FrontPage 2k gives 550: Permission denied error after installing Gallery photo program

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FrankC

I just installed a WONDERFUL photo gallery program, Gallery
(gallery.menalto.com), and uploaded a number of photos to it.

It added two subdirs under my host's www subdirectory (public
files)--albums and gallery--so in FP2k I created those folders and
converted them to webs so FP wouldn't fiddle with them (they do have an
..htaccess file in them).

Then I changed some pages on the website and, when trying to publish,
got a

550: Permission denied

error.

Anyone have any experience with FP and Gallery? Thanks!
 
Do you mean a Subweb or Subdirectory? Maybe you don't have permissions for a subweb set up?


| I just installed a WONDERFUL photo gallery program, Gallery
| (gallery.menalto.com), and uploaded a number of photos to it.
|
| It added two subdirs under my host's www subdirectory (public
| files)--albums and gallery--so in FP2k I created those folders and
| converted them to webs so FP wouldn't fiddle with them (they do have an
| .htaccess file in them).
|
| Then I changed some pages on the website and, when trying to publish,
| got a
|
| 550: Permission denied
|
| error.
|
| Anyone have any experience with FP and Gallery? Thanks!
|
|
 
message Do you mean a Subweb or Subdirectory? Maybe you don't have permissions
for a subweb set up?


Mea culpa, using FP2002, not 2k. It's a busy, mind-boggling day here.

Let me add that this is a *nix-based host I've been using for 5 years
with no FP problems. I'd published this website just a few hours before
installing Gallery.

Permissions for albums and gallery subdirs are 755, same as FP's images
subdir.
 
A 550 error almost always indicates a permissions setting conflict on the
server.
Check with your host.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
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Steve Easton said:
A 550 error almost always indicates a permissions setting conflict on the
server.
Click to expand...

I'd agree, but the only change was the installation of Gallery. The two
subdirs it needs at the webhost were both added there, and as subwebs
into FP to keep it out. I can't figure out where the changed
permissions would be needed.
 
Steve knows more about this than I do. But, I wanna see Gallery work! I'd been looking at this gallery for my sites as well.

I'll be watchin' - lemme know when you have it up and going so I can pick your brains :-)

Robo


| | > A 550 error almost always indicates a permissions setting conflict on
| the
| > server.
|
| I'd agree, but the only change was the installation of Gallery. The two
| subdirs it needs at the webhost were both added there, and as subwebs
| into FP to keep it out. I can't figure out where the changed
| permissions would be needed.
|
|
 
The thing that concerns me is the .htaccess files that you mention in the
subdirectories converted to webs.
By default, on a UNIX server, they will always pop a password panel when ever
"anything" tries to access the subwebs.

I honestly think this is the problem. Also, why did you create subwebs??

And also, have you tried the Gallery folks for help with this??


--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed..................
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Steve Easton said:
The thing that concerns me is the .htaccess files that you mention in the
subdirectories converted to webs.
By default, on a UNIX server, they will always pop a password panel when ever
"anything" tries to access the subwebs.
Click to expand...

Does FP try to access subwebs on the server? I would think it should
not. You can't set "Do not publish" for folders in FP2002.
I honestly think this is the problem. Also, why did you create
Click to expand...
subwebs??

How else do you tell FP to keep out of a subdirectory created for/by
another program? If there's dynamic content in there, as there is for
Gallery, you don't want FP fiddledicking with it. Same thing with some
non-FP-extension BBSes, calendar programs, etc.

See http://LazarusHouseOnline.com/gallery/ to see the program in action.
And also, have you tried the Gallery folks for help with this??
Click to expand...

Yes, last evening...no response yet. I'll advise here if I do. This
problem is plaguing two websites of mine, now.
 
Jimco has a add-in for FP that will allow you to not publish whole directories.




|
| | > The thing that concerns me is the .htaccess files that you mention in
| the
| > subdirectories converted to webs.
| > By default, on a UNIX server, they will always pop a password panel
| when ever
| > "anything" tries to access the subwebs.
|
| Does FP try to access subwebs on the server? I would think it should
| not. You can't set "Do not publish" for folders in FP2002.
|
| > I honestly think this is the problem. Also, why did you create
| subwebs??
|
| How else do you tell FP to keep out of a subdirectory created for/by
| another program? If there's dynamic content in there, as there is for
| Gallery, you don't want FP fiddledicking with it. Same thing with some
| non-FP-extension BBSes, calendar programs, etc.
|
| See http://LazarusHouseOnline.com/gallery/ to see the program in action.
|
| > And also, have you tried the Gallery folks for help with this??
|
| Yes, last evening...no response yet. I'll advise here if I do. This
| problem is plaguing two websites of mine, now.
|
|
 
Now I'm even more confused and please correct me if I missed something.
The subwebs were created to contain the gallery content.
Therefore they have to be published to get the content to the server.

And even if you created them live, if the subwebs contain an .htaccess file
the server will not serve any content from them because on a UNIX server an
..htaccess file is a default file that overrides any other file in a folder
or subweb.
So, for example, if the Gallery is calling for an image or html file
contained in the subweb, if the server sees the .htaccess file it will
automatically either:
1. present a password panel or
2. Refuse to serve any files and throw a 550 denied error.



--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer
 
Come to think of it, the .htaccess could also be there to prevent "Hot
linking."
In that case it could just be a scripting error in the .htaccess file.
You can open it and read it with notepad, or by using the Web masters
control panel edit function.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer
 
Check w/ your host on your server space limits
- you can get a 550 permissions error if you exceed your allowed space

--




| | > A 550 error almost always indicates a permissions setting conflict on
| the
| > server.
|
| I'd agree, but the only change was the installation of Gallery. The two
| subdirs it needs at the webhost were both added there, and as subwebs
| into FP to keep it out. I can't figure out where the changed
| permissions would be needed.
|
|
 
Crash Gordon® said:
Jimco has a add-in for FP that will allow you to not publish whole
Click to expand...
directories.

Ah-HA! Thanks--didn't have that one! We'll see if that makes any
difference.
 
Steve Easton said:
Now I'm even more confused and please correct me if I missed
something.
The subwebs were created to contain the gallery content.
Therefore they have to be published to get the content to the server.
Click to expand...

Ah, I see your confusion. I use FTP and SSH to install and manage
external scripts. FP is set to NOT publish the subwebs; they're set up
in FP just to tell FP "hands off".
And even if you created them live, if the subwebs contain an .htaccess
file
the server will not serve any content from them because on a UNIX
server an
.htaccess file is a default file that overrides any other file in a
folder
or subweb.
Click to expand...

If you have a subweb in FP and tell FP not to publish subwebs, does FP
still peek in that subdir on the server? If so, then that's the source
of the problem--it's not the behavior I'd expected.
 
Stefan B Rusynko said:
Check w/ your host on your server space limits
- you can get a 550 permissions error if you exceed your allowed space
Click to expand...

Good thought...I just checked and there's more than enough space
available yet, though. The quest continues...
 
FrankC said:
directories.

Ah-HA! Thanks--didn't have that one! We'll see if that makes any
difference.
Click to expand...

The subwebs came up with red "x"s on them. Still, I converted them back
to folders and then used the SelPub addin to set the folders to not
publish. Same 550 error.
 
And even if you created them live, if the subwebs contain an .htaccess file
the server will not serve any content from them because on a UNIX server an
.htaccess file is a default file that overrides any other file in a folder
or subweb.
Click to expand...

There was only one .htaccess file, in the gallery subdirectory on the
webhost. I renamed the .htaccess file, no change--still a 550 error.

Dang, I'd hate to have to remove Gallery but if that's what it's going
to take...
 
Have you checked the error logs for your site to see if it gives a clue.
There should be one available in your web masters control panel.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed..................
...............................with a computer
 
As Ross would say, "Ok, now here's the deal."

Even with "do not publish subwebs" enabled (where, I've forgotten now),
FrontPage 2002 fiddles inside subwebs.

I received this from my webhost today: There is a "...550 error from
today's logs....It appears that FrontPage tried to cd into
gallery/setup, which had its permissions changed to 000, which is
required for gallery to run properly."

So there we have it. Copying the files from within Gallery back to my
PC is nuts as the contents are dynamic, and photos in them are uploaded
via Gallery's interface or Gallery Remote by myself or others to whom
I've given rights to do so.

That's VERY frustrating.

Frank
 
You (or your host) need to convert your Gallery folder into a FP subweb so FP leaves it alone
Anytime you have another program accessing a FP web, it should be is a unique subweb

--




| As Ross would say, "Ok, now here's the deal."
|
| Even with "do not publish subwebs" enabled (where, I've forgotten now),
| FrontPage 2002 fiddles inside subwebs.
|
| I received this from my webhost today: There is a "...550 error from
| today's logs....It appears that FrontPage tried to cd into
| gallery/setup, which had its permissions changed to 000, which is
| required for gallery to run properly."
|
| So there we have it. Copying the files from within Gallery back to my
| PC is nuts as the contents are dynamic, and photos in them are uploaded
| via Gallery's interface or Gallery Remote by myself or others to whom
| I've given rights to do so.
|
| That's VERY frustrating.
|
| Frank
|
| | > I just installed a WONDERFUL photo gallery program, Gallery
| > (gallery.menalto.com), and uploaded a number of photos to it.
| >
| > It added two subdirs under my host's www subdirectory (public
| > files)--albums and gallery--so in FP2k I created those folders and
| > converted them to webs so FP wouldn't fiddle with them (they do have
| an
| > .htaccess file in them).
| >
| > Then I changed some pages on the website and, when trying to publish,
| > got a
| >
| > 550: Permission denied
| >
| > error.
| >
| > Anyone have any experience with FP and Gallery? Thanks!
|
|
 
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