Well, you can't use FTP to a server with the FP extensions and make the
| > > components work. You *must* use http publish. So, ftping explains why
| > your
| > > components don't work.
| >
| > I had a feeling that this could be the problem ....
| >
| > > By now, ftping has corrupted the extensions. You'll need to contact
| your
| > > host to repair them or to reinstall them.
| >
| > I can resinstall them myself through my CPanel, but point taken. They need
| > to be reinstalled even if it restets my .htaccecss files.
| >
| > This now brings me to another couple of questions.
| >
| > Up to now I have been using FTP in FP2003 to upload all my sites.
| >
| > If I reinstall the FPSE on my server and am successful with my little web
| > site (the one I posted the URL to) by uploading via 'http://...', what
| > happens when I go to update the other websites? Will updating them via FTP
| > corrupt the FPSE again?
| >
| > Should I also re-configure all these other sites to use 'http://' uploads
| so
| > that the FPSE is not corrupted by any FTPing anywhere?
| >
| > > You also need to ask them what
| > > password information is required to use the extensions. Not necesarily
| > the
| > > same as your FTP password.
| >
| > Okay ... good point.
| >
| > Thanks,
| > --
| >
| > Wayne Moses
| > MS FrontPage 2003
| > MS Windows XP Home
| > Apache Server on RedHat Linux
| >
| >
|
|
 
CGI-Perl files under Unix/Linux must be uploaded via FTP.
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Thomas A. Rowe said:
CGI-Perl files under Unix/Linux must be uploaded via FTP.
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And they will still work right? IOW, there would not be a conflict with the
FP Extensions?

Also, I guess I will have to use a separate FTP program (i.e. not upload
with FP) to upload these again? That should not corrupt the FP Extensions,
right?
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Wayne Moses
MS FrontPage 2003
MS Windows XP Home
Apache Server on RedHat Linux
 
Correct, just upload these individual files to the CGI-Bin directory, which really shouldn't be in
your web space.

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Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
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==============================================
 
Thomas A. Rowe said:
Correct, just upload these individual files to the CGI-Bin directory, which really shouldn't be in
your web space.
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Thanks. Since posting my question I went ahead and did it on my own and now
my counters work. Got to make sure the upload is ASCII and the permissions
are set to 755 and it works.
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Wayne Moses
MS FrontPage 2003
MS Windows XP Home
Apache Server on RedHat Linux
 
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